Care manager at children’s shared details of child’s ER visit with school

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

OMG...I challenged your thinking and now you wanna kick me off of my own thread...lmao. Too funny

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Anonymous wrote:Children's ED has a way to flag patients that they believe may not provide appropriate follow up care in cases where they deem it necessary. In your case, you probably didn't leave a primary pediatrician's name, or they called that doctor and they said you were no longer a patient, or they couldn't reach that doctor; as a result, they used this alternate means of follow up. In this context, the school nurse is considered part of your care team. FWIW whether it's because you're a frequent flyer or because of your lack of a primary care doctor or something else, CNMC is concerned about your children and acted on that concern to avoid a child falling through the cracks. You may not like that this happened to you, but this kind of process saves kids lives. I will also say with your no diagnosis from one incident, etc comment that the hospital may have been concerned that you're in denial about your kid's medical condition, which would absolutely trigger this kind of follow up.

Disagree. The Childrens ER can do their own follow up. If there are actual concerns about abuse then call CFSA not school. The school is not part of my child’s medical team, period.

They are when you sign the form consenting to their notification like OP did.

well apparently there was no opt out on the form. and it goes against my settled expectations as a consumer so I would expect it to be more prominent a consent form.

You can cross out what you don’t agree with. Or are you expecting an opt out line after every sentence on a consent form?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

This is the OP, thank you so much for the support...I really do appreciate it🙂

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Anonymous wrote:Children's ED has a way to flag patients that they believe may not provide appropriate follow up care in cases where they deem it necessary. In your case, you probably didn't leave a primary pediatrician's name, or they called that doctor and they said you were no longer a patient, or they couldn't reach that doctor; as a result, they used this alternate means of follow up. In this context, the school nurse is considered part of your care team. FWIW whether it's because you're a frequent flyer or because of your lack of a primary care doctor or something else, CNMC is concerned about your children and acted on that concern to avoid a child falling through the cracks. You may not like that this happened to you, but this kind of process saves kids lives. I will also say with your no diagnosis from one incident, etc comment that the hospital may have been concerned that you're in denial about your kid's medical condition, which would absolutely trigger this kind of follow up.

Disagree. The Childrens ER can do their own follow up. If there are actual concerns about abuse then call CFSA not school. The school is not part of my child’s medical team, period.

They are when you sign the form consenting to their notification like OP did.

well apparently there was no opt out on the form. and it goes against my settled expectations as a consumer so I would expect it to be more prominent a consent form.

You can cross out what you don’t agree with. Or are you expecting an opt out line after every sentence on a consent form?

I’m not a HIPAA lawyer but I think there’s likely a good chance that a specific disclosure like this needs to be opt-in not hidden. Plus we don’t know what the consent actually said. If it just vaguely said “any member of your child’s care team” that does NOT give consent to disclosure to any random medical professional who knows your child.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

This is the OP, thank you so much for the support...I really do appreciate it🙂

you’re welcome! I am glad you are shaking the tree on this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

Not PP, but what would you complain about? Are you going to call the Children’s Hospital ombudsman and say that you heard from a stranger on the internet that the hospital can contact your kid’s school if you sign a form saying they can do that?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

Not PP, but what would you complain about? Are you going to call the Children’s Hospital ombudsman and say that you heard from a stranger on the internet that the hospital can contact your kid’s school if you sign a form saying they can do that?

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

Not PP, but what would you complain about? Are you going to call the Children’s Hospital ombudsman and say that you heard from a stranger on the internet that the hospital can contact your kid’s school if you sign a form saying they can do that?

Yep.

When you call, be sure to ask if they do that for families who haven’t been flagged for possible child abuse/Munchausen.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

Not PP, but what would you complain about? Are you going to call the Children’s Hospital ombudsman and say that you heard from a stranger on the internet that the hospital can contact your kid’s school if you sign a form saying they can do that?

Yep.

When you call, be sure to ask if they do that for families who haven’t been flagged for possible child abuse/Munchausen.

That of course is a completely separate type of disclosure authorization than the one I and OP are complaining about. These records were shared apparently under the guise of an overly broad interpretation of “care team.” Not to report suspected abuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

OMG...I challenged your thinking and now you wanna kick me off of my own thread...lmao. Too funny

No, I'm saying you seem upset. And I don't know how it is good for any human to argue with anonymous people on the internet. I can't "kick you off your own thread." The fact that you are invested here seems to suggest....idk, well, why are you so upset?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I have two children, ages 9 and 5. We have been to the ER literally never. Beyond annual checkups, we have called their pediatricians advice nurse countless times, had televisits if they need a prescription, gone to urgent care once in a case when my son would not stop vomiting and once when my other son had a bad cut. Urgent care is the place for MANY of the items on your list, others probably required a call to the doc.

The ER is for ACUTE emergencies: that means that they would lose their life or the use of some part of their body unless their was an intervention.

I agree that your family is on a CFSA list and you may suspect that and that's why you are freaking out.

My ped didn’t have a nurse line or telehealth. And urgent cares are not open at 1am. I am the PP who took my DS to the ER 9 times (but zero in the past 4 years). I never had anyone suggesting any of those visits were inappropriate. The one time I was able to get my ped on the phone (huge knot on head from falling down) she was able to counsel me to stay home. But in the middle of the night when kid cannot breathe? Yes, ER.

Not PP, but you described taking your child to the ER for stitches, and multiple seizures. Those are ER situations.

I just can’t wrap my head around OP thinking that “waking up on a Saturday with a 102 degree fever” is something where you would pack your kid in the car and go sit in the ER for 9 hours. Like…give them some Advil and tuck them into bed, ffs. Call the doctor if the fever isn’t gone in a few days. But the ER? That’s nuts.

OP here...and what if it was a preemie that had the 102 fever? Or a child that had a compromised immune system? Or a child that had recently gotten over a severe blood infection? Can you wrap your head around any of those scenarios? Probably not because (luckily for you) it sounds like you've never experienced any of them. Look...you handled you situation your way, and we handled ours our way. I wouldn't dare call you a slacker parent for giving your child a dose of motrin and sending him back to bed, so why do you feel the need to be so critical of us for doing what we felt was in the best interest of our child given the circumstances?

Does the kid with compromised immune system have a plan of care for fever? Is it to pack up and go to the ER? What about follow up instructions for the blood infection? It seems surprising to me that the plan of care would be step 1 - go to ER.

Sure, you don’t owe us all the medical history on your kids. But if they do have complex medical history your posts are so misleading it seems intentional (or trolling, maybe?). You didn’t say, I have a kid with a compromised immune system so we’ve been advised my medical team to go to ER if any sign of concern. You said kid woke up with a fever on the weekend so we went to the ER. Do you see how one of those things make you sound like a reasonable responsible parent and the other makes you sound bat shit crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

seems like sockpuppetry.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

Not PP, but what would you complain about? Are you going to call the Children’s Hospital ombudsman and say that you heard from a stranger on the internet that the hospital can contact your kid’s school if you sign a form saying they can do that?

Yep.

When you call, be sure to ask if they do that for families who haven’t been flagged for possible child abuse/Munchausen.

OP here...actually, I think that would be munchausen by proxy #You'reWelcome

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

Not PP, but what would you complain about? Are you going to call the Children’s Hospital ombudsman and say that you heard from a stranger on the internet that the hospital can contact your kid’s school if you sign a form saying they can do that?

Yep.

When you call, be sure to ask if they do that for families who haven’t been flagged for possible child abuse/Munchausen.

OP here...actually, I think that would be munchausen by proxy #You'reWelcome

Are you...admitting to that? You aren't coming off as intelligent, stable, and insightful.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you realize you can leave this thread, right? It isn't giving you the answers/confirmation that you want.

Sorry you did not succeed in bullying OP. OP has done a useful service here and I may follow her lead by complaining to the Children’s omsbud.

Not PP, but what would you complain about? Are you going to call the Children’s Hospital ombudsman and say that you heard from a stranger on the internet that the hospital can contact your kid’s school if you sign a form saying they can do that?

Yep.

When you call, be sure to ask if they do that for families who haven’t been flagged for possible child abuse/Munchausen.

OP here...actually, I think that would be munchausen by proxy #You'reWelcome

Oh, I know. I have a relative who has Munchausen, and has also inflicted Munchausen-by-proxy on her child, and that’s why your post has my hackles up. Because you sound so incredibly similar to her.