Inappropriate response from teachers at Elementary School Summer Program

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did send an email to the principal and notified him of our intention to withdraw DS from the summer school program with the rationale for our decision. We did not mention the two teachers laughing. DS was calming down as soon as DH got there. Therefore, of course DS and DH could observe the two teachers (one who guided DH into the classroom where DS was being contained) and the other that was in classroom watching DS while waiting for DH to show up start laughing and giggling to each other.

I think you made a good decision. I’m the PP who said that for summer school to be effective you have to put in a lot of work and that the regular IEP is often just not sufficient. I found summer school only effective for very specific reasons - credit recovery. I hope leaving summer school brings your child peace.

A good decision because MCPS staff can not be trusted to do their job and put students first. It's also a good decision to run from a house on fire. But it's a total and absolute failure of MCPS to do the mission which they are paid to do by our tax dollars. It should never be good for a parent to have to flee. That's a cry for vouchers and why we are headed in that direction.

Regular main stream teachers are not trained to deal with mentally ill kids and suicidal threats. Kid was in a new environment and parents were experimenting with medication without involving the IEP team. It is shortsighted to blame the school.

Are you making up stuff? Why are you disparaging others online?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did send an email to the principal and notified him of our intention to withdraw DS from the summer school program with the rationale for our decision. We did not mention the two teachers laughing. DS was calming down as soon as DH got there. Therefore, of course DS and DH could observe the two teachers (one who guided DH into the classroom where DS was being contained) and the other that was in classroom watching DS while waiting for DH to show up start laughing and giggling to each other.

I think you made a good decision. I’m the PP who said that for summer school to be effective you have to put in a lot of work and that the regular IEP is often just not sufficient. I found summer school only effective for very specific reasons - credit recovery. I hope leaving summer school brings your child peace.

A good decision because MCPS staff can not be trusted to do their job and put students first. It's also a good decision to run from a house on fire. But it's a total and absolute failure of MCPS to do the mission which they are paid to do by our tax dollars. It should never be good for a parent to have to flee. That's a cry for vouchers and why we are headed in that direction.

Regular main stream teachers are not trained to deal with mentally ill kids and suicidal threats. Kid was in a new environment and parents were experimenting with medication without involving the IEP team. It is shortsighted to blame the school.

Are you making up stuff? Why are you disparaging others online?

Looks like some (paid public relations) wants to discourage and divert the main issues. They call people names, bully them online as you can see from many posts here on DCUM. They are paid to do that. what a waste of tax payer monies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did send an email to the principal and notified him of our intention to withdraw DS from the summer school program with the rationale for our decision. We did not mention the two teachers laughing. DS was calming down as soon as DH got there. Therefore, of course DS and DH could observe the two teachers (one who guided DH into the classroom where DS was being contained) and the other that was in classroom watching DS while waiting for DH to show up start laughing and giggling to each other.

I think you made a good decision. I’m the PP who said that for summer school to be effective you have to put in a lot of work and that the regular IEP is often just not sufficient. I found summer school only effective for very specific reasons - credit recovery. I hope leaving summer school brings your child peace.

A good decision because MCPS staff can not be trusted to do their job and put students first. It's also a good decision to run from a house on fire. But it's a total and absolute failure of MCPS to do the mission which they are paid to do by our tax dollars. It should never be good for a parent to have to flee. That's a cry for vouchers and why we are headed in that direction.

Regular main stream teachers are not trained to deal with mentally ill kids and suicidal threats. Kid was in a new environment and parents were experimenting with medication without involving the IEP team. It is shortsighted to blame the school.

Are you making up stuff? Why are you disparaging others online?

Yes, the OP had done free time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did send an email to the principal and notified him of our intention to withdraw DS from the summer school program with the rationale for our decision. We did not mention the two teachers laughing. DS was calming down as soon as DH got there. Therefore, of course DS and DH could observe the two teachers (one who guided DH into the classroom where DS was being contained) and the other that was in classroom watching DS while waiting for DH to show up start laughing and giggling to each other.

I think you made a good decision. I’m the PP who said that for summer school to be effective you have to put in a lot of work and that the regular IEP is often just not sufficient. I found summer school only effective for very specific reasons - credit recovery. I hope leaving summer school brings your child peace.

A good decision because MCPS staff can not be trusted to do their job and put students first. It's also a good decision to run from a house on fire. But it's a total and absolute failure of MCPS to do the mission which they are paid to do by our tax dollars. It should never be good for a parent to have to flee. That's a cry for vouchers and why we are headed in that direction.

Regular main stream teachers are not trained to deal with mentally ill kids and suicidal threats. Kid was in a new environment and parents were experimenting with medication without involving the IEP team. It is shortsighted to blame the school.

Are you making up stuff? Why are you disparaging others online?

I am not disparaging anyone. This was a bad situation. OP decided to use the summer program as a time to try out new medication and see how her son would react in school. But it was summer school and if you’ve never experienced summer school as a parent of a kid with mental health issues maybe you’re not aware. But the teachers are not the regular teachers who know the kids. And, in general teachers are not trained in mental health issues and not equipped to deal with them. This is just an all around unfortunate situation but i don’t see how you can blame the school unless they somehow didn’t follow the students IEP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did send an email to the principal and notified him of our intention to withdraw DS from the summer school program with the rationale for our decision. We did not mention the two teachers laughing. DS was calming down as soon as DH got there. Therefore, of course DS and DH could observe the two teachers (one who guided DH into the classroom where DS was being contained) and the other that was in classroom watching DS while waiting for DH to show up start laughing and giggling to each other.

I think you made a good decision. I’m the PP who said that for summer school to be effective you have to put in a lot of work and that the regular IEP is often just not sufficient. I found summer school only effective for very specific reasons - credit recovery. I hope leaving summer school brings your child peace.

A good decision because MCPS staff can not be trusted to do their job and put students first. It's also a good decision to run from a house on fire. But it's a total and absolute failure of MCPS to do the mission which they are paid to do by our tax dollars. It should never be good for a parent to have to flee. That's a cry for vouchers and why we are headed in that direction.

Regular main stream teachers are not trained to deal with mentally ill kids and suicidal threats. Kid was in a new environment and parents were experimenting with medication without involving the IEP team. It is shortsighted to blame the school.

Are you making up stuff? Why are you disparaging others online?

I am not disparaging anyone. This was a bad situation. OP decided to use the summer program as a time to try out new medication and see how her son would react in school. But it was summer school and if you’ve never experienced summer school as a parent of a kid with mental health issues maybe you’re not aware. But the teachers are not the regular teachers who know the kids. And, in general teachers are not trained in mental health issues and not equipped to deal with them. This is just an all around unfortunate situation but i don’t see how you can blame the school unless they somehow didn’t follow the students IEP.

I agree with this. If the child is suicidal and trying new medications, being in a new school, with a new teacher, and being summer school sounds like a recipe for disaster regardless of the talent of the teacher. Everyone knows that schools are short-staffed yet they had 2 teachers helping this 1 child multiple times this summer. Parents, like teachers, also need to be held responsible for their choices.

[Anonymous]

OP here...the medication switch was from Adderall XR to Ritalin XR because DS was not eating on Adderall. That was it. Please do not assume that just because we are making a medication switch it was purely for direct treatment and not for addressing side effects of one medication.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here...the medication switch was from Adderall XR to Ritalin XR because DS was not eating on Adderall. That was it. Please do not assume that just because we are making a medication switch it was purely for direct treatment and not for addressing side effects of one medication.

Your child is suicidal. At 8. Your child needs more support than a summer school program can offer. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did send an email to the principal and notified him of our intention to withdraw DS from the summer school program with the rationale for our decision. We did not mention the two teachers laughing. DS was calming down as soon as DH got there. Therefore, of course DS and DH could observe the two teachers (one who guided DH into the classroom where DS was being contained) and the other that was in classroom watching DS while waiting for DH to show up start laughing and giggling to each other.

I think you made a good decision. I’m the PP who said that for summer school to be effective you have to put in a lot of work and that the regular IEP is often just not sufficient. I found summer school only effective for very specific reasons - credit recovery. I hope leaving summer school brings your child peace.

A good decision because MCPS staff can not be trusted to do their job and put students first. It's also a good decision to run from a house on fire. But it's a total and absolute failure of MCPS to do the mission which they are paid to do by our tax dollars. It should never be good for a parent to have to flee. That's a cry for vouchers and why we are headed in that direction.

Regular main stream teachers are not trained to deal with mentally ill kids and suicidal threats. Kid was in a new environment and parents were experimenting with medication without involving the IEP team. It is shortsighted to blame the school.

Are you making up stuff? Why are you disparaging others online?

Looks like some (paid public relations) wants to discourage and divert the main issues. They call people names, bully them online as you can see from many posts here on DCUM. They are paid to do that. what a waste of tax payer monies.

The Russian Troll continues to accuse everyone of being PR hacks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here...the medication switch was from Adderall XR to Ritalin XR because DS was not eating on Adderall. That was it. Please do not assume that just because we are making a medication switch it was purely for direct treatment and not for addressing side effects of one medication.

Your child is suicidal. At 8. Your child needs more support than a summer school program can offer. Period.

10% of ES kids make suicidal statements. More make murderous statements. That's not the same as being suicidal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did send an email to the principal and notified him of our intention to withdraw DS from the summer school program with the rationale for our decision. We did not mention the two teachers laughing. DS was calming down as soon as DH got there. Therefore, of course DS and DH could observe the two teachers (one who guided DH into the classroom where DS was being contained) and the other that was in classroom watching DS while waiting for DH to show up start laughing and giggling to each other.

I think you made a good decision. I’m the PP who said that for summer school to be effective you have to put in a lot of work and that the regular IEP is often just not sufficient. I found summer school only effective for very specific reasons - credit recovery. I hope leaving summer school brings your child peace.

A good decision because MCPS staff can not be trusted to do their job and put students first. It's also a good decision to run from a house on fire. But it's a total and absolute failure of MCPS to do the mission which they are paid to do by our tax dollars. It should never be good for a parent to have to flee. That's a cry for vouchers and why we are headed in that direction.

Regular main stream teachers are not trained to deal with mentally ill kids and suicidal threats. Kid was in a new environment and parents were experimenting with medication without involving the IEP team. It is shortsighted to blame the school.

Are you making up stuff? Why are you disparaging others online?

Looks like some (paid public relations) wants to discourage and divert the main issues. They call people names, bully them online as you can see from many posts here on DCUM. They are paid to do that. what a waste of tax payer monies.

The Russian Troll continues to accuse everyone of being PR hacks!

If you look holistically at many threads, you will see a pattern of motivated posts that indulge in online bullying of parents, discouraging and diverting the conversation that relates to lack of support and resources for teachers and students. I wonder why someone is motivated to propagate denying opportunities and support for ALL students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did send an email to the principal and notified him of our intention to withdraw DS from the summer school program with the rationale for our decision. We did not mention the two teachers laughing. DS was calming down as soon as DH got there. Therefore, of course DS and DH could observe the two teachers (one who guided DH into the classroom where DS was being contained) and the other that was in classroom watching DS while waiting for DH to show up start laughing and giggling to each other.

I think you made a good decision. I’m the PP who said that for summer school to be effective you have to put in a lot of work and that the regular IEP is often just not sufficient. I found summer school only effective for very specific reasons - credit recovery. I hope leaving summer school brings your child peace.

A good decision because MCPS staff can not be trusted to do their job and put students first. It's also a good decision to run from a house on fire. But it's a total and absolute failure of MCPS to do the mission which they are paid to do by our tax dollars. It should never be good for a parent to have to flee. That's a cry for vouchers and why we are headed in that direction.

Regular main stream teachers are not trained to deal with mentally ill kids and suicidal threats. Kid was in a new environment and parents were experimenting with medication without involving the IEP team. It is shortsighted to blame the school.

Are you making up stuff? Why are you disparaging others online?

Looks like some (paid public relations) wants to discourage and divert the main issues. They call people names, bully them online as you can see from many posts here on DCUM. They are paid to do that. what a waste of tax payer monies.

The Russian Troll continues to accuse everyone of being PR hacks!

If you look holistically at many threads, you will see a pattern of motivated posts that indulge in online bullying of parents, discouraging and diverting the conversation that relates to lack of support and resources for teachers and students. I wonder why someone is motivated to propagate denying opportunities and support for ALL students.

I see individual posters trying to defend their own space - racist, elitist, go figure-ist - trying to get the best for their kid at the expense of everyone else's kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here...the medication switch was from Adderall XR to Ritalin XR because DS was not eating on Adderall. That was it. Please do not assume that just because we are making a medication switch it was purely for direct treatment and not for addressing side effects of one medication.

Your child is suicidal. At 8. Your child needs more support than a summer school program can offer. Period.

10% of ES kids make suicidal statements. More make murderous statements. That's not the same as being suicidal.

Do you expect teachers to know how to handle multiple suicidal threats? This is not something they are trained for. And is not up to a teacher to decide whether a threat is real or not. That child should be taken to the crisis center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here...the medication switch was from Adderall XR to Ritalin XR because DS was not eating on Adderall. That was it. Please do not assume that just because we are making a medication switch it was purely for direct treatment and not for addressing side effects of one medication.

Your child is suicidal. At 8. Your child needs more support than a summer school program can offer. Period.

10% of ES kids make suicidal statements. More make murderous statements. That's not the same as being suicidal.

Do you expect teachers to know how to handle multiple suicidal threats? This is not something they are trained for. And is not up to a teacher to decide whether a threat is real or not. That child should be taken to the crisis center.

How should MoCo handle those 10% of kids? MCPS doesn't have the resources.

[Anonymous]

I am sorry this is so difficult. Sounds like the camp is not designed with all the staff needed to provide one on one support for your son, and attending the camp is something he can’t deal with yet. I can’t blame the camp - they have to respond when a student threatens to harm themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sorry this is so difficult. Sounds like the camp is not designed with all the staff needed to provide one on one support for your son, and attending the camp is something he can’t deal with yet. I can’t blame the camp - they have to respond when a student threatens to harm themselves.

Camp? This is MCPS summer school we're talking about.

Nice try.