Arlington or Montgomery County? [VA/MD]

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Anonymous wrote:OP VA has Youngkin you do not want Virginia.

This PP is making the excellent point that you are hitching yourself to a broader state and should think about that, too. Do you want to be tethered, albeit at a distance, to Baltimore or Richmond? MD state laws apply even to the princes and princesses in Bethesda.

—— signed, MD resident living outside the beltway

Please share which schools you graduated from? I'd like to know which ones to avoid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP VA has Youngkin you do not want Virginia.

This PP is making the excellent point that you are hitching yourself to a broader state and should think about that, too. Do you want to be tethered, albeit at a distance, to Baltimore or Richmond? MD state laws apply even to the princes and princesses in Bethesda.

—— signed, MD resident living outside the beltway

Please share which schools you graduated from? I'd like to know which ones to avoid.

Ah, nothing like the capital city of Baltimore!

But yes, I would much rather tie myself to ANNAPOLIS than Richmond.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

Hard to believe Bethesda is old wealth, or it wouldn't have such a reputation, even among people in its own state, for obnoxious residents flaunting their money.

Most homes are modest in Bethesda/CC, expensive, but not over the top. There are some flashy neighborhoods but most homes on River Rd/Mass Ave corridor are quite modest.

lI would say Great Falls and Potomac is more the "flaunt it" type.

+1 historically, Bethesda (and Chevy Chase) is where the old money lived. The wealthy in NoVA is much more recent relative to Bethesda area.

A lot of jobs have moved over to NoVa area, so you have more transplants there. The median age in Arlington is younger than the median age in Bethesda (and Chevy Chase).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

The "weird vibe" was the fact that the purpling of the state was an illusion. Youngkin represents what NoVa is really about. The region is filled with transplants who intentionally chose to live on the side that was more aligned with the right, though they claim it is for taxes, commute, schools, or some other region.

The recent new anti LGBTQ policies for schools should be a loud and clear signal what choosing Virginia means.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

The "weird vibe" was the fact that the purpling of the state was an illusion. Youngkin represents what NoVa is really about. The region is filled with transplants who intentionally chose to live on the side that was more aligned with the right, though they claim it is for taxes, commute, schools, or some other region.

The recent new anti LGBTQ policies for schools should be a loud and clear signal what choosing Virginia means.

spot on

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

The "weird vibe" was the fact that the purpling of the state was an illusion. Youngkin represents what NoVa is really about. The region is filled with transplants who intentionally chose to live on the side that was more aligned with the right, though they claim it is for taxes, commute, schools, or some other region.

The recent new anti LGBTQ policies for schools should be a loud and clear signal what choosing Virginia means.

Every time I speak with someone who lives in Virginia they always mention their low income tax and tries to tell me I am dumb for living in MD. Moving to VA would have saved me over 25k in income taxes last year. I would gladly pay 25k a year to never live in VA again. It's like they try and "sell" NoVA. Bizarre

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

The "weird vibe" was the fact that the purpling of the state was an illusion. Youngkin represents what NoVa is really about. The region is filled with transplants who intentionally chose to live on the side that was more aligned with the right, though they claim it is for taxes, commute, schools, or some other region.

The recent new anti LGBTQ policies for schools should be a loud and clear signal what choosing Virginia means.

Every time I speak with someone who lives in Virginia they always mention their low income tax and tries to tell me I am dumb for living in MD. Moving to VA would have saved me over 25k in income taxes last year. I would gladly pay 25k a year to never live in VA again. It's like they try and "sell" NoVA. Bizarre

EVERY TIME you speak with someone who lives in Virginia they ALWAYS mention their low income tax? and then they try to tell you you're dumb? You must have some really lame dinner parties, PP. The only place these conversations are happening are inside your dreams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

The "weird vibe" was the fact that the purpling of the state was an illusion. Youngkin represents what NoVa is really about. The region is filled with transplants who intentionally chose to live on the side that was more aligned with the right, though they claim it is for taxes, commute, schools, or some other region.

The recent new anti LGBTQ policies for schools should be a loud and clear signal what choosing Virginia means.

Every time I speak with someone who lives in Virginia they always mention their low income tax and tries to tell me I am dumb for living in MD. Moving to VA would have saved me over 25k in income taxes last year. I would gladly pay 25k a year to never live in VA again. It's like they try and "sell" NoVA. Bizarre

EVERY TIME you speak with someone who lives in Virginia they ALWAYS mention their low income tax? and then they try to tell you you're dumb? You must have some really lame dinner parties, PP. The only place these conversations are happening are inside your dreams.

I work in the investment world and it happens weekly..

[Anonymous]

Montgomery Count is good for it’s leftist economic policies that lead to good public schools, less toll roads, and good public infrastructure in general. I wish it wasn’t so full of UMC white people who do the inverse of “own the libs” by acting hysterical during Covid and pushing for fringe social issues that a lot of the working class black and Latino voters they claim to care about are not on board with at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

Hard to believe Bethesda is old wealth, or it wouldn't have such a reputation, even among people in its own state, for obnoxious residents flaunting their money.

Most homes are modest in Bethesda/CC, expensive, but not over the top. There are some flashy neighborhoods but most homes on River Rd/Mass Ave corridor are quite modest.

lI would say Great Falls and Potomac is more the "flaunt it" type.

+1 historically, Bethesda (and Chevy Chase) is where the old money lived. The wealthy in NoVA is much more recent relative to Bethesda area.

A lot of jobs have moved over to NoVa area, so you have more transplants there. The median age in Arlington is younger than the median age in Bethesda (and Chevy Chase).

DC is not really an old money town. Old money is generational wealth passed down from business tycoons like the DuPonts or the Mellons.

It is true that the MoCo suburbs were the wealthiest in the area for many years. However, NoVa has been outpacing MoCo economically for many decades, so the "old money" in MoCo isn't so much generational wealth as much as just more old people with (or who had) money. Because more younger people who are affluent now live in NoVa, it's "new money" compared to MoCo, but it's still not the type of divide you might find in other parts of the country.

Bethesda and CC have some very pretty neighborhoods. But you couldn't pay me to live there now, because they are part of a county that has been declining for a long time and stands to continue to do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

The "weird vibe" was the fact that the purpling of the state was an illusion. Youngkin represents what NoVa is really about. The region is filled with transplants who intentionally chose to live on the side that was more aligned with the right, though they claim it is for taxes, commute, schools, or some other region.

The recent new anti LGBTQ policies for schools should be a loud and clear signal what choosing Virginia means.

Every time I speak with someone who lives in Virginia they always mention their low income tax and tries to tell me I am dumb for living in MD. Moving to VA would have saved me over 25k in income taxes last year. I would gladly pay 25k a year to never live in VA again. It's like they try and "sell" NoVA. Bizarre

EVERY TIME you speak with someone who lives in Virginia they ALWAYS mention their low income tax? and then they try to tell you you're dumb? You must have some really lame dinner parties, PP. The only place these conversations are happening are inside your dreams.

I work in the investment world and it happens weekly..

This topic comes up in this forum A LOT, usually by a VA booster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

Hard to believe Bethesda is old wealth, or it wouldn't have such a reputation, even among people in its own state, for obnoxious residents flaunting their money.

Most homes are modest in Bethesda/CC, expensive, but not over the top. There are some flashy neighborhoods but most homes on River Rd/Mass Ave corridor are quite modest.

lI would say Great Falls and Potomac is more the "flaunt it" type.

+1 historically, Bethesda (and Chevy Chase) is where the old money lived. The wealthy in NoVA is much more recent relative to Bethesda area.

A lot of jobs have moved over to NoVa area, so you have more transplants there. The median age in Arlington is younger than the median age in Bethesda (and Chevy Chase).

DC is not really an old money town. Old money is generational wealth passed down from business tycoons like the DuPonts or the Mellons.

It is true that the MoCo suburbs were the wealthiest in the area for many years. However, NoVa has been outpacing MoCo economically for many decades, so the "old money" in MoCo isn't so much generational wealth as much as just more old people with (or who had) money. Because more younger people who are affluent now live in NoVa, it's "new money" compared to MoCo, but it's still not the type of divide you might find in other parts of the country.

Bethesda and CC have some very pretty neighborhoods. But you couldn't pay me to live there now, because they are part of a county that has been declining for a long time and stands to continue to do so.

They are declining so much that house prices are ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Count is good for it’s leftist economic policies that lead to good public schools, less toll roads, and good public infrastructure in general. I wish it wasn’t so full of UMC white people who do the inverse of “own the libs” by acting hysterical during Covid and pushing for fringe social issues that a lot of the working class black and Latino voters they claim to care about are not on board with at all.

true.

- non white UMC family who grew up lower/middle class

TP/SS is the worst for that, and they seem to dominate local politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

Hard to believe Bethesda is old wealth, or it wouldn't have such a reputation, even among people in its own state, for obnoxious residents flaunting their money.

Most homes are modest in Bethesda/CC, expensive, but not over the top. There are some flashy neighborhoods but most homes on River Rd/Mass Ave corridor are quite modest.

lI would say Great Falls and Potomac is more the "flaunt it" type.

+1 historically, Bethesda (and Chevy Chase) is where the old money lived. The wealthy in NoVA is much more recent relative to Bethesda area.

A lot of jobs have moved over to NoVa area, so you have more transplants there. The median age in Arlington is younger than the median age in Bethesda (and Chevy Chase).

DC is not really an old money town. Old money is generational wealth passed down from business tycoons like the DuPonts or the Mellons.

It is true that the MoCo suburbs were the wealthiest in the area for many years. However, NoVa has been outpacing MoCo economically for many decades, so the "old money" in MoCo isn't so much generational wealth as much as just more old people with (or who had) money. Because more younger people who are affluent now live in NoVa, it's "new money" compared to MoCo, but it's still not the type of divide you might find in other parts of the country.

Bethesda and CC have some very pretty neighborhoods. But you couldn't pay me to live there now, because they are part of a county that has been declining for a long time and stands to continue to do so.

They are declining so much that house prices are ridiculous.

LOl right? Bethesda has some major headquarters/employers in it's downtown. It has gone through a major transformation and still growing. Home prices are stable and there is little to no supply. It provides major arteries into downtown DC without having to cross a bridge. Some of the best golf courses/parks in the area. Some of the best schools (public and private) in the state/area. But sure, it's dying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda and have lived in Arlington, DC and back to Bethesda. You could not pay me to move back to VA, regardless of the tax benefit. Weird vibe. It's like they all try to prove something and many are transplants. Many of my neighbors work in Tysons, McLean or Arlington and still decide to live in Bethesda..myself included.

There are nice benefits - great trails, parks, etc but for whatever reason, it just feels stale and transitory compared to Bethesda.

seems to be new money strivers vs old wealth

Hard to believe Bethesda is old wealth, or it wouldn't have such a reputation, even among people in its own state, for obnoxious residents flaunting their money.

Most homes are modest in Bethesda/CC, expensive, but not over the top. There are some flashy neighborhoods but most homes on River Rd/Mass Ave corridor are quite modest.

lI would say Great Falls and Potomac is more the "flaunt it" type.

+1 historically, Bethesda (and Chevy Chase) is where the old money lived. The wealthy in NoVA is much more recent relative to Bethesda area.

A lot of jobs have moved over to NoVa area, so you have more transplants there. The median age in Arlington is younger than the median age in Bethesda (and Chevy Chase).

DC is not really an old money town. Old money is generational wealth passed down from business tycoons like the DuPonts or the Mellons.

It is true that the MoCo suburbs were the wealthiest in the area for many years. However, NoVa has been outpacing MoCo economically for many decades, so the "old money" in MoCo isn't so much generational wealth as much as just more old people with (or who had) money. Because more younger people who are affluent now live in NoVa, it's "new money" compared to MoCo, but it's still not the type of divide you might find in other parts of the country.

Bethesda and CC have some very pretty neighborhoods. But you couldn't pay me to live there now, because they are part of a county that has been declining for a long time and stands to continue to do so.

They are declining so much that house prices are ridiculous.

LOl right? Bethesda has some major headquarters/employers in it's downtown. It has gone through a major transformation and still growing. Home prices are stable and there is little to no supply. It provides major arteries into downtown DC without having to cross a bridge. Some of the best golf courses/parks in the area. Some of the best schools (public and private) in the state/area. But sure, it's dying.

A declining county have some nice areas; indeed, the decline may make the remaining decent areas more desirable for some period of time. But then you have a smaller base propping up everything else, which eventually takes its toll.