Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no way I’d go to the ocean floor in a homemade submarine controlled by a modified video game controller.

Yeah, seems like a bad idea. I would not be a hard no at anything bolted from the outside. Seems too much like a coffin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if these people had 96 hours of oxygen I don’t think they had any water. And I believe you can only live three days without water.

Drinking your own urine would give you another day or two.

But it’s moot point, as all signs point to a sudden hull collapse.

The submersible has a relatively novel hull of titanium and carbon fiber. Given the brittle nature of carbon fiber, I suspect the monitoring for defects isn't well understood at this time for this application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no way I’d go to the ocean floor in a homemade submarine controlled by a modified video game controller.

Yeah, seems like a bad idea. I would not be a hard no at anything bolted from the outside. Seems too much like a coffin.

There's no way you could get me into this tube even if it was on dry land:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-65958697

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if these people had 96 hours of oxygen I don’t think they had any water. And I believe you can only live three days without water.

Drinking your own urine would give you another day or two.

But it’s moot point, as all signs point to a sudden hull collapse.

The submersible has a relatively novel hull of titanium and carbon fiber. Given the brittle nature of carbon fiber, I suspect the monitoring for defects isn't well understood at this time for this application.

Carbon fiber is used by Boeing for 787 wings. It’s well enough understood if you’re Boeing. I’m not sure there is any shed made submersible I’d trust at 13k feet regardless of material

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no way I’d go to the ocean floor in a homemade submarine controlled by a modified video game controller.

Yeah, seems like a bad idea. I would not be a hard no at anything bolted from the outside. Seems too much like a coffin.

They’re getting the complete Titanic experience complete with hubris leading to death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if these people had 96 hours of oxygen I don’t think they had any water. And I believe you can only live three days without water.

Drinking your own urine would give you another day or two.

But it’s moot point, as all signs point to a sudden hull collapse.

The submersible has a relatively novel hull of titanium and carbon fiber. Given the brittle nature of carbon fiber, I suspect the monitoring for defects isn't well understood at this time for this application.

Carbon fiber is used by Boeing for 787 wings. It’s well enough understood if you’re Boeing. I’m not sure there is any shed made submersible I’d trust at 13k feet regardless of material

Boeing has likely built and tested hundreds of wings and characterized the durability and failure modes. However, Boeing still has problems.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-memo-reveals-more-boeing-787-manufacturing-defects-including-contamination-of-carbon-fiber-composites/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if these people had 96 hours of oxygen I don’t think they had any water. And I believe you can only live three days without water.

Drinking your own urine would give you another day or two.

But it’s moot point, as all signs point to a sudden hull collapse.

The submersible has a relatively novel hull of titanium and carbon fiber. Given the brittle nature of carbon fiber, I suspect the monitoring for defects isn't well understood at this time for this application.

Carbon fiber is used by Boeing for 787 wings. It’s well enough understood if you’re Boeing. I’m not sure there is any shed made submersible I’d trust at 13k feet regardless of material

Boeing has likely built and tested hundreds of wings and characterized the durability and failure modes. However, Boeing still has problems.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-memo-reveals-more-boeing-787-manufacturing-defects-including-contamination-of-carbon-fiber-composites/

Also, water is different from air!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is the same excess of wealth, hubris, and reliance on flawed, yet cutting edge technology that led to the sinking of the Titanic. The parallels give me chills. What an unnecessary nightmare. I hope for a good outcome.

Although well-intentioned, this kind of tourism should stop. The parallels drawn in other posts to Gettysburg, etc., aren't the same because those are far more accessible- no great wealth required.

Agree. It really is stunning.

[Anonymous]

Apparently, even if they find them (and they are not floating) there is nothing they can do. Only 3 subs in the world can go to that depth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, even if they find them (and they are not floating) there is nothing they can do. Only 3 subs in the world can go to that depth.

Exactly. Nothing can be done. And the people who went down in the submersible knew that was a possibility before they left.

[Anonymous]

The pressure that far below must be tremendous. I would think that alone would kill you- presuming this was caused by a technical malfunction. it really doesn't matter that there's 60, 70, 80 hrs of oxygen left.
The insurmountable water pressure did it.

There's no response from the Titan similar to when airplanes/particularly Cessnas crash b/c the airpresure, for whatever reason, stops being regulated and the pilot passes out and unable to recover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry they are lost, but the extent and scope of the media coverage on this is ridiculous. These are five rich people who willingly chose to go on a dangerous morbid site seeing exercise. It is getting significant media attention only because it has all the “right” elements to appeal to stupid people who consume news: Titanic, submarine, missing rich people, limited oxygen.

Meanwhile, a migrant boat capsized off Greece last week (possibly caused by the Greek Coast Guard itself) with up to 700 deaths, and there is shockingly little coverage of it, only because it has all the “wrong” elements: poor migrants, rickety boat, official involvement in the disaster.

Ironically, the migrant boat was carrying a lot of poor Pakistanis, and the Titanic sub apparently has two rich Pakistani tourists aboard. So tell me as a society what we care about: money!

I'm glad I'm not the only person who saw this ugly contradiction.

The juxtaposition of these two stories is most everything that is wrong with our society in a nutshell. Also noteworthy is that the women and children were all kept in the hold of the migrant boat, and thus nearly only adult men who survived. Human society is all misogyny, xenophobia and greed.

[Anonymous]

Boeing was involved in building the hull. This isn’t some back shed construction.

It is just a different way for others to view the remains of Titanic.

It should not just be limited to scientists and movie makers. Just as space is no longer limited to governments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even if these people had 96 hours of oxygen I don’t think they had any water. And I believe you can only live three days without water.

A common misconception. I am a hospice caregiver and have been for the last almost decade. Even very frail dying people can live many days without water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This story is insane. But how are they going to rescue this sub? Send a military sub after it and tow it to the surface?

Military subs can’t go anywhere near that deep.

Only research subs go deep enough.

Those people were crushed, instantly.

I feel so bad for those poor people!

I read that even if they could get a research sub there - they can't lift the titan anyway. but agree - this sounds like hull failure. for their sake - I hope so. better outcome than sitting at the bottom of the ocean pondering your mortality for four days