Are you okay with students learning abou CRT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm totally fine with it. I guess I really don't get the uproar? I'm not saying that to be obtuse, I truly don't understand why it's so controversial to teach kids about redlining, racial covenants, three strikes you're out, etc. I learned about redlining and disproportionality in high school (in not particularly liberal part of Wisconsin, mind you) in the late 90s, it's not that new. Somehow we all survived.

This!! Also, when did teaching facts about history become a problem? Yes, facts are difficult, but we can't sweep them under the rug - we must learn from them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please be aware that the "criticalrace.org" site referenced about is "Critical Race Training," a site dedicated to encouraging Fragile White Panic.

but I'd read about the assertion the Revolutionary War was fought to preserve slavery elsewhere too. Are you saying that's not part of CRT?

I'm saying CRT = critical race theory

And the website someone wants to rely on is arguing against CRT after choosing a domain name and organization name intended to mislead people into thinking it's an objective source. It's not. It's pushing a conservative agenda.

[Anonymous]

Not if it prevents hiring of profs and forming classes in departments besides anthro, soc, AA studies, etc.!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not if it prevents hiring of profs and forming classes in departments besides anthro, soc, AA studies, etc.!

Well, it doesn't.

Are you at all familiar with American higher education? Can we answer any questions for you?

[Anonymous]

Yes, totally fine with it.

Former academic, and if you can give me one example of an undergraduate actually being taught "CRT" in class, I will eat my dissertation. And, no blather from FOX news.

We can barely get the students to come to class and pay attention, even in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not if it prevents hiring of profs and forming classes in departments besides anthro, soc, AA studies, etc.!

Well, it doesn't.

Are you at all familiar with American higher education? Can we answer any questions for you?[/quote

Don’t be disingenuous, you know that there’s been a massive hiring push for professors in certain departments of area studies.

[Anonymous]

There's a reason college students aren't typically homeschooled.

I have no relevant expertise designing college curricula in any topic other than the one my doctorate is in -- and even with that, my doctorate is from 2013 so I'm a bit out of date.

The idea that anyone in the general public would have the ability to determine college-level content is baffling to me. Class content is affected by a variety of things, but public opinion is not one of them. Critical Race Theory, the theory, is content that (when I was in grad school -- political science) was taught to upper level race and politics students, grad students with American Politics or judicial politics specialties, and law students. And, I'm sure, students in other departments.

It never will stop perplexing me that this has become SUCH an issue. Like, I wouldn't presume to go into a Psych 101 class and demand that Freud's psychosexual theories be skipped even though I don't like them. It's not for me to say what a professor in another department does or doesn't add to their syllabus.

[Anonymous]

I think we'll see more new schools like the University of Austin open as second-rate colleges and universities peddling CRT-infused nonsense fail to attract students and go out of business.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/we-cant-wait-for-universities-to

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a reason college students aren't typically homeschooled.

I have no relevant expertise designing college curricula in any topic other than the one my doctorate is in -- and even with that, my doctorate is from 2013 so I'm a bit out of date.

The idea that anyone in the general public would have the ability to determine college-level content is baffling to me. Class content is affected by a variety of things, but public opinion is not one of them. Critical Race Theory, the theory, is content that (when I was in grad school -- political science) was taught to upper level race and politics students, grad students with American Politics or judicial politics specialties, and law students. And, I'm sure, students in other departments.

It never will stop perplexing me that this has become SUCH an issue. Like, I wouldn't presume to go into a Psych 101 class and demand that Freud's psychosexual theories be skipped even though I don't like them. It's not for me to say what a professor in another department does or doesn't add to their syllabus.

I agree 100%, especially when we are talking about college kids or higher-level learners in high school. There should be CRT based courses offered. How can this be a question?

[Anonymous]

Whatever. Keep on acting like "CRT" is really a thing, because it's not taught to undergraduates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, totally fine with it.

Former academic, and if you can give me one example of an undergraduate actually being taught "CRT" in class, I will eat my dissertation. And, no blather from FOX news.

We can barely get the students to come to class and pay attention, even in college.

* AFAM 239a / AMST 461a / EDST 209a / ER&M 292a / WGSS 202a, Identity, Diversity, and Policy in U.S. Education  Craig Canfield
Introduction to critical theory (feminism, queer theory, critical race theory, disability studies, trans studies, indigenous studies) as a fundamental tool for understanding and critiquing identity, diversity, and policy in U.S. education. Exploration of identity politics and theory, as they figure in education policy. Methods for applying theory and interventions to interrogate issues in education. Application of theory and interventions to policy creation and reform.  WR, HU

http://catalog.yale.edu/ycps/courses/afam/

I would expect that any university with an African American studies department will have a similar offering. I hope you weren't too verbose in your thesis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please be aware that the "criticalrace.org" site referenced about is "Critical Race Training," a site dedicated to encouraging Fragile White Panic.

but I'd read about the assertion the Revolutionary War was fought to preserve slavery elsewhere too. Are you saying that's not part of CRT?

I'm saying CRT = critical race theory

And the website someone wants to rely on is arguing against CRT after choosing a domain name and organization name intended to mislead people into thinking it's an objective source. It's not. It's pushing a conservative agenda.

O.k., I believe you. But you didn't answer the question. Would CRT (your definition) take the viewpoint that the Revolutionary War was fought to preserve slavery?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, totally fine with it.

Former academic, and if you can give me one example of an undergraduate actually being taught "CRT" in class, I will eat my dissertation. And, no blather from FOX news.

We can barely get the students to come to class and pay attention, even in college.

* AFAM 239a / AMST 461a / EDST 209a / ER&M 292a / WGSS 202a, Identity, Diversity, and Policy in U.S. Education  Craig Canfield
Introduction to critical theory (feminism, queer theory, critical race theory, disability studies, trans studies, indigenous studies) as a fundamental tool for understanding and critiquing identity, diversity, and policy in U.S. education. Exploration of identity politics and theory, as they figure in education policy. Methods for applying theory and interventions to interrogate issues in education. Application of theory and interventions to policy creation and reform.  WR, HU

http://catalog.yale.edu/ycps/courses/afam/

I would expect that any university with an African American studies department will have a similar offering. I hope you weren't too verbose in your thesis.

You understand that’s not a crt course right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, totally fine with it.

Former academic, and if you can give me one example of an undergraduate actually being taught "CRT" in class, I will eat my dissertation. And, no blather from FOX news.

We can barely get the students to come to class and pay attention, even in college.

* AFAM 239a / AMST 461a / EDST 209a / ER&M 292a / WGSS 202a, Identity, Diversity, and Policy in U.S. Education  Craig Canfield
Introduction to critical theory (feminism, queer theory, critical race theory, disability studies, trans studies, indigenous studies) as a fundamental tool for understanding and critiquing identity, diversity, and policy in U.S. education. Exploration of identity politics and theory, as they figure in education policy. Methods for applying theory and interventions to interrogate issues in education. Application of theory and interventions to policy creation and reform.  WR, HU

http://catalog.yale.edu/ycps/courses/afam/

I would expect that any university with an African American studies department will have a similar offering. I hope you weren't too verbose in your thesis.

You understand that’s not a crt course right?

Is CRT a stand alone course? Or is it a viewpoint that gets infused in other subjects like U.S. History, economics, etc. I mean if you have a Marxist prof, for example, it doesn't have to be a course in Marxism for them to influence the way the material in a given subject is taught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, totally fine with it.

Former academic, and if you can give me one example of an undergraduate actually being taught "CRT" in class, I will eat my dissertation. And, no blather from FOX news.

We can barely get the students to come to class and pay attention, even in college.

* AFAM 239a / AMST 461a / EDST 209a / ER&M 292a / WGSS 202a, Identity, Diversity, and Policy in U.S. Education  Craig Canfield
Introduction to critical theory (feminism, queer theory, critical race theory, disability studies, trans studies, indigenous studies) as a fundamental tool for understanding and critiquing identity, diversity, and policy in U.S. education. Exploration of identity politics and theory, as they figure in education policy. Methods for applying theory and interventions to interrogate issues in education. Application of theory and interventions to policy creation and reform.  WR, HU

http://catalog.yale.edu/ycps/courses/afam/

I would expect that any university with an African American studies department will have a similar offering. I hope you weren't too verbose in your thesis.

You understand that’s not a crt course right?

So an introduction to critical theory specifically critical race theory doesn’t count as teaching critical race theory