New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

^^^And speaking of downtown Bethesda, I really wish the county would stop cars from parking in the bike lanes. Those plastic bollards aren't doing the job.

Take the bus. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

^^^And speaking of downtown Bethesda, I really wish the county would stop cars from parking in the bike lanes. Those plastic bollards aren't doing the job.

Take the bus. Problem solved.

"Stop driving. Problem solved." would be an equally irrational response.

On the other hand, "Stop parking your car in bike lanes or on sidewalks or crosswalks" is a rational response.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but those bike lanes are making Old Georgetown a complete cluster f***. Doubled the length of my commute this morning.

They need to do bike lanes that do not take away lanes for cars. It's not a zero-sum game, they need to add without taking away something

I drive "against" the rush hour flow each day and it is bumper to bumper the rush hour direction, even with work at home and hybrid work. So backed up. (I get on the beltway, and spouse goes up 270, so no we are not swapping out bikes)

Today there was an ambulance with its lights and sirens blaring en route to Suburban Hospital...stuck behind so many cars with nowhere to pull over.

Guess what, with 2 packed lanes southbound, and two pack lanes northbound, there was no where to move out of the way. Without a doubt there will be delays getting to the hospital. Are the cars supposed to ride over the posts into the bike lane? Or the ambulance? This is not a scenic bike route, but a commuter artery and emergency vehicle artery (e.g., fire stations and the B-CC rescue squad) hours each day.
I wonder how long until one needs to study the life and death impact of those two clogged lanes, on emergencies.

I just drove down the entirety of OGR. There was not one bike on OGR using those lanes, not surprising due to heavy rain today. The traffic was not good and I think that these types of changes to transportation that impact so many people should be up to a vote on how people would like to utilize tax payer funded roads. Off of this road are 2 merges onto interstate highways, NIH and a major thoroughfare to downtown Bethesda with delivery and semi trucks and as a previous poster stated, a hospital. With 2 lanes now gone, 33% of OGR is unusable for cars. We now have 33% of a major road underutilized. I'm sorry but let's look at the people who need to use these roads who arent in the "special" bike category. Older people and people with mobility issues, families, people commuting to work who have no access to a locker room or a shower, people running errands with multiple bags, people who don't have bikes, and every other person out there who needs to use a car for whatever reason for which a bike will not suffice.

It is a tragedy to lose people to bike accidents or to any kind of accidents. It does not mean that society has to overhaul everything to prevent it from ever happening again. In 2021 there were 597,000 bicycle related brain injuries from people falling off of bikes, not exclusive to car accidents. Maybe we should ban bikes - sounds like we'd save a lot of pain and suffering and visits to the ER.

Totally agree. No one wants anyone to get hurt but we have to face reality. Bikes and cars are not a good mix. Does it really matter whose fault that is? This is a case of caving to the minority at the expense of the majority. Especially since cyclists cannot start and stop the way cars can. Riding on the right side of large vehicles expecting to go straight when those vehicles may turn right is silly and to fault drivers for not having swivel heads because you cannot manage what is directly in front of you (at your personal choice) is truly ridiculous.

So you are saying that if a car and a cyclist are riding next to each other then:
- The car is in front of the cyclist so of course he should see it; but
- It is inconceivable to expect the driver to look to his/ her right before turning because that would require that his head be on a "swivel"
- The cyclist is somehow to be "faulted" for choosing to bike but the driver does not have the same responsibility for choosing to drive a two ton machine that could kill someone

Seems just a wee bit contradictory.

Why are you riding a bike next to a two ton machine that could kill someone?

Why are you driving a two ton machine that could kill someone next to people who are biking or walking?

Because the roads was built for cars.

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Why are you driving a two ton machine that could kill someone next to people who are biking or walking?

Because the roads was built for cars.

Unfortunately, this is a factual answer. I'm really glad the county and state are finally, slowly, moving towards roads built for everyone.

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Why are you driving a two ton machine that could kill someone next to people who are biking or walking?

Because the roads was built for cars.

Unfortunately, this is a factual answer. I'm really glad the county and state are finally, slowly, moving towards roads built for everyone.

Great. I for one cannot wait for the dedicated RipStick lanes. RipStick riders should also be provided a safe place to swivel. Next, we of course need dedicated roller blade lanes. Follow-ed by dedicated lanes for couples holding hands so that they can walk side-by-side safely. Need to have the roads built for everyone after all.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

^^^And speaking of downtown Bethesda, I really wish the county would stop cars from parking in the bike lanes. Those plastic bollards aren't doing the job.

Take the bus. Problem solved.

So if a car was parked in a lane on Old Georgetown during rush hour you would, instead of complaining about it, take the bus instead?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

^^^And speaking of downtown Bethesda, I really wish the county would stop cars from parking in the bike lanes. Those plastic bollards aren't doing the job.

Take the bus. Problem solved.

So if a car was parked in a lane on Old Georgetown during rush hour you would, instead of complaining about it, take the bus instead?

I wouldn’t be riding a bike on OG in the first place. It’s stupid and unsafe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

Hey, I’m a supporter of the bike lines on OGR but I was trying to help. If you are going to the old part of bethesda — eg woodmont — the best way is to get off OGR south of NIH and take the trolley trail over. If you are gojng yo metro or to bethesda row, get off OGR at green tree and take the grant road bike trail south from green tree. Those are both more direct than OGR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

Hey, I’m a supporter of the bike lines on OGR but I was trying to help. If you are going to the old part of bethesda — eg woodmont — the best way is to get off OGR south of NIH and take the trolley trail over. If you are gojng yo metro or to bethesda row, get off OGR at green tree and take the grant road bike trail south from green tree. Those are both more direct than OGR.

They are not going to listen to you because their cause is not to help cyclists find the safest and most direct route to get somewhere. There cause is only piss off drivers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

Hey, I’m a supporter of the bike lines on OGR but I was trying to help. If you are going to the old part of bethesda — eg woodmont — the best way is to get off OGR south of NIH and take the trolley trail over. If you are gojng yo metro or to bethesda row, get off OGR at green tree and take the grant road bike trail south from green tree. Those are both more direct than OGR.

That's the best way currently, because that section of OGR near downtown Bethesda is unsafe to bike on currently (though people do it, mostly on the sidewalk). There is nothing direct about the NIH trail between Suburban and Rugby Avenue, and it's also too narrow for walkers and dogs to share comfortably with bicyclists. Bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road would provide a better option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

Hey, I’m a supporter of the bike lines on OGR but I was trying to help. If you are going to the old part of bethesda — eg woodmont — the best way is to get off OGR south of NIH and take the trolley trail over. If you are gojng yo metro or to bethesda row, get off OGR at green tree and take the grant road bike trail south from green tree. Those are both more direct than OGR.

That's the best way currently, because that section of OGR near downtown Bethesda is unsafe to bike on currently (though people do it, mostly on the sidewalk). There is nothing direct about the NIH trail between Suburban and Rugby Avenue, and it's also too narrow for walkers and dogs to share comfortably with bicyclists. Bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road would provide a better option.

This is utter b.s and anyone with familiarity with the area or even a map knows it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

Hey, I’m a supporter of the bike lines on OGR but I was trying to help. If you are going to the old part of bethesda — eg woodmont — the best way is to get off OGR south of NIH and take the trolley trail over. If you are gojng yo metro or to bethesda row, get off OGR at green tree and take the grant road bike trail south from green tree. Those are both more direct than OGR.

That's the best way currently, because that section of OGR near downtown Bethesda is unsafe to bike on currently (though people do it, mostly on the sidewalk). There is nothing direct about the NIH trail between Suburban and Rugby Avenue, and it's also too narrow for walkers and dogs to share comfortably with bicyclists. Bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road would provide a better option.

This is utter b.s and anyone with familiarity with the area or even a map knows it.

You're really invested in hating on bicycles and the people who use them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

Hey, I’m a supporter of the bike lines on OGR but I was trying to help. If you are going to the old part of bethesda — eg woodmont — the best way is to get off OGR south of NIH and take the trolley trail over. If you are gojng yo metro or to bethesda row, get off OGR at green tree and take the grant road bike trail south from green tree. Those are both more direct than OGR.

That's the best way currently, because that section of OGR near downtown Bethesda is unsafe to bike on currently (though people do it, mostly on the sidewalk). There is nothing direct about the NIH trail between Suburban and Rugby Avenue, and it's also too narrow for walkers and dogs to share comfortably with bicyclists. Bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road would provide a better option.

By “too narrow to share comfortably” I think you meant to say you don’t like slowing down for other people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

Hey, I’m a supporter of the bike lines on OGR but I was trying to help. If you are going to the old part of bethesda — eg woodmont — the best way is to get off OGR south of NIH and take the trolley trail over. If you are gojng yo metro or to bethesda row, get off OGR at green tree and take the grant road bike trail south from green tree. Those are both more direct than OGR.

That's the best way currently, because that section of OGR near downtown Bethesda is unsafe to bike on currently (though people do it, mostly on the sidewalk). There is nothing direct about the NIH trail between Suburban and Rugby Avenue, and it's also too narrow for walkers and dogs to share comfortably with bicyclists. Bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road would provide a better option.

By “too narrow to share comfortably” I think you meant to say you don’t like slowing down for other people.

Have you been on the trail? It's six feet wide, maybe. A standard sidewalk. Not even wide enough for groups of people walking side by side, or people with multiple dogs, let alone bicyclists too, at any speed. Take a break from your anti-"cyclist" bigotry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it not on Wisconsin?

Agreed, Wisconsin/Rockville Pike also needs bike lanes. In addition, the bike lanes on Old Georgetown should go all the way into downtown Bethesda.

You dna hop onto the existing bike lane at the trolley trail south of NIH or the grant road bike path of you’re going to the newer part of bethesda.

I really wish people would stop with the Trolley Trail. If I'm on a bike, and the Trolley Trail can reasonably get me where I want to go, then I take the Trolley Trail. If it can't, then I take a different route. It's the same decision-making process as when I'm driving. If I'm going from downtown Bethesda to Rockledge, for example, I am not going to take the Trolley Trail, because it won't get me there. You know what will get me there? Old Georgetown Road.

Hey, I’m a supporter of the bike lines on OGR but I was trying to help. If you are going to the old part of bethesda — eg woodmont — the best way is to get off OGR south of NIH and take the trolley trail over. If you are gojng yo metro or to bethesda row, get off OGR at green tree and take the grant road bike trail south from green tree. Those are both more direct than OGR.

That's the best way currently, because that section of OGR near downtown Bethesda is unsafe to bike on currently (though people do it, mostly on the sidewalk). There is nothing direct about the NIH trail between Suburban and Rugby Avenue, and it's also too narrow for walkers and dogs to share comfortably with bicyclists. Bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road would provide a better option.

By “too narrow to share comfortably” I think you meant to say you don’t like slowing down for other people.

Have you been on the trail? It's six feet wide, maybe. A standard sidewalk. Not even wide enough for groups of people walking side by side, or people with multiple dogs, let alone bicyclists too, at any speed. Take a break from your anti-"cyclist" bigotry.

It’s fine. It sounds like you have an expectation of going fast all the time without stopping. That’s not how transportation works around here. Sometimes you have to slow down and sometimes you have to wait your turn.