Any hope Youngkin will bring back 0s?

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Anonymous wrote:You mean like it was when we were kids and nothing was on computers yet? People managed to navigate school for an awful long time without computers.

Somehow my brother and I got through school with ADHD, reasonably serious ADHD, with regular old planners. My brother struggled more then I did but he graduated with a B average, went to college, and graduated from college so he figured it out.

Get your kid a planner. Go on the various sites and write down the assignments that you can find. Go to Teacher and confirm that what is in the planner is what is due.

Have you ever tried to reach a MS or HS teacher in FCPS? Pretty sure there is some unwritten rule that says once a kid passes 6th grade teachers no longer need to respond to a student or parent email. In MS and up it's all about self advocacy and they want the kid to do the talking but I'm convinced much of that is because it's easier to ignore a kid, they give up. MS and HS teachers barely grade on time. They surely are not responsive to planner/assignment checks.

Some of you are just making sh-- up now. My DD has done office hours, emailed teachers, stayed after school to ask questions with absolutely no problem. Through MS, through COVID, through HS. I get that some individual teachers may be more difficult. But, this sweeping generalization is pure BS.

Also, ES teachers have around 20-25 students each. MS and HS teachers have 100-150, meaning 100-300 parents.

And yet, my HS DC has never had an issue with setting up times to meet a teacher for questions or help.

Lucky you. Wish my kids could say the same.

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Anonymous wrote:You mean like it was when we were kids and nothing was on computers yet? People managed to navigate school for an awful long time without computers.

Somehow my brother and I got through school with ADHD, reasonably serious ADHD, with regular old planners. My brother struggled more then I did but he graduated with a B average, went to college, and graduated from college so he figured it out.

Get your kid a planner. Go on the various sites and write down the assignments that you can find. Go to Teacher and confirm that what is in the planner is what is due.

Have you ever tried to reach a MS or HS teacher in FCPS? Pretty sure there is some unwritten rule that says once a kid passes 6th grade teachers no longer need to respond to a student or parent email. In MS and up it's all about self advocacy and they want the kid to do the talking but I'm convinced much of that is because it's easier to ignore a kid, they give up. MS and HS teachers barely grade on time. They surely are not responsive to planner/assignment checks.

Some of you are just making sh-- up now. My DD has done office hours, emailed teachers, stayed after school to ask questions with absolutely no problem. Through MS, through COVID, through HS. I get that some individual teachers may be more difficult. But, this sweeping generalization is pure BS.

Also, ES teachers have around 20-25 students each. MS and HS teachers have 100-150, meaning 100-300 parents.

And yet, my HS DC has never had an issue with setting up times to meet a teacher for questions or help.

Lucky you. Wish my kids could say the same.

That stinks. But the point is, people saying things like "teachers never . . . " or "my kids can never do XXXX to get help with teachers . . . . " are over-generalizing. And, I personally wonder just not advocating enough for themselves/their kids. Do not sit back and be a passenger, get in the driver's seat. Teachers, advisors, etc. have 1 or 2 allowances to deal directly with my kid. If they don't then I get involved. In 10 years, that has only needed to happen once or twice and never in MS or HS.

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The goal of school is to learn the material. Why does it matter if they do retakes — they demonstrate they have learned the material. If you fail the bar exam you can take it again. If you fail your drivers license exam you can retake. So why should school be any different?

+1 That's growth mindset, "I don't know this yet"

Exactly. We want kids to learn the material and be motivated to keep trying.

My kid right now has a cool grading policy for geometry that is motivating: the grade is only based on quizzes and tests. If you do better on the test than the quizzes then your quiz scores get bumped up to the test score. And if you get any problems incorrect on the test, you can do a thoughtful exercise on why you got it wrong and how to do it correctly - to bump up grade by 1/2 point per problem.

It's been very motivating for my kid and I hope to see more teachers (esp math) use this grading policy.

I used to agree with this but then I heard someone say - what it’s going to be like when it’s these kids age working at nasa. Oops we just missed the moon - we will just do a redo.

I have zero problem with retakes and some additional credit given. I DO have problems with retakes and allowing full credit. I have problems with allowing late assignments and kids getting full credit. If you missed a deadline, you shouldn't get the same grade as the person who followed directions and turned it in on time. You essentially got a free extension of time to complete the work.

Generally, I'd agree with this, but during the pandemic - and even now somewhat - it's been extra difficult to track assignments. Even hard-working kids can miss assignments here or there.

Tough sh--. And, untrue. Between Schoology, SIS, and parents who should be helping them learn to track assignments, there is no reason not to track assignments.

100% true. It was very difficult to track assignments in virtual/concurrent/hybrid. Every teacher assigned work a little differently. My kid was out with covid several weeks ago and it was a nightmare to track down missing assignments, reschedule tests, etc.

This is no longer the case. Our school uses Schoology - period. Track it. Get a calendar.
It's not that hard. And even if it is, that is a you problem to solve.

And this is an example of why we have the 50 percent floor policy.

Oh aren't you just a peach? What part of this is wrong? Between schoology, a hard copy calendar, and SIS, it's NOT that hard.

My kid has assignments that are on the daily agenda or given a month out. The schoology ones are pretty easy to track. Oh and the calendar changes all the time.

I mean, that's life. So, not really an excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:You mean like it was when we were kids and nothing was on computers yet? People managed to navigate school for an awful long time without computers.

Somehow my brother and I got through school with ADHD, reasonably serious ADHD, with regular old planners. My brother struggled more then I did but he graduated with a B average, went to college, and graduated from college so he figured it out.

Get your kid a planner. Go on the various sites and write down the assignments that you can find. Go to Teacher and confirm that what is in the planner is what is due.

Have you ever tried to reach a MS or HS teacher in FCPS? Pretty sure there is some unwritten rule that says once a kid passes 6th grade teachers no longer need to respond to a student or parent email. In MS and up it's all about self advocacy and they want the kid to do the talking but I'm convinced much of that is because it's easier to ignore a kid, they give up. MS and HS teachers barely grade on time. They surely are not responsive to planner/assignment checks.

Some of you are just making sh-- up now. My DD has done office hours, emailed teachers, stayed after school to ask questions with absolutely no problem. Through MS, through COVID, through HS. I get that some individual teachers may be more difficult. But, this sweeping generalization is pure BS.

Not OP or PP but wanted to respond to this: you don't think parents have tried that? I found HS teachers to be particularly unhelpful and my kids had no issues advocating for themselves (got 1 left in HS and cannot wait to be done). They were varisty team captains and held officer positions in a few clubs. One was on the debate team. And yes I got involved and it's ridiculous I had to.
Also, ES teachers have around 20-25 students each. MS and HS teachers have 100-150, meaning 100-300 parents.

And yet, my HS DC has never had an issue with setting up times to meet a teacher for questions or help.

Lucky you. Wish my kids could say the same.

That stinks. But the point is, people saying things like "teachers never . . . " or "my kids can never do XXXX to get help with teachers . . . . " are over-generalizing. And, I personally wonder just not advocating enough for themselves/their kids. Do not sit back and be a passenger, get in the driver's seat. Teachers, advisors, etc. have 1 or 2 allowances to deal directly with my kid. If they don't then I get involved. In 10 years, that has only needed to happen once or twice and never in MS or HS.

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I guess if your goal is to be a hard a$$ and crush motivation then yeah we should be really strict about deadlines even if there are extenuating circumstances like quarantines, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:You mean like it was when we were kids and nothing was on computers yet? People managed to navigate school for an awful long time without computers.

Somehow my brother and I got through school with ADHD, reasonably serious ADHD, with regular old planners. My brother struggled more then I did but he graduated with a B average, went to college, and graduated from college so he figured it out.

Get your kid a planner. Go on the various sites and write down the assignments that you can find. Go to Teacher and confirm that what is in the planner is what is due.

Have you ever tried to reach a MS or HS teacher in FCPS? Pretty sure there is some unwritten rule that says once a kid passes 6th grade teachers no longer need to respond to a student or parent email. In MS and up it's all about self advocacy and they want the kid to do the talking but I'm convinced much of that is because it's easier to ignore a kid, they give up. MS and HS teachers barely grade on time. They surely are not responsive to planner/assignment checks.

Some of you are just making sh-- up now. My DD has done office hours, emailed teachers, stayed after school to ask questions with absolutely no problem. Through MS, through COVID, through HS. I get that some individual teachers may be more difficult. But, this sweeping generalization is pure BS.

Also, ES teachers have around 20-25 students each. MS and HS teachers have 100-150, meaning 100-300 parents.

And yet, my HS DC has never had an issue with setting up times to meet a teacher for questions or help.

Lucky you. Wish my kids could say the same.

That stinks. But the point is, people saying things like "teachers never . . . " or "my kids can never do XXXX to get help with teachers . . . . " are over-generalizing. And, I personally wonder just not advocating enough for themselves/their kids. Do not sit back and be a passenger, get in the driver's seat. Teachers, advisors, etc. have 1 or 2 allowances to deal directly with my kid. If they don't then I get involved. In 10 years, that has only needed to happen once or twice and never in MS or HS.

Not OP or PP but wanted to respond to this: you don't think parents have tried that? I found HS teachers to be particularly unhelpful and my kids had no issues advocating for themselves (got 1 left in HS and cannot wait to be done). They were varisty team captains and held officer positions in a few clubs. One was on the debate team. And yes I got involved and it's ridiculous I had to.

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Anonymous wrote:You mean like it was when we were kids and nothing was on computers yet? People managed to navigate school for an awful long time without computers.

Somehow my brother and I got through school with ADHD, reasonably serious ADHD, with regular old planners. My brother struggled more then I did but he graduated with a B average, went to college, and graduated from college so he figured it out.

Get your kid a planner. Go on the various sites and write down the assignments that you can find. Go to Teacher and confirm that what is in the planner is what is due.

Have you ever tried to reach a MS or HS teacher in FCPS? Pretty sure there is some unwritten rule that says once a kid passes 6th grade teachers no longer need to respond to a student or parent email. In MS and up it's all about self advocacy and they want the kid to do the talking but I'm convinced much of that is because it's easier to ignore a kid, they give up. MS and HS teachers barely grade on time. They surely are not responsive to planner/assignment checks.

Some of you are just making sh-- up now. My DD has done office hours, emailed teachers, stayed after school to ask questions with absolutely no problem. Through MS, through COVID, through HS. I get that some individual teachers may be more difficult. But, this sweeping generalization is pure BS.

Also, ES teachers have around 20-25 students each. MS and HS teachers have 100-150, meaning 100-300 parents.

And yet, my HS DC has never had an issue with setting up times to meet a teacher for questions or help.

Lucky you. Wish my kids could say the same.

That stinks. But the point is, people saying things like "teachers never . . . " or "my kids can never do XXXX to get help with teachers . . . . " are over-generalizing. And, I personally wonder just not advocating enough for themselves/their kids. Do not sit back and be a passenger, get in the driver's seat. Teachers, advisors, etc. have 1 or 2 allowances to deal directly with my kid. If they don't then I get involved. In 10 years, that has only needed to happen once or twice and never in MS or HS.

Not OP or PP but wanted to respond to this: you don't think parents have tried that? I found HS teachers to be particularly unhelpful and my kids had no issues advocating for themselves (got 1 left in HS and cannot wait to be done). They were varisty team captains and held officer positions in a few clubs. One was on the debate team. And yes I got involved and it's ridiculous I had to.

It may be. But you can whine about it or just do it.

And, I'm sorry, there is no scenario where we have the only easy/helpful teachers or school in FCPS. I think (and I get it to some degree) parents want to be hands off and just have the schools "educate my kids" so they can go about their work or whatever. The reality is that, for families who have certain educational expectations (grades, for example) that was never a thing. And now it's less of a thing for lots of reasons discussed on here.

I just don't get all the complaining. If it's that bad, then you need to deal with it above the teacher level. If it's not, and you just don't like the results for one teacher or how that teacher is handling your child, then you handle it. What's the point in over-generalizing (and many of you are) or trashing teachers across the board. It's not an across the board issue. It is an individual issue.

Whatever. You are not going to convince me, and vice versa.

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Anonymous wrote:You mean like it was when we were kids and nothing was on computers yet? People managed to navigate school for an awful long time without computers.

Somehow my brother and I got through school with ADHD, reasonably serious ADHD, with regular old planners. My brother struggled more then I did but he graduated with a B average, went to college, and graduated from college so he figured it out.

Get your kid a planner. Go on the various sites and write down the assignments that you can find. Go to Teacher and confirm that what is in the planner is what is due.

Have you ever tried to reach a MS or HS teacher in FCPS? Pretty sure there is some unwritten rule that says once a kid passes 6th grade teachers no longer need to respond to a student or parent email. In MS and up it's all about self advocacy and they want the kid to do the talking but I'm convinced much of that is because it's easier to ignore a kid, they give up. MS and HS teachers barely grade on time. They surely are not responsive to planner/assignment checks.

Some of you are just making sh-- up now. My DD has done office hours, emailed teachers, stayed after school to ask questions with absolutely no problem. Through MS, through COVID, through HS. I get that some individual teachers may be more difficult. But, this sweeping generalization is pure BS.

Also, ES teachers have around 20-25 students each. MS and HS teachers have 100-150, meaning 100-300 parents.

And yet, my HS DC has never had an issue with setting up times to meet a teacher for questions or help.

Lucky you. Wish my kids could say the same.

That stinks. But the point is, people saying things like "teachers never . . . " or "my kids can never do XXXX to get help with teachers . . . . " are over-generalizing. And, I personally wonder just not advocating enough for themselves/their kids. Do not sit back and be a passenger, get in the driver's seat. Teachers, advisors, etc. have 1 or 2 allowances to deal directly with my kid. If they don't then I get involved. In 10 years, that has only needed to happen once or twice and never in MS or HS.

Not OP or PP but wanted to respond to this: you don't think parents have tried that? I found HS teachers to be particularly unhelpful and my kids had no issues advocating for themselves (got 1 left in HS and cannot wait to be done). They were varisty team captains and held officer positions in a few clubs. One was on the debate team. And yes I got involved and it's ridiculous I had to.

It may be. But you can whine about it or just do it.

And, I'm sorry, there is no scenario where we have the only easy/helpful teachers or school in FCPS. I think (and I get it to some degree) parents want to be hands off and just have the schools "educate my kids" so they can go about their work or whatever. The reality is that, for families who have certain educational expectations (grades, for example) that was never a thing. And now it's less of a thing for lots of reasons discussed on here.

I just don't get all the complaining. If it's that bad, then you need to deal with it above the teacher level. If it's not, and you just don't like the results for one teacher or how that teacher is handling your child, then you handle it. What's the point in over-generalizing (and many of you are) or trashing teachers across the board. It's not an across the board issue. It is an individual issue.

Whatever. You are not going to convince me, and vice versa.

I think because you came in rigidly saying there is no situation ("Tough sh--. And, untrue.") where it has been tough to track assignments and get them submitted during the pandemic and now with quarantines.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people just want to take away all decision making from locally elected bodies of government?

If the school board has said that a kid not turning in work still starts with a 50%, then yeah, that needs to go away. Attendance does not equal a grade. Students need to be turning in work on time. Students not turning in work should earn a 0 on the assignment. Students turning in work late should lose points for turning in the assignment late. I promise you that these types of policies are not doing students any good. It is inflating grades and moving kids ahead when they are not ready. They are not teaching kids habits that will help them in life.

Spoken like someone who knows no one with learning differences of any kind.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people just want to take away all decision making from locally elected bodies of government?

If the school board has said that a kid not turning in work still starts with a 50%, then yeah, that needs to go away. Attendance does not equal a grade. Students need to be turning in work on time. Students not turning in work should earn a 0 on the assignment. Students turning in work late should lose points for turning in the assignment late. I promise you that these types of policies are not doing students any good. It is inflating grades and moving kids ahead when they are not ready. They are not teaching kids habits that will help them in life.

Spoken like someone who knows no one with learning differences of any kind.

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