Would you send an atheist/non religious student to a Catholic university?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the birth control issue for Boston College:

1) my RX for birth control was from my doctors at home
2) BC doesn't have a pharmacy - I had to get RX filled at CVS (regardless whether it was birth control or not)
3) if I hadn't already had an RX for birth control, there was an office at Cleveland Circle where I could have seen a provider to get an RX (and again - to fill at CVS)
4) it never occurred to me to go to the school doctor for a birth control RX
5) oddly enough - I don't remember ever going to the doctor at BC for anything (I guess I was lucky to just have viruses)

Funny how facts deflate the arguments. Who would want their DD to have their primary health care and gyn checks by the university health office? If that's even possible.
My kid will walk across the street to the CVS for her minor minute clinic health issues, flu, shots, etc and go to the CVS pharmacy to pick up her birth control pills.

You know, it's funny how people like you can't fathom that other people don't have those options. I didn't in college. Where did I get my OB, BC, as well as some other basic medical care? MY COLLEGE HEALTH OFFICE. This was a result of a number of factors, including not wanting my parents to know about my BC choices and I had zero money. It was a lifesaver and I cannot imagine how difficult it would have been for me if I didn't have that option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, this is one of the more bizarre thread derailments I've seen and that is saying something.

You should have seen it before Jeff deleted a bunch of comments. The thread is a disaster and should be locked.

So there were deleted posts? The current posts and bickering about BC etc. is pretty pathetic.

Women's rights are "pathetic"?

Yes, to some. And that's part of the problem with considering a college that views it htat way, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't rocket science, if you are against the views/teachings and doctrine of an organization than don't participate in it. There are plenty of good options elsewhere, they don't need to bend to your howling and screeching.

I'm not asking them to bend. I simply said why it's off my kids' list but yours were free to go. Then, was personally attacked for that statement by the upstanding religious demographic on this board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't rocket science, if you are against the views/teachings and doctrine of an organization than don't participate in it. There are plenty of good options elsewhere, they don't need to bend to your howling and screeching.

But at BC there was never any expressed view or teaching about this that I heard my entire time there. This is such a non-issue. This topic NEVER came up in 4 years . Free services available in Cleveland Park for anything related to gyn. People are howling and screeching about something that isn't even a problem - they are just making one up based on their own views of the Catholic church.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the birth control issue for Boston College:

1) my RX for birth control was from my doctors at home
2) BC doesn't have a pharmacy - I had to get RX filled at CVS (regardless whether it was birth control or not)
3) if I hadn't already had an RX for birth control, there was an office at Cleveland Circle where I could have seen a provider to get an RX (and again - to fill at CVS)
4) it never occurred to me to go to the school doctor for a birth control RX
5) oddly enough - I don't remember ever going to the doctor at BC for anything (I guess I was lucky to just have viruses)

Funny how facts deflate the arguments. Who would want their DD to have their primary health care and gyn checks by the university health office? If that's even possible.
My kid will walk across the street to the CVS for her minor minute clinic health issues, flu, shots, etc and go to the CVS pharmacy to pick up her birth control pills.

You know, it's funny how people like you can't fathom that other people don't have those options. I didn't in college. Where did I get my OB, BC, as well as some other basic medical care? MY COLLEGE HEALTH OFFICE. This was a result of a number of factors, including not wanting my parents to know about my BC choices and I had zero money. It was a lifesaver and I cannot imagine how difficult it would have been for me if I didn't have that option.

+1

I used the student health center routinely during my time in college. I had no other options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't rocket science, if you are against the views/teachings and doctrine of an organization than don't participate in it. There are plenty of good options elsewhere, they don't need to bend to your howling and screeching.

But at BC there was never any expressed view or teaching about this that I heard my entire time there. This is such a non-issue. This topic NEVER came up in 4 years . Free services available in Cleveland Park for anything related to gyn. People are howling and screeching about something that isn't even a problem - they are just making one up based on their own views of the Catholic church.

I'm confused. Is BC representative of all Catholic universities?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't rocket science, if you are against the views/teachings and doctrine of an organization than don't participate in it. There are plenty of good options elsewhere, they don't need to bend to your howling and screeching.

I'm not asking them to bend. I simply said why it's off my kids' list but yours were free to go. Then, was personally attacked for that statement by the upstanding religious demographic on this board.

"upstanding"

That's one word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't rocket science, if you are against the views/teachings and doctrine of an organization than don't participate in it. There are plenty of good options elsewhere, they don't need to bend to your howling and screeching.

But at BC there was never any expressed view or teaching about this that I heard my entire time there. This is such a non-issue. This topic NEVER came up in 4 years . Free services available in Cleveland Park for anything related to gyn. People are howling and screeching about something that isn't even a problem - they are just making one up based on their own views of the Catholic church.

"It was never a problem for me therefore it was never a problem for anyone!!!"

worms for brains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't rocket science, if you are against the views/teachings and doctrine of an organization than don't participate in it. There are plenty of good options elsewhere, they don't need to bend to your howling and screeching.

I think most people are not "howling and screeching"

We have chosen not to look because of the affiliation

Easy peasy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't rocket science, if you are against the views/teachings and doctrine of an organization than don't participate in it. There are plenty of good options elsewhere, they don't need to bend to your howling and screeching.

I'm not asking them to bend. I simply said why it's off my kids' list but yours were free to go. Then, was personally attacked for that statement by the upstanding religious demographic on this board.

seems they may have been barred from posting if just for a short time

[Anonymous]

An increasingly progressive Jesuit University has a large Muslim prayer space and inaugurated it’s first woman President this month. She’s already reversed some of the old school rules. Both female and male students are hyped. Students are now allowed to have overnight guests. The previous President is a Jesuit and an amazing person. Also fairly progressive. He retired. Students gave him an incredible send off. They honor him with a meme account on social media.

Most students are not religious, but still visit the University Chapel because it’s beautiful. That being said, “Campus Ministry welcomes students of many different faith traditions as well as students of no faith tradition. We collaborate with students of the many faith-based student clubs, such as the Christian Fellowship, the Jewish Student Organization, the Muslim Student Association, and the Orthodox Christian Fellowship. Without question, one’s faith is a great gift of God that must be respected and nourished. We encourage students to learn more about their own faith tradition by examining its teachings and values in an academic yet very personal way. We work with individuals and student groups to offer Interfaith programming that help students learn from one another about their various traditions. We abide by the principles of religious freedom that protect the rights of individuals to practice their own religion and not to be unduly harassed by members of another religion. In this way, we wish to safeguard the freedom of all our students. We welcome all of our students and hope that the richness of spiritual and religious traditions is a blessing to all of us.”

As far as birth control, this school doesn’t provide condoms! I’m sure this will change soon, although campus is urban with access to everything. Most colleges offer Aetna for health insurance. Not sure if non catholic colleges offer birth control pills or Plan B through the health office. Student government is very active, well supported, and have accomplished quite a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An increasingly progressive Jesuit University has a large Muslim prayer space and inaugurated it’s first woman President this month. She’s already reversed some of the old school rules. Both female and male students are hyped. Students are now allowed to have overnight guests. The previous President is a Jesuit and an amazing person. Also fairly progressive. He retired. Students gave him an incredible send off. They honor him with a meme account on social media.

Most students are not religious, but still visit the University Chapel because it’s beautiful. That being said, “Campus Ministry welcomes students of many different faith traditions as well as students of no faith tradition. We collaborate with students of the many faith-based student clubs, such as the Christian Fellowship, the Jewish Student Organization, the Muslim Student Association, and the Orthodox Christian Fellowship. Without question, one’s faith is a great gift of God that must be respected and nourished. We encourage students to learn more about their own faith tradition by examining its teachings and values in an academic yet very personal way. We work with individuals and student groups to offer Interfaith programming that help students learn from one another about their various traditions. We abide by the principles of religious freedom that protect the rights of individuals to practice their own religion and not to be unduly harassed by members of another religion. In this way, we wish to safeguard the freedom of all our students. We welcome all of our students and hope that the richness of spiritual and religious traditions is a blessing to all of us.”

As far as birth control, this school doesn’t provide condoms! I’m sure this will change soon, although campus is urban with access to everything. Most colleges offer Aetna for health insurance. Not sure if non catholic colleges offer birth control pills or Plan B through the health office. Student government is very active, well supported, and have accomplished quite a lot.

Rockhurst?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An increasingly progressive Jesuit University has a large Muslim prayer space and inaugurated it’s first woman President this month. She’s already reversed some of the old school rules. Both female and male students are hyped. Students are now allowed to have overnight guests. The previous President is a Jesuit and an amazing person. Also fairly progressive. He retired. Students gave him an incredible send off. They honor him with a meme account on social media.

Most students are not religious, but still visit the University Chapel because it’s beautiful. That being said, “Campus Ministry welcomes students of many different faith traditions as well as students of no faith tradition. We collaborate with students of the many faith-based student clubs, such as the Christian Fellowship, the Jewish Student Organization, the Muslim Student Association, and the Orthodox Christian Fellowship. Without question, one’s faith is a great gift of God that must be respected and nourished. We encourage students to learn more about their own faith tradition by examining its teachings and values in an academic yet very personal way. We work with individuals and student groups to offer Interfaith programming that help students learn from one another about their various traditions. We abide by the principles of religious freedom that protect the rights of individuals to practice their own religion and not to be unduly harassed by members of another religion. In this way, we wish to safeguard the freedom of all our students. We welcome all of our students and hope that the richness of spiritual and religious traditions is a blessing to all of us.”

As far as birth control, this school doesn’t provide condoms! I’m sure this will change soon, although campus is urban with access to everything. Most colleges offer Aetna for health insurance. Not sure if non catholic colleges offer birth control pills or Plan B through the health office. Student government is very active, well supported, and have accomplished quite a lot.

It is not progressive to allow others freedom of religion. It’s also NOT PROGRESSIVE to have a women president.

Birth control - yes, plan b no

https://www.aetnastudenthealth.com/schools/2021_Advanced_Control_Plan_Aetna_.pdf

Here is an example how other schools deal with it… free condoms, tampons, dental dams, EDUCATION , etc.

https://www.bu.edu/cgsa/resources/health-2/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure when it's a T20 like Notre Dame with superb student care or even little lesser but great schools like Georgetown or Boston College.

My kid is at ND. Not attending mass.
Doing great so far. Kid is also a minority.

Do people really think ND is better than Georgetown (other than for sports)? I hate Georgetown and even I find this perplexing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't rocket science, if you are against the views/teachings and doctrine of an organization than don't participate in it. There are plenty of good options elsewhere, they don't need to bend to your howling and screeching.

But at BC there was never any expressed view or teaching about this that I heard my entire time there. This is such a non-issue. This topic NEVER came up in 4 years . Free services available in Cleveland Park for anything related to gyn. People are howling and screeching about something that isn't even a problem - they are just making one up based on their own views of the Catholic church.

You don’t think it’s a big deal that women can’t get standard health care coverage under BC’s student plan?