Ice-cream in middle school cafeteria

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools should just stop serving food. They do such a terrible job. And the kids in poverty of the most likely to be overweight, yet the school just piles on with more processed garbage food. Schools should keep selection heathy and minimal: white milk, cold cuts, cheese, peanut/sun butter on wheat, fresh fruits/vegtables. That’s it. Kids whose parents won’t/can’t send a lunch will have something to eat. Everyone that wants something else brings it from home.

This is a good idea and what our kids' Montessori did. Kids were supposed to bring lunch daily. If they didn't, the options were bread, cheese, hummus, peanut/Sun butter, fruits, veggies and milk. Very simple and pretty nutritious.

[Anonymous]

Honestly I wish we could have a greenhouse for each school and have students grow their own foods. Guaranteed they will eat it if they put the work into it. When I was a student teacher in DC they had a great program that brought in an outside group to help teach kids to grow and prepare fresh foods from a garden. I was there when they harvested the kale they grew in the school garden. A whole room full of 3rd graders ate a fresh kale salad and actually liked it! NYC a while back had a school with an indoor greenhouse that students maintained and then stocked the cafeteria salad bar with. Granted it won’t solve all the problems but it would be awesome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There should be no sugar or junk food in American schools. Policy makers, when are you going to stop this nonsense? Just ban the stuff.

Nope.

Why do your kids need sugary processed stuff at school? Why can't you provide those foods at home instead? As an immigrant, I'm pretty aghast at the quality of food served in schools. It's no wonder that the rates of heart disease, diabetes are so high when the message is sent from a young age that these foods are so freely available and considered part of a normal diet.

Ice cream will continue to be sold in schools, no matter how much you whine and foot stomp. Cope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, these responses are shocking to me. Of course there shouldn’t be ice cream available in a school. I bet these are all liberals who think there should be gun control but ice cream is “individual” choice and “teach your kid to do the right thing.”

I teach in DCPS. There are a million things wrong with DCPS but at least ice cream and vending machines selling junk aren’t around.

Thank you. What an idiotic failed attempt at a comparison.

I don’t understand. conservatives cannot distinguish between harm or ice cream and guns? Harmful effects of ice cream only affect the kid choosing to eat it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, these responses are shocking to me. Of course there shouldn’t be ice cream available in a school. I bet these are all liberals who think there should be gun control but ice cream is “individual” choice and “teach your kid to do the right thing.”

I teach in DCPS. There are a million things wrong with DCPS but at least ice cream and vending machines selling junk aren’t around.

You have a very peculiar way of thinking.

You sound like you are usually wrong but rarely in doubt.

Your views on this aren’t valid, full stop.

Neither are yours. And you stupidly saying “full stop” doesn’t make them so.

DP

Oh, honey. Bless your heart. My views are not only valid, they are correct.

PP’s invalid opinions simply shouldn’t be expressed. She embarrasses herself.

I’m thinking yours shouldn’t be either. Away with you…

No, honey, they are not correct. And I’m not going anywhere. You aren’t the board monitor, fool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be no sugar or junk food in American schools. Policy makers, when are you going to stop this nonsense? Just ban the stuff.

Nope.

Why do your kids need sugary processed stuff at school? Why can't you provide those foods at home instead? As an immigrant, I'm pretty aghast at the quality of food served in schools. It's no wonder that the rates of heart disease, diabetes are so high when the message is sent from a young age that these foods are so freely available and considered part of a normal diet.

It is available at school and will continue to be so. If my kid were in that school, I’d allow them to buy it once a week if they wanted to, on Friday. It’s called parenting. Try it sometime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s how I know OP’s reaction is based on pure emotion and anxiety, not reason.

If you have this big a problem with tiny containers of low fat, fairly low sugar ice cream being available, you should be ready to call 911 over the availability of pizza, hamburgers, chicken tenders, peanut butter and jelly, chicken and waffles, and French toast sticks, Cinnamon rolls, and chicken biscuits.Some of those higher calorie entrees might actually make a kid gain too much weight if eaten every day.

The ice cream is not the problem.

Exactly. If I was concerned about my kid eating too much ice cream one conversation reminding them about moderation would solve this problem.

LOL- you think you solved the problem, they tell you yes and just sneak behind your back!

My kids don’t have to sneak ice cream or snacks because they aren’t forbidden. Therefore, they understand moderation. They also know I’m not going to track them down about a small portion of ice cream at lunch, particular if they are eating other well balance things with it. See how that works. Teach kids proper things from a young age, give them freedom to maneuver and make mistakes and great relationships.

This exactly. Laughing my head off at the idiotic PP with the “lol” emoji.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid some self control. Just because your kid can’t control themselves doesn’t mean you get to dictate what others can do n

Let’s allow selling cigarettes and alcohol to kids. After all, not teaching them to recognize what is bad for them is shitty parenting. Just because your kid can’t control themselves doesn’t mean you get to dictate what others can do.

PS. Did you know sugar is more addictive than cocaine? Kids that are ‘hooked’ on sugar are likely to make unhealthy food choices.

Please grow up. Your hysteria is so unflattering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s how I know OP’s reaction is based on pure emotion and anxiety, not reason.

If you have this big a problem with tiny containers of low fat, fairly low sugar ice cream being available, you should be ready to call 911 over the availability of pizza, hamburgers, chicken tenders, peanut butter and jelly, chicken and waffles, and French toast sticks, Cinnamon rolls, and chicken biscuits.Some of those higher calorie entrees might actually make a kid gain too much weight if eaten every day.

The ice cream is not the problem.

Exactly. If I was concerned about my kid eating too much ice cream one conversation reminding them about moderation would solve this problem.

LOL- you think you solved the problem, they tell you yes and just sneak behind your back!

My kids don’t have to sneak ice cream or snacks because they aren’t forbidden. Therefore, they understand moderation. They also know I’m not going to track them down about a small portion of ice cream at lunch, particular if they are eating other well balance things with it. See how that works. Teach kids proper things from a young age, give them freedom to maneuver and make mistakes and great relationships.

+1. DP.

When my kids were young (like early ES), we used to restrict how many times per week, they could have desserts and sweets. It was never forbidden, but we just talked about having sweets and desserts only sometimes. They had choices about when during the week they wanted sweets. So, if we knew we woudl be going out for dinner, we would ask if they wanted to wait for the day we went out or if they wanted it tonight and things like that. They learned to pick and choose when to have sweets. By the time they got to upper elementary, we stopped doing that and they learned to self-regulate.

We also talk about a healthy life style and if they are going to have more sweets (like near Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, birthday), then we need to increase the physical activity. So, we talk about less screen time and more outdoor time if/when they are eating more desserts and sweets.

Rather than regulating for them, we teach them how to regulate for themselves. If you eat more junk, you need to exercise more. If you eat less junk, you can exercise less and do more sedentary things in your spare time. The whole, teach a man to fish theory.

That sounds really restrictive. IME if you let them eat what they want they learn to make good choices. Restricting sweets to only a couple times per week will make them crave it more and binge when you do give it to them.

You can postulate all you want, but our practice of talking to them about making choices accomplished what we wanted. The children are middle schoolers now and are probably 5 years past when we used to talk about choosing when to have desserts. They don't have a lot of sweets or desserts. They still have desserts and sweets like every other day at most and they are healthy weights and fit. Your suggestion hat restricting sweets would make them crave it could not be further from the truth. We talked about how often they had treats and sweets and included them in the choices. We taught them how to make healthy choices, not by restricting them from having them, but in choosing how often and when to have them.

They neither crave it more nor binge it. So your armchair psychological assessment is pretty wrong.

You actually may not know because these kids are good at sneaking behind your back. But keep your head in the sand!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s how I know OP’s reaction is based on pure emotion and anxiety, not reason.

If you have this big a problem with tiny containers of low fat, fairly low sugar ice cream being available, you should be ready to call 911 over the availability of pizza, hamburgers, chicken tenders, peanut butter and jelly, chicken and waffles, and French toast sticks, Cinnamon rolls, and chicken biscuits.Some of those higher calorie entrees might actually make a kid gain too much weight if eaten every day.

The ice cream is not the problem.

Exactly. If I was concerned about my kid eating too much ice cream one conversation reminding them about moderation would solve this problem.

LOL- you think you solved the problem, they tell you yes and just sneak behind your back!

My kids don’t have to sneak ice cream or snacks because they aren’t forbidden. Therefore, they understand moderation. They also know I’m not going to track them down about a small portion of ice cream at lunch, particular if they are eating other well balance things with it. See how that works. Teach kids proper things from a young age, give them freedom to maneuver and make mistakes and great relationships.

+1. DP.

When my kids were young (like early ES), we used to restrict how many times per week, they could have desserts and sweets. It was never forbidden, but we just talked about having sweets and desserts only sometimes. They had choices about when during the week they wanted sweets. So, if we knew we woudl be going out for dinner, we would ask if they wanted to wait for the day we went out or if they wanted it tonight and things like that. They learned to pick and choose when to have sweets. By the time they got to upper elementary, we stopped doing that and they learned to self-regulate.

We also talk about a healthy life style and if they are going to have more sweets (like near Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, birthday), then we need to increase the physical activity. So, we talk about less screen time and more outdoor time if/when they are eating more desserts and sweets.

Rather than regulating for them, we teach them how to regulate for themselves. If you eat more junk, you need to exercise more. If you eat less junk, you can exercise less and do more sedentary things in your spare time. The whole, teach a man to fish theory.

That sounds really restrictive. IME if you let them eat what they want they learn to make good choices. Restricting sweets to only a couple times per week will make them crave it more and binge when you do give it to them.

You can postulate all you want, but our practice of talking to them about making choices accomplished what we wanted. The children are middle schoolers now and are probably 5 years past when we used to talk about choosing when to have desserts. They don't have a lot of sweets or desserts. They still have desserts and sweets like every other day at most and they are healthy weights and fit. Your suggestion hat restricting sweets would make them crave it could not be further from the truth. We talked about how often they had treats and sweets and included them in the choices. We taught them how to make healthy choices, not by restricting them from having them, but in choosing how often and when to have them.

They neither crave it more nor binge it. So your armchair psychological assessment is pretty wrong.

You actually may not know because these kids are good at sneaking behind your back. But keep your head in the sand!

Perhaps your children lack integrity but I raised mine to be honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s how I know OP’s reaction is based on pure emotion and anxiety, not reason.

If you have this big a problem with tiny containers of low fat, fairly low sugar ice cream being available, you should be ready to call 911 over the availability of pizza, hamburgers, chicken tenders, peanut butter and jelly, chicken and waffles, and French toast sticks, Cinnamon rolls, and chicken biscuits.Some of those higher calorie entrees might actually make a kid gain too much weight if eaten every day.

The ice cream is not the problem.

Exactly. If I was concerned about my kid eating too much ice cream one conversation reminding them about moderation would solve this problem.

LOL- you think you solved the problem, they tell you yes and just sneak behind your back!

My kids don’t have to sneak ice cream or snacks because they aren’t forbidden. Therefore, they understand moderation. They also know I’m not going to track them down about a small portion of ice cream at lunch, particular if they are eating other well balance things with it. See how that works. Teach kids proper things from a young age, give them freedom to maneuver and make mistakes and great relationships.

+1. DP.

When my kids were young (like early ES), we used to restrict how many times per week, they could have desserts and sweets. It was never forbidden, but we just talked about having sweets and desserts only sometimes. They had choices about when during the week they wanted sweets. So, if we knew we woudl be going out for dinner, we would ask if they wanted to wait for the day we went out or if they wanted it tonight and things like that. They learned to pick and choose when to have sweets. By the time they got to upper elementary, we stopped doing that and they learned to self-regulate.

We also talk about a healthy life style and if they are going to have more sweets (like near Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, birthday), then we need to increase the physical activity. So, we talk about less screen time and more outdoor time if/when they are eating more desserts and sweets.

Rather than regulating for them, we teach them how to regulate for themselves. If you eat more junk, you need to exercise more. If you eat less junk, you can exercise less and do more sedentary things in your spare time. The whole, teach a man to fish theory.

That sounds really restrictive. IME if you let them eat what they want they learn to make good choices. Restricting sweets to only a couple times per week will make them crave it more and binge when you do give it to them.

You can postulate all you want, but our practice of talking to them about making choices accomplished what we wanted. The children are middle schoolers now and are probably 5 years past when we used to talk about choosing when to have desserts. They don't have a lot of sweets or desserts. They still have desserts and sweets like every other day at most and they are healthy weights and fit. Your suggestion hat restricting sweets would make them crave it could not be further from the truth. We talked about how often they had treats and sweets and included them in the choices. We taught them how to make healthy choices, not by restricting them from having them, but in choosing how often and when to have them.

They neither crave it more nor binge it. So your armchair psychological assessment is pretty wrong.

You actually may not know because these kids are good at sneaking behind your back. But keep your head in the sand!

Perhaps your children lack integrity but I raised mine to be honest.

And they are - until they get caught!