Be Honest: Would You Be Happy If You Paid Full-Price For an Elite School and Your Child Became an

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We need more teachers and less consultants and lawyers in our society.

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Anonymous wrote:Our elementary school has an Ivy League graduate teaching 4th grade. She is SO GOOD.

Yeah, but I bet she’d be just as good with a state school degree. Great teachers aren’t made, they are born.

Such BS. I was not interested in teaching at all. I was going to go to law school. I ended up going into teaching for various practical reasons. I found it a hard road but eventually through a lot of trial and error, I became a great teacher. A lot of teachers end up quitting within the first few years. They are good teachers but they don't have the perseverance that you need to stay in the job.

Doesn’t every teacher think they are great?
Just like you never hear anyone say they are bad at their job

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The average teacher is a millionaire so why not

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This is such a good and interesting thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Our elementary school has an Ivy League graduate teaching 4th grade. She is SO GOOD.

Yeah, but I bet she’d be just as good with a state school degree. Great teachers aren’t made, they are born.

Such BS. I was not interested in teaching at all. I was going to go to law school. I ended up going into teaching for various practical reasons. I found it a hard road but eventually through a lot of trial and error, I became a great teacher. A lot of teachers end up quitting within the first few years. They are good teachers but they don't have the perseverance that you need to stay in the job.

Doesn’t every teacher think they are great?
Just like you never hear anyone say they are bad at their job

Well, their test scores don’t lie.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents sent me to a big 3 and then I went to a highly regarded college. My mom was a school teacher and I think my parents were very proud that I chose to be a teacher. My hours and days off schedule aligned with my kids who are in the same school system which allowed me to spend a lot of time with them after school and on breaks which they know is good for their grandchildren.

Also, I bet my students and their parents appreciate that elite education.

This is PEAK flex and, also nauseatingly self-satisfied. I'm not sure why PP has such an overinflated ego, but it's unwarrented. I certainly wouldn't care if my kids became teachers, it's a pretty sweet life if you can afford it. But I would hope they aren't entitled suprior pricks like PP. Posters like this one is why DCUM hates teachers.

Lmao

This is the same reaction I had. I don’t think my hours or working conditions are part of a “sweet life.” If it were so sweet, there wouldn’t be such a mass exodus out of the profession right now. Heck, I have crying coworkers because of the job’s stress.

I posted above. No, I don’t support my kids going into teaching. It’s not because I find the job unimportant or lacking respect. (On the contrary, it’s one of the most important jobs one can have.) It’s because the conditions are dreadful right now.

Compared to most other professions - teachers work fewer hours a year. And all the stress I hear about from teachers - you have things that have to get done in a timely way, your clients are demanding (parents and teachers), and the expectations can sometimes seem overwhelming - is just normal work stuff. "Stress" is performing surgery, speaking in front of boards of corporations, flying a plane, negotiating national treaties, leading staffs in the hundreds through a recession.
Could it possibly be that the mass exodus is occurring for reasons other than "stress?" Because most of the complaints seem like normal expectations of those with jobs.

I’m the PP. You’re welcome to join me at work for a week. I think you’ll have more respect for what teachers do when you actually see it. It’s high stress with no breaks. It’s 60+ hour weeks (every week). It’s impossible demands. It’s the reason why 2/3rds of my department has quit in recent years and why we have lost 4 teachers during the year this year.

I came from a corporate setting. My teaching job is (easily) 3X harder than my old job.

OP, here’s another reason to discourage a child from going into teaching. They’ll work their tails off only to be told they have it easy.

Get out of here with these preposterous lies. Teachers are not working 60+ hour weeks. Go to any school and the parking lot is empty at 4pm. Women become teachers precisely because it is less demanding than a private sector job.

I taught before I went into the private sector and my corporate job is much more demanding but that’s fine because it’s much better paid.

Night and weekend work is normal for most professions. I work at a non profit and I frequently work nights and weekends as well. The histrionics about a "stressful day" (you aren't working on an oil rig...) and "long hours" falls on seriously unsympathetic ears for those of us who work 50 weeks a year.

I was never more stressed when I had to wake up high schoolers who were physically combative. I got kicked, punched, shoved, etc. I’ve had a knife pulled on me and kids waiting for me at my car. Plenty of threats too. No thanks. It is s bit better in ES but almost every year I have a student who physically attacks me and other kids. This is no desk job.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents sent me to a big 3 and then I went to a highly regarded college. My mom was a school teacher and I think my parents were very proud that I chose to be a teacher. My hours and days off schedule aligned with my kids who are in the same school system which allowed me to spend a lot of time with them after school and on breaks which they know is good for their grandchildren.

Also, I bet my students and their parents appreciate that elite education.

This is PEAK flex and, also nauseatingly self-satisfied. I'm not sure why PP has such an overinflated ego, but it's unwarrented. I certainly wouldn't care if my kids became teachers, it's a pretty sweet life if you can afford it. But I would hope they aren't entitled suprior pricks like PP. Posters like this one is why DCUM hates teachers.

Lmao

This is the same reaction I had. I don’t think my hours or working conditions are part of a “sweet life.” If it were so sweet, there wouldn’t be such a mass exodus out of the profession right now. Heck, I have crying coworkers because of the job’s stress.

I posted above. No, I don’t support my kids going into teaching. It’s not because I find the job unimportant or lacking respect. (On the contrary, it’s one of the most important jobs one can have.) It’s because the conditions are dreadful right now.

Compared to most other professions - teachers work fewer hours a year. And all the stress I hear about from teachers - you have things that have to get done in a timely way, your clients are demanding (parents and teachers), and the expectations can sometimes seem overwhelming - is just normal work stuff. "Stress" is performing surgery, speaking in front of boards of corporations, flying a plane, negotiating national treaties, leading staffs in the hundreds through a recession.
Could it possibly be that the mass exodus is occurring for reasons other than "stress?" Because most of the complaints seem like normal expectations of those with jobs.

I’m the PP. You’re welcome to join me at work for a week. I think you’ll have more respect for what teachers do when you actually see it. It’s high stress with no breaks. It’s 60+ hour weeks (every week). It’s impossible demands. It’s the reason why 2/3rds of my department has quit in recent years and why we have lost 4 teachers during the year this year.

I came from a corporate setting. My teaching job is (easily) 3X harder than my old job.

OP, here’s another reason to discourage a child from going into teaching. They’ll work their tails off only to be told they have it easy.

Get out of here with these preposterous lies. Teachers are not working 60+ hour weeks. Go to any school and the parking lot is empty at 4pm. Women become teachers precisely because it is less demanding than a private sector job.

I taught before I went into the private sector and my corporate job is much more demanding but that’s fine because it’s much better paid.

Night and weekend work is normal for most professions. I work at a non profit and I frequently work nights and weekends as well. The histrionics about a "stressful day" (you aren't working on an oil rig...) and "long hours" falls on seriously unsympathetic ears for those of us who work 50 weeks a year.

I was never more stressed when I had to wake up high schoolers who were physically combative. I got kicked, punched, shoved, etc. I’ve had a knife pulled on me and kids waiting for me at my car. Plenty of threats too. No thanks. It is s bit better in ES but almost every year I have a student who physically attacks me and other kids. This is no desk job.

I’ve taught with students recording my every word and move while other students intentionally tried to bait me. It was terrifying. I wasn’t able to confiscate phones, and there were no school consequences for using them in the classroom.

I no longer work at that school, but I still remember how terribly alone I felt. School security was constantly absent and admin never left the main office. The students ran the school and they knew it. Teachers learned to back each other up, and we had to break up fights in the hall and our classrooms with no extra support.

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Anonymous wrote:Our elementary school has an Ivy League graduate teaching 4th grade. She is SO GOOD.

Yeah, but I bet she’d be just as good with a state school degree. Great teachers aren’t made, they are born.

Such BS. I was not interested in teaching at all. I was going to go to law school. I ended up going into teaching for various practical reasons. I found it a hard road but eventually through a lot of trial and error, I became a great teacher. A lot of teachers end up quitting within the first few years. They are good teachers but they don't have the perseverance that you need to stay in the job.

Doesn’t every teacher think they are great?
Just like you never hear anyone say they are bad at their job

Well, their test scores don’t lie.

The smartest person might not be the person who can get through to preschoolers.

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Anonymous wrote:The average teacher is a millionaire so why not

Uh huh

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And this right here is why rich kids in this country are more stressed out than middle class kids.

For a middle class kid, there are all kinds of potential lives you can live where your parents will be proud of you: teacher, salesman, pharmacist, academic, scientist, nurse, etc.

For a rich kid, most of those outcomes are not allowed, and parents will find you embarrassing. Only medicine, law, banking, and tech allowed.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure. It'd be fine with me. I'm not sending my kid to school so they get a high paying job. I'm sending them to the school for the experience they're getting while they are there.

Peak rich person moment

Peak jealousy moment

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’ve told my own children to pick any field other than education. I work way, way too hard for very little money and respect. I want better for them.

It’s a shame because I think teaching is among the most honorable of professions.

Respect is earned. If you’re not getting respect, do better.

This is why our teachers need to be paid better and respected. The stories my DD tells me about how rude and disrespectful the kids are to her hard working teachers are pathetic. I hear about the junk everyday.

The stories my kids tell me indicate that many teachers are profoundly stupid and lazy, hence unworthy of respect. These teachers need to be fired not paid more.

Hmmmm. Yes, some. But not all. You sound like a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents sent me to a big 3 and then I went to a highly regarded college. My mom was a school teacher and I think my parents were very proud that I chose to be a teacher. My hours and days off schedule aligned with my kids who are in the same school system which allowed me to spend a lot of time with them after school and on breaks which they know is good for their grandchildren.

Also, I bet my students and their parents appreciate that elite education.

This is PEAK flex and, also nauseatingly self-satisfied. I'm not sure why PP has such an overinflated ego, but it's unwarrented. I certainly wouldn't care if my kids became teachers, it's a pretty sweet life if you can afford it. But I would hope they aren't entitled suprior pricks like PP. Posters like this one is why DCUM hates teachers.

Lmao

This is the same reaction I had. I don’t think my hours or working conditions are part of a “sweet life.” If it were so sweet, there wouldn’t be such a mass exodus out of the profession right now. Heck, I have crying coworkers because of the job’s stress.

I posted above. No, I don’t support my kids going into teaching. It’s not because I find the job unimportant or lacking respect. (On the contrary, it’s one of the most important jobs one can have.) It’s because the conditions are dreadful right now.

Compared to most other professions - teachers work fewer hours a year. And all the stress I hear about from teachers - you have things that have to get done in a timely way, your clients are demanding (parents and teachers), and the expectations can sometimes seem overwhelming - is just normal work stuff. "Stress" is performing surgery, speaking in front of boards of corporations, flying a plane, negotiating national treaties, leading staffs in the hundreds through a recession.
Could it possibly be that the mass exodus is occurring for reasons other than "stress?" Because most of the complaints seem like normal expectations of those with jobs.

I’m the PP. You’re welcome to join me at work for a week. I think you’ll have more respect for what teachers do when you actually see it. It’s high stress with no breaks. It’s 60+ hour weeks (every week). It’s impossible demands. It’s the reason why 2/3rds of my department has quit in recent years and why we have lost 4 teachers during the year this year.

I came from a corporate setting. My teaching job is (easily) 3X harder than my old job.

OP, here’s another reason to discourage a child from going into teaching. They’ll work their tails off only to be told they have it easy.

Get out of here with these preposterous lies. Teachers are not working 60+ hour weeks. Go to any school and the parking lot is empty at 4pm. Women become teachers precisely because it is less demanding than a private sector job.

I taught before I went into the private sector and my corporate job is much more demanding but that’s fine because it’s much better paid.

Night and weekend work is normal for most professions. I work at a non profit and I frequently work nights and weekends as well. The histrionics about a "stressful day" (you aren't working on an oil rig...) and "long hours" falls on seriously unsympathetic ears for those of us who work 50 weeks a year.

I was never more stressed when I had to wake up high schoolers who were physically combative. I got kicked, punched, shoved, etc. I’ve had a knife pulled on me and kids waiting for me at my car. Plenty of threats too. No thanks. It is s bit better in ES but almost every year I have a student who physically attacks me and other kids. This is no desk job.

I’ve taught with students recording my every word and move while other students intentionally tried to bait me. It was terrifying. I wasn’t able to confiscate phones, and there were no school consequences for using them in the classroom.

I no longer work at that school, but I still remember how terribly alone I felt. School security was constantly absent and admin never left the main office. The students ran the school and they knew it. Teachers learned to back each other up, and we had to break up fights in the hall and our classrooms with no extra support.

+1. Yes. DD tells me teachers are afraid to tell kids to put away phones, stop cracking him, stop blabbing. So disrespectful. And this is in a “ W” Montgomery County school. Really awful behavior from kids.

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Anonymous wrote:We need more teachers and less consultants and lawyers in our society.[/quote

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