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Anonymous wrote:They also have a P2P with MLS Next but how many players did they pick up from MLS next vs ECNL for the 2011.

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Anonymous wrote:2011B VDA had 5 move to DCU.

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Anonymous wrote:MEG (MLSN, ECNL, GA)

I’d ditch ECNL (at least for Boys).

It’s you again- isn’t it. Enough already about the ECNL not for boys act. Plenty of strong ECNL boys teams who can whoop MLS next teams. Just as many ECNL boys being recruited as well. Tirdd
of your continued droning on about MLs Next- Achilles and Alexandria anybody? In VA the MLS next teams are a far cry below the ECNL teams. I bet pipeline could also beat Bethesda. There is just as wide variation in MLS Next as ECNL. So if we are going to make a statement make it accurate…The only notch above ECNL for college recruiting is Academy. Next and ECNL both have solid player pools with both good and average players…

Keep on whipping that tired mule. The level of competition is 5x that of ECNL. How many MLS age group academies do ECNL teams square off against? Zero.

What do Achilles and Alexandria have to do with this discussion? This isn’t a chest pump about any local team. The fact remains almost most top teams in every state are MLS affiliated. ECNL had great run, but it’s just not as strong.

This is such a silly comment. Plenty of ECNL boys are moving to MLS academies and getting scouted/signed at D1 schools...stop being so negative. The point of playing in these hella expensive and time consuming leagues is to provide looks for our children...ECNL still (obviously) provides that. If you are good enough you are good enough...regardless of where you play. If you are counting on the league to be the thing that gets your kid over the line they they must not be that talented nor work hard enough outside the pitch.

Until top players have to leave ECNL to get scouted by academies and top colleges it will continue to be relevant.

Like VDA, ECNL clubs with formal relationships with DCU will regularly get kids placed in the academy. I think that’s part of the terms of their agreement.

This is correct, DCU has partnerships with a bunch of local ECNL clubs in the area.

None of the MLSNext clubs have a P2P relationship with DCU. But they do watch the local MLSNext games regularly. That’s the point of P2P, to scout non-MLSNext clubs.

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I stand corrected.

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ODP is dead. If your kid's goal is to play in college or make an academy, use your time and money on something else. No serious player with serious prospects is doing ODP anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is dead. If your kid's goal is to play in college or make an academy, use your time and money on something else. No serious player with serious prospects is doing ODP anymore.

My kid, now a U14 at tryouts this year "all the good players are gone".

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is dead. If your kid's goal is to play in college or make an academy, use your time and money on something else. No serious player with serious prospects is doing ODP anymore.

My kid, now a U14 at tryouts this year "all the good players are gone".

I have a U14 ECNL and U11 Pre-ECNL...none of the kids on those teams are doing ODP. I would be shocked if any of the top players are doing ODP anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is dead. If your kid's goal is to play in college or make an academy, use your time and money on something else. No serious player with serious prospects is doing ODP anymore.

My kid, now a U14 at tryouts this year "all the good players are gone".

I have a U14 ECNL and U11 Pre-ECNL...none of the kids on those teams are doing ODP. I would be shocked if any of the top players are doing ODP anywhere.

The only places where ODP has kept its value is Hawaii, Alaska, and some of the smaller population landlocked states where getting the best talent together in a resourceful way is a challenge.

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is dead. If your kid's goal is to play in college or make an academy, use your time and money on something else. No serious player with serious prospects is doing ODP anymore.

My kid, now a U14 at tryouts this year "all the good players are gone".

I have a U14 ECNL and U11 Pre-ECNL...none of the kids on those teams are doing ODP. I would be shocked if any of the top players are doing ODP anywhere.

Some kids on top teams still doing to get more playing time.

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is dead. If your kid's goal is to play in college or make an academy, use your time and money on something else. No serious player with serious prospects is doing ODP anymore.

I love it when players from this area don't make it past state selection in ODP and now parents say, nobody good does ODP.

Its ironic that the ODP national team selections are not filled with good players at all:
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/us-youth-socc...tional-team-rosters/

All these 2006/2007 players are in the USYNT pool/ MLS academies or already heading off overseas to play or D1 --I'd say they all have serious prospects. ODP Regional and Nation selection is the hardest selection to make...so parents clapback with sour grape generalizations.

But I agree, ODP is inconvenient and it is hard to participate in after the state selection. The odds to making the regional team are very small. Lastly, less players participate in it as they age due to competing demands. But I wouldn't say unserious players with no prospects participate in it are the only one participating. My kid did not make it past state either, but its disingenuous to throw out the whole program. And I would look stupid by saying, my kid didn't make it to the next level because they are only accepting terrible players.

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I'd say it's good extra practice up until state. Not worth it when you start to pay to travel.

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is dead. If your kid's goal is to play in college or make an academy, use your time and money on something else. No serious player with serious prospects is doing ODP anymore.

I love it when players from this area don't make it past state selection in ODP and now parents say, nobody good does ODP.

Its ironic that the ODP national team selections are not filled with good players at all:
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/us-youth-socc...tional-team-rosters/

All these 2006/2007 players are in the USYNT pool/ MLS academies or already heading off overseas to play or D1 --I'd say they all have serious prospects. ODP Regional and Nation selection is the hardest selection to make...so parents clapback with sour grape generalizations.

But I agree, ODP is inconvenient and it is hard to participate in after the state selection. The odds to making the regional team are very small. Lastly, less players participate in it as they age due to competing demands. But I wouldn't say unserious players with no prospects participate in it are the only one participating. My kid did not make it past state either, but its disingenuous to throw out the whole program. And I would look stupid by saying, my kid didn't make it to the next level because they are only accepting terrible players.

Lots of words written to imply something that didn't happen. My kids didn't waste time on ODP and neither did any of their teammates.

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is dead. If your kid's goal is to play in college or make an academy, use your time and money on something else. No serious player with serious prospects is doing ODP anymore.

My kid, now a U14 at tryouts this year "all the good players are gone".

I have a U14 ECNL and U11 Pre-ECNL...none of the kids on those teams are doing ODP. I would be shocked if any of the top players are doing ODP anywhere.

Some kids on top teams still doing to get more playing time.

There is a difference between some kids on top teams and top players. They don't always mean the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd say it's good extra practice up until state. Not worth it when you start to pay to travel.

And I'd say basically the same thing about Super Y.

If it's affordable and convenient for you, and your kid wants more structured soccer time, why not?

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ODP is poverty. If you have time, do it. It's literally extra practice, nothing more. It's fun to add to your DD/DS TDS profile too. Yah

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is poverty. If you have time, do it. It's literally extra practice, nothing more. It's fun to add to your DD/DS TDS profile too. Yah

That's all my family can afford to do, but we're just above the poverty level. Also, my uniform we received as a hand me down to save money. I think if the program cost $4000, then it would be better in your opinion... then players who can't afford all the pay-to-play options wouldn't be able to afford this either. My kid thinks it's great, why don't you look him in the eye and tell him it's for poverty kids.

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Anonymous wrote:ODP is poverty. If you have time, do it. It's literally extra practice, nothing more. It's fun to add to your DD/DS TDS profile too. Yah

That's all my family can afford to do, but we're just above the poverty level. Also, my uniform we received as a hand me down to save money. I think if the program cost $4000, then it would be better in your opinion... then players who can't afford all the pay-to-play options wouldn't be able to afford this either. My kid thinks it's great, why don't you look him in the eye and tell him it's for poverty kids.

Calling something 'poverty' is slang for it's junk, weak, irrelevant Cost means nothing and you know this, so climb down the pity horse and understand ODP is glorified practice. It's a mashing of weak teams with players who barely know each other. It's soccer and it's still fun, but some who've seen it done realize it's not worth time or energy (or injury risk for some) to play another meaningless game. If you and your kid like it, do it. But don't act like you're being attacked... take that that to the pol thread

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ODP is good for U9 (DODP?) and good for those who can make the training. Top players generally drop off around U12 or U13. VA ones players pool aren't great. State level still isn't that great but regional/ national are legit talent pool if your kid can make it. It's better in some area, just not great for VA at the older age group especially the drive to training on Sunday after their club game. It doesn't hurt and if your kid enjoys it, sure but it wont' make a huge difference vs training extra somewhere closer to home.