I'm done with tipping

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


This is what is absurd. I don't tip at those places. They charge $12-15 a meal for fast food and you serve/clean up after yourself. If they cannot pay their staff decently, not much we can do and if we keep tipping, they have more excuses not to pay well.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I would rather have wages increased--which I think is coming for the wait service industry--than tipping. I hate tipping, this is not a thing where I come from in Asia.


My sibling is a bartender and neither he nor his coworkers want higher wages.

My brother makes $2.10/hr as his wage. With tips, he makes over $100k/year. He works Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday only.

He knows that when he's making $15/hr, people aren't going to leave good (if any) tips.

He works 4pm to 2am on a typical Saturday shift, so 10 hours. If he was making $15/hr and no tips, that's only $150 per shift. Who can live on that around here? He usually makes around $500 on a typical Saturday or as much as over $800 on a great night. This past Sunday he worked 9 am to midnight and made over $1,000 (World cup, 2 holiday parties, normal shift money).



He also never gets weekends or holidays off. Likely no benefits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


This is what is absurd. I don't tip at those places. They charge $12-15 a meal for fast food and you serve/clean up after yourself. If they cannot pay their staff decently, not much we can do and if we keep tipping, they have more excuses not to pay well.


And with table service?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have no problem tipping for things that we've always tipped - wait staff, hairdressers, and perhaps pet sitters.

But the new tipping culture... like for takeout? I'll do $1 an entree perhaps, but not more. Definitely not tipping 20% for picking up half a dozen bagels. Come the F on guys.


+100
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your tip money - just like your "Round Up for Charity" - goes to offset the cost of running a business so the CEO can have three homes and a private jet to fly to them all. And also so the organization has enough money to buy up other companies so that you have less choice.

Say no to tipping.


But you are not punishing the restaurant owner. Unless you call him/her over, explain you're not tipping and why, all that will happen is that the server will make less money.


This is an adolescent perspective. You’ll understand in 20 years.


Well, I’m middle aged and hold this view, so you must have one foot in the grave. Can’t wait until your generation and their shitty attitudes die out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


Why are you dining and ordering out at places you can’t afford? Stick to McDonalds if you can’t tip.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


Why are you dining and ordering out at places you can’t afford? Stick to McDonalds if you can’t tip.


Does McDonald’s not ask for/allow tips? Why should Panera and Starbucks employees be tippable, but not McDonald’s?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


I don’t have a problem tipping for actual services. The issue is the electronic payment screens that ask for tip on something that people never typically tip for.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


Why are you dining and ordering out at places you can’t afford? Stick to McDonalds if you can’t tip.


Does McDonald’s not ask for/allow tips? Why should Panera and Starbucks employees be tippable, but not McDonald’s?


I’m revising my advice—stay home and eat Cup o’ Noodles. That sounds like your speed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your tip money - just like your "Round Up for Charity" - goes to offset the cost of running a business so the CEO can have three homes and a private jet to fly to them all. And also so the organization has enough money to buy up other companies so that you have less choice.

Say no to tipping.


But you are not punishing the restaurant owner. Unless you call him/her over, explain you're not tipping and why, all that will happen is that the server will make less money.


This is an adolescent perspective. You’ll understand in 20 years.


Well, I’m middle aged and hold this view, so you must have one foot in the grave. Can’t wait until your generation and their shitty attitudes die out.


Or….critical thinking is not your forte.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


Why are you dining and ordering out at places you can’t afford? Stick to McDonalds if you can’t tip.


McDonald’s screens will be asking for tips soon too, no doubt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your tip money - just like your "Round Up for Charity" - goes to offset the cost of running a business so the CEO can have three homes and a private jet to fly to them all. And also so the organization has enough money to buy up other companies so that you have less choice.

Say no to tipping.


But you are not punishing the restaurant owner. Unless you call him/her over, explain you're not tipping and why, all that will happen is that the server will make less money.


This is an adolescent perspective. You’ll understand in 20 years.


Well, I’m middle aged and hold this view, so you must have one foot in the grave. Can’t wait until your generation and their shitty attitudes die out.


Or….critical thinking is not your forte.
w

Whatever, Methuselah.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.



Why would I be salty that I don't get tips? I do a job and get paid a salary. End of story. So simple. So easy. So logical. Give it a try some time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


Why are you dining and ordering out at places you can’t afford? Stick to McDonalds if you can’t tip.


Does McDonald’s not ask for/allow tips? Why should Panera and Starbucks employees be tippable, but not McDonald’s?


I’m revising my advice—stay home and eat Cup o’ Noodles. That sounds like your speed.


I’m just saying it’s so totally arbitrary and it’s ok for the consumer to be frustrated by that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


Why are you dining and ordering out at places you can’t afford? Stick to McDonalds if you can’t tip.


Does McDonald’s not ask for/allow tips? Why should Panera and Starbucks employees be tippable, but not McDonald’s?


I’m revising my advice—stay home and eat Cup o’ Noodles. That sounds like your speed.


Logically explain why a bellhop gets tips while a worker at McDonald's, chick FIL a, or chipotle doesn't.
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