Latin - diversity

[Anonymous]

Wow, I've never seen this much hate on a Latin thread before. Almost thought I was on a BASIS thread for a minute.

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Anonymous wrote:Outdated language. Young “women and men” excludes the population of kids that do not categorize themselves as either. Okay Latin - you need to update your stated values. And what does “good character” mean - your language program that excludes Spanish indicates you do not believe the Spanish language belongs in your good character program. Latin needs to join us in 2023.

Never change, SJW, never change. As always the performance art crew focuses on the things that really matter. SMH.

Never change, DCUM, never change. As always DCUM snarkers attack other posters with irrelevant criticism. SMH.

The accusation was that the poster was engaged in performative nonsense instead of actual issues that impact the education provided. Not sure why you think that is "irrelevant". Maybe you don't know what the word means?

DP.

You were engaged in performative nonsense, and your comments were dumb and irrelevant.

Maybe just sit this one out.

Did you just "I know you are but what am I" this thing? Serious question: Are you a troll or are you actually incapable of understanding that the web site using [GASP] gender terms is not something that matters in a system otherwise failing? Try to answer without resorting to middle school "I'm rubber you're glue..." level remarks.

P.S. Or do you not know what "irrelevant" means? Because I'm starting to think you think it means "A response that exposes me as an unserious person engaged in performative nonsense above substance and serious thought."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, I've never seen this much hate on a Latin thread before. Almost thought I was on a BASIS thread for a minute.

The BASIS hate and Latin hate aren't real. They are reflective of the garbage generally seen on social media. There's a small but vocal group of true believers who think (i) charters are evil and (ii) educating kids is secondary to "equity" and "anti-racism". That small group dominates discussion here. Most others, I think, are nervous parents who understandably lack confidence in whether they are doing the right thing for their kids and so they lash out and attack because it makes them feel better about their choices. It was never about BASIS. It isn't about Latin.

[Anonymous]

The Black and Latinx kids I know who lotteried into Latin fell into two camps.

Those from high SES who left because they got into private schools.

Those from low SES who were counseled out/flunked out/'encouraged' to leave, or got scholarships to private schools.

The story's the same at every charter in DC that attracts the affluent. DCI will get there too, it's already happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Black and Latinx kids I know who lotteried into Latin fell into two camps.

Those from high SES who left because they got into private schools.

Those from low SES who were counseled out/flunked out/'encouraged' to leave, or got scholarships to private schools.

The story's the same at every charter in DC that attracts the affluent. DCI will get there too, it's already happening.

This makes no sense because Latin's MS is 36.6% black and hispanic, and the HS is 55.1% black and hispanic, so kids from this demographic are not leaving for privates or flunking out in large numbers.

DCI is 40% Hispanic, 30% black, and less than 20% white. Given that DCI's Spanish-language feeders tend to have higher percentages of hispanic students than other public schools, and that DCI offers more seats for Spanish than any other language, it's hard to imagine the percent of hispanic students dropping, and I don't really understand why you would predict they would?

There are enough real issues in DC public schools that we don't have to invent weird conspiracy theories like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Black and Latinx kids I know who lotteried into Latin fell into two camps.

Those from high SES who left because they got into private schools.

Those from low SES who were counseled out/flunked out/'encouraged' to leave, or got scholarships to private schools.

The story's the same at every charter in DC that attracts the affluent. DCI will get there too, it's already happening.

Yep - URM’s flunking their way into Sidwell on full rides.

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Anonymous wrote:It is great that Latin is a good school option. But the point is that a free public charter school should make itself known and available to all kids, including the neighborhood in which it is based. It should not be catering only to the high ses families in ward 6 through shuttles etc. is there a ward 8 shuttle?

They recruit from all over the city and pushed for the at-risk preference for schools. Not sure what else they are supposed to do beyond that.

Open their second campus in a part of the city that wasn't already well-served by similar/competitive charter schools? Wasn't their original plan to open the new campus in Ward 7 or 8?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Black and Latinx kids I know who lotteried into Latin fell into two camps.

Those from high SES who left because they got into private schools.

Those from low SES who were counseled out/flunked out/'encouraged' to leave, or got scholarships to private schools.

The story's the same at every charter in DC that attracts the affluent. DCI will get there too, it's already happening.

Yep - URM’s flunking their way into Sidwell on full rides.

I think 'counseled out' and 'got scholarships' were separate groups...

[Anonymous]

Latin has a longer school day, uniforms, stricter rules (behavior, phone usage, revokes privileges, etc.) asks a lot of their students academically and socially (character), and for most people -- a longer commute.

It's a lot more effort for the student and the parents. Regardless of race, a lot of students self-select into those characteristics and apply via the lottery and give it a high preference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Latin has a longer school day, uniforms, stricter rules (behavior, phone usage, revokes privileges, etc.) asks a lot of their students academically and socially (character), and for most people -- a longer commute.

It's a lot more effort for the student and the parents. Regardless of race, a lot of students self-select into those characteristics and apply via the lottery and give it a high preference.

Latin also gives out A LOT of challenging homework. I, personally, love it, but we do a great deal of homework support at home. I wonder how other families manage it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Latin has a longer school day, uniforms, stricter rules (behavior, phone usage, revokes privileges, etc.) asks a lot of their students academically and socially (character), and for most people -- a longer commute.

It's a lot more effort for the student and the parents. Regardless of race, a lot of students self-select into those characteristics and apply via the lottery and give it a high preference.

Latin also gives out A LOT of challenging homework. I, personally, love it, but we do a great deal of homework support at home. I wonder how other families manage it.

This is a nutshell is how standards get lowered. If we hand out homework kids will have to do it. If they don't have support at home it isn't fair. Solution: No homework so kids without support don't feel bad.

[Anonymous]

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Latin has a longer school day, uniforms, stricter rules (behavior, phone usage, revokes privileges, etc.) asks a lot of their students academically and socially (character), and for most people -- a longer commute.

It's a lot more effort for the student and the parents. Regardless of race, a lot of students self-select into those characteristics and apply via the lottery and give it a high preference.


Latin also gives out A LOT of challenging homework. I, personally, love it, but we do a great deal of homework support at home. I wonder how other families manage it.

Latin's teachers stay after classroom hours end for 4 out of 5 school days for at least an extra 45 minutes. Those teacher "office hours" are referred to as "tutorial" in Latin's school terminology. Any child at Latin can attend tutorials after school every day of the week and get their homework done and can get extra help from teachers if they are having trouble understanding anything. Any child receiving a D or an F in a class is intensely encouraged to attend tutorial in order to catch up and make improvement. The teachers at Latin are very focused on what kids may not be getting support at home and the school tries to address those issues by offering these opportunities.

[Anonymous]

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Latin has a longer school day, uniforms, stricter rules (behavior, phone usage, revokes privileges, etc.) asks a lot of their students academically and socially (character), and for most people -- a longer commute.

It's a lot more effort for the student and the parents. Regardless of race, a lot of students self-select into those characteristics and apply via the lottery and give it a high preference.


Latin also gives out A LOT of challenging homework. I, personally, love it, but we do a great deal of homework support at home. I wonder how other families manage it.

Latin's teachers stay after classroom hours end for 4 out of 5 school days for at least an extra 45 minutes. Those teacher "office hours" are referred to as "tutorial" in Latin's school terminology. Any child at Latin can attend tutorials after school every day of the week and get their homework done and can get extra help from teachers if they are having trouble understanding anything. Any child receiving a D or an F in a class is intensely encouraged to attend tutorial in order to catch up and make improvement. The teachers at Latin are very focused on what kids may not be getting support at home and the school tries to address those issues by offering these opportunities.

NP and I think those supports are fantastic. Unfortunately some kids have long commutes home and probably can’t stay late/it isn’t safe for them to stay late and travel after dark. Realities of DC and how unsafe it is these days.

[Anonymous]

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Latin has a longer school day, uniforms, stricter rules (behavior, phone usage, revokes privileges, etc.) asks a lot of their students academically and socially (character), and for most people -- a longer commute.

It's a lot more effort for the student and the parents. Regardless of race, a lot of students self-select into those characteristics and apply via the lottery and give it a high preference.


Latin also gives out A LOT of challenging homework. I, personally, love it, but we do a great deal of homework support at home. I wonder how other families manage it.

Latin's teachers stay after classroom hours end for 4 out of 5 school days for at least an extra 45 minutes. Those teacher "office hours" are referred to as "tutorial" in Latin's school terminology. Any child at Latin can attend tutorials after school every day of the week and get their homework done and can get extra help from teachers if they are having trouble understanding anything. Any child receiving a D or an F in a class is intensely encouraged to attend tutorial in order to catch up and make improvement. The teachers at Latin are very focused on what kids may not be getting support at home and the school tries to address those issues by offering these opportunities.

NP and I think those supports are fantastic. Unfortunately some kids have long commutes home and probably can’t stay late/it isn’t safe for them to stay late and travel after dark. Realities of DC and how unsafe it is these days.

My daughter does all of the tutorials. And the bus doesn't leave until after they are done. She gets home late, for sure. And it's dark. And she walks.

If you want super -safe, convenient, and great education, go to Bethesda. But I don't want to live there nor give my kids that experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
Latin has a longer school day, uniforms, stricter rules (behavior, phone usage, revokes privileges, etc.) asks a lot of their students academically and socially (character), and for most people -- a longer commute.

It's a lot more effort for the student and the parents. Regardless of race, a lot of students self-select into those characteristics and apply via the lottery and give it a high preference.


Latin also gives out A LOT of challenging homework. I, personally, love it, but we do a great deal of homework support at home. I wonder how other families manage it.

Latin's teachers stay after classroom hours end for 4 out of 5 school days for at least an extra 45 minutes. Those teacher "office hours" are referred to as "tutorial" in Latin's school terminology. Any child at Latin can attend tutorials after school every day of the week and get their homework done and can get extra help from teachers if they are having trouble understanding anything. Any child receiving a D or an F in a class is intensely encouraged to attend tutorial in order to catch up and make improvement. The teachers at Latin are very focused on what kids may not be getting support at home and the school tries to address those issues by offering these opportunities.

NP and I think those supports are fantastic. Unfortunately some kids have long commutes home and probably can’t stay late/it isn’t safe for them to stay late and travel after dark. Realities of DC and how unsafe it is these days.

My daughter does all of the tutorials. And the bus doesn't leave until after they are done. She gets home late, for sure. And it's dark. And she walks.

If you want super -safe, convenient, and great education, go to Bethesda. But I don't want to live there nor give my kids that experience.

Is the bus you are referring to the bus that goes to Eastern Market? I am not sure if there is an extra cost for that, but even if not, there are many families in DC who would need to travel much further home. Despite the uptick in crime, if you live on Capitol Hill, it is still a pretty safe place to walk around. There are a lot of kids who need to take multiple bus/metro lines to get to school - so it is not just the walk home at the end of day, it is the time on metro or bus that can also be unsafe. I know that is not directly the point of the thread, but folks need to get out of their bubbles and understand the real safety/transportation/sibling pick up decisions that a lot of the families in DC have to make. Most families in DC don't have the luxury of 'just moving to Bethesda'.