Gwyneth Paltrow court case

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But if she's so tiny, wouldn't she be injured if he hit her?
Anonymous
I frequently ski the green runs at deer valley. The reports I've read about this case mention a green run, but don't say which one and I'm very curious. Does anyone know?

Since they had an instructor with them I'm guessing Ontario or Success, plus you can get some speed on those.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I frequently ski the green runs at deer valley. The reports I've read about this case mention a green run, but don't say which one and I'm very curious. Does anyone know?

Since they had an instructor with them I'm guessing Ontario or Success, plus you can get some speed on those.


Never mind. I found it. Bandana. That's more challenging than Ontario and Success and you can definitely go pretty fast.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I frequently ski the green runs at deer valley. The reports I've read about this case mention a green run, but don't say which one and I'm very curious. Does anyone know?

Since they had an instructor with them I'm guessing Ontario or Success, plus you can get some speed on those.


It was on Bandana. Always a crowd there.
Anonymous
I live in park city. No one here is paying much attention to the case. I think her kids are testifying and I’m curious if they can resist not skiing because the snow is absolutely fantastic right now.

But for those who are saying she couldn’t have hurt anyone by skiing into them because she doesn’t weigh much, it’s absolutely not true. The person who is stationery is usually injured more than the person who is speeding toward them. The uphill skier has more time to brace themselves/prepare for the collision. I know several locals who have broken ribs and dislocated shoulders from kids hitting them from behind on green runs. In all those cases, the kids (thankfully) had no injuries.

I think it’s pretty likely that she did collide with him because of the fact that she was totally uninjured. He might have been doing a wide turn across the entire run and since she has said that she skis down the right, he could have popped up in front of her if she was watching her kids. On green runs, you have to expect beginners to make wiiiide turns. I also think he sounds pretty out there and should have let it go a long time ago.
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I am always nervous skiing on Bandana because it is a green and also the main way of getting to an area of the mountain with a lot of black trails and some double blacks, which means that you have people with a variety of ski levels all crammed on the same trail.
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Anonymous wrote:But if she's so tiny, wouldn't she be injured if he hit her?


Wouldn't she also be injured if she hit him? A collision is a collision. Weird that one walked away and one didn't, unless you consider he was a very old man and it doesn't take much to break a hip or bone. He supposedly had a list of ailments prior to the accident and is blind in one eye. Maybe he never even saw her.
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Anonymous wrote:But if she's so tiny, wouldn't she be injured if he hit her?


Wouldn't she also be injured if she hit him? A collision is a collision. Weird that one walked away and one didn't, unless you consider he was a very old man and it doesn't take much to break a hip or bone. He supposedly had a list of ailments prior to the accident and is blind in one eye. Maybe he never even saw her.


Quite possibly, but in the many collisions I have seen and heard of, the downhill unsuspecting skier is the one who is more often injured. The injury is often not from the first collision, but being knocked to the ground/having your equipment jab into you. The uphill skier's momentum gets stopped by the collision. The downhill skier gets propelled down the slope and falls awkwardly on their skis/poles. Imagine a child on a swing hits you from behind. Who is more likely injured?

Also, usually the person who is struck from behind doesn't take off down the mountain after the collision. They wait around to get over their shock and to get the skier at fault's info.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But if she's so tiny, wouldn't she be injured if he hit her?


Wouldn't she also be injured if she hit him? A collision is a collision. Weird that one walked away and one didn't, unless you consider he was a very old man and it doesn't take much to break a hip or bone. He supposedly had a list of ailments prior to the accident and is blind in one eye. Maybe he never even saw her.


Quite possibly, but in the many collisions I have seen and heard of, the downhill unsuspecting skier is the one who is more often injured. The injury is often not from the first collision, but being knocked to the ground/having your equipment jab into you. The uphill skier's momentum gets stopped by the collision. The downhill skier gets propelled down the slope and falls awkwardly on their skis/poles. Imagine a child on a swing hits you from behind. Who is more likely injured?

Also, usually the person who is struck from behind doesn't take off down the mountain after the collision. They wait around to get over their shock and to get the skier at fault's info.


Was he wearing a helmet? I would guess not. Seems strange to engage in a dangerous sport at such an age without the proper gear to be safe.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But if she's so tiny, wouldn't she be injured if he hit her?


Wouldn't she also be injured if she hit him? A collision is a collision. Weird that one walked away and one didn't, unless you consider he was a very old man and it doesn't take much to break a hip or bone. He supposedly had a list of ailments prior to the accident and is blind in one eye. Maybe he never even saw her.


Quite possibly, but in the many collisions I have seen and heard of, the downhill unsuspecting skier is the one who is more often injured. The injury is often not from the first collision, but being knocked to the ground/having your equipment jab into you. The uphill skier's momentum gets stopped by the collision. The downhill skier gets propelled down the slope and falls awkwardly on their skis/poles. Imagine a child on a swing hits you from behind. Who is more likely injured?

Also, usually the person who is struck from behind doesn't take off down the mountain after the collision. They wait around to get over their shock and to get the skier at fault's info.


Was he wearing a helmet? I would guess not. Seems strange to engage in a dangerous sport at such an age without the proper gear to be safe.


Why would you guess not? Helmets are protective, but they can't completely prevent concussions. In fact, head injury statistics from snowsports haven't changed much since helmets were introduced, perhaps because people have a false sense of protection. And often they aren't fastened correctly and come off in collisions. Keep that strap tight everyone!
Anonymous
For someone who is always shilling wacky wellness products and advice , she looks terrible. Spare me the 'she looks good for her age' nonsense .
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Anonymous wrote:But if she's so tiny, wouldn't she be injured if he hit her?


Wouldn't she also be injured if she hit him? A collision is a collision. Weird that one walked away and one didn't, unless you consider he was a very old man and it doesn't take much to break a hip or bone. He supposedly had a list of ailments prior to the accident and is blind in one eye. Maybe he never even saw her.


Quite possibly, but in the many collisions I have seen and heard of, the downhill unsuspecting skier is the one who is more often injured. The injury is often not from the first collision, but being knocked to the ground/having your equipment jab into you. The uphill skier's momentum gets stopped by the collision. The downhill skier gets propelled down the slope and falls awkwardly on their skis/poles. Imagine a child on a swing hits you from behind. Who is more likely injured?

Also, usually the person who is struck from behind doesn't take off down the mountain after the collision. They wait around to get over their shock and to get the skier at fault's info.


Was he wearing a helmet? I would guess not. Seems strange to engage in a dangerous sport at such an age without the proper gear to be safe.


Why would you guess not? Helmets are protective, but they can't completely prevent concussions. In fact, head injury statistics from snowsports haven't changed much since helmets were introduced, perhaps because people have a false sense of protection. And often they aren't fastened correctly and come off in collisions. Keep that strap tight everyone!


I haven't heard anyone say he was wearing a helmet. Have you?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But if she's so tiny, wouldn't she be injured if he hit her?


Wouldn't she also be injured if she hit him? A collision is a collision. Weird that one walked away and one didn't, unless you consider he was a very old man and it doesn't take much to break a hip or bone. He supposedly had a list of ailments prior to the accident and is blind in one eye. Maybe he never even saw her.


Quite possibly, but in the many collisions I have seen and heard of, the downhill unsuspecting skier is the one who is more often injured. The injury is often not from the first collision, but being knocked to the ground/having your equipment jab into you. The uphill skier's momentum gets stopped by the collision. The downhill skier gets propelled down the slope and falls awkwardly on their skis/poles. Imagine a child on a swing hits you from behind. Who is more likely injured?

Also, usually the person who is struck from behind doesn't take off down the mountain after the collision. They wait around to get over their shock and to get the skier at fault's info.


Was he wearing a helmet? I would guess not. Seems strange to engage in a dangerous sport at such an age without the proper gear to be safe.


Why would you guess not? Helmets are protective, but they can't completely prevent concussions. In fact, head injury statistics from snowsports haven't changed much since helmets were introduced, perhaps because people have a false sense of protection. And often they aren't fastened correctly and come off in collisions. Keep that strap tight everyone!


I haven't heard anyone say he was wearing a helmet. Have you?


^ to add I would think his team would say something like "but for his helmet things could have been worse or deadly" so it leads me to conclude he was not like wearing a helmet.
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Anonymous wrote:But if she's so tiny, wouldn't she be injured if he hit her?


Wouldn't she also be injured if she hit him? A collision is a collision. Weird that one walked away and one didn't, unless you consider he was a very old man and it doesn't take much to break a hip or bone. He supposedly had a list of ailments prior to the accident and is blind in one eye. Maybe he never even saw her.


Quite possibly, but in the many collisions I have seen and heard of, the downhill unsuspecting skier is the one who is more often injured. The injury is often not from the first collision, but being knocked to the ground/having your equipment jab into you. The uphill skier's momentum gets stopped by the collision. The downhill skier gets propelled down the slope and falls awkwardly on their skis/poles. Imagine a child on a swing hits you from behind. Who is more likely injured?

Also, usually the person who is struck from behind doesn't take off down the mountain after the collision. They wait around to get over their shock and to get the skier at fault's info.


Was he wearing a helmet? I would guess not. Seems strange to engage in a dangerous sport at such an age without the proper gear to be safe.


Why would you guess not? Helmets are protective, but they can't completely prevent concussions. In fact, head injury statistics from snowsports haven't changed much since helmets were introduced, perhaps because people have a false sense of protection. And often they aren't fastened correctly and come off in collisions. Keep that strap tight everyone!


I haven't heard anyone say he was wearing a helmet. Have you?


I haven't heard anyone say he was or wasn't. There is some local coverage of the trial, I haven't read through the whole thing. Perhaps it's in there? I wonder why the ski instructors haven't been called as witnesses.

https://www.kpcw.org/live-updates/watch-live-gwyneth-paltrow-in-summit-county-court-for-second-day-of-ski-accident-trial?fbclid=IwAR1VBiGWSvwbNnM3w-iPTbKikHDw2YD9xUacGWW-zhC_Y0TyNsCV4pP6lvw
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Anonymous wrote:haha, that is a pretty magnolia though



Yuck. Are these supposedly fashionable or is she trying to look like a feeble old lady for the jury (and not the filthy rich entitled Hollywood wacko she is)?


She is a filthy rich entitled Hollywood wacko who's always fashionable. But you already knew that.


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