Are you okay with students learning abou CRT

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Anonymous wrote:1) I actually studied CRT at the graduate level and that's not what's happening in schools here. Letting children know racism exists and has been an important part of our history is not CRT. Here's a reading list for those asking what it is: https://researchguides.library.vanderbilt.edu/c.php?g=414672&p=3327226. I recommend this article: https://harvardlawreview.org/1993/06/whiteness-as-property/

2) I am in favor of kids learning about the history and presence of racism in the US at grade appropriate levels (e.g. my first grader can't learn about legal history because he still doesn't have much understanding of the legal system, but he can learn in a fairly basic way about segregation, and we talk at home about how this influenced our city and school system).

Good summary. That's how I feel about it. My kids need to learn about the history and presence of racism in the US. I get really mad the more I read and learn about important things that were glossed over or skipped in my own education.

+1 What I keep hearing called "CRT" is nothing like CRT. It's just...a broader understanding of history. I want my kids to learn the complexities of our country's founding - the ways in which the founders both succeeded and fell short of their rhetoric around enlightenment and liberty.

Similarly, I want them to engage with primary texts that some folks would rather keep hidden. They can read the Articles of Secession for themselves and figure out what was behind the Civil War, and they can watch the videos of "Mothers of Massive Resistance" opposing desegregation. They can learn the whole messy history, even if it's hard.

Exactly. There is something seriously wrong with anyone who opposes this.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely NO!

why? What do you think CRT is that is so objectionable? It's not "blame the white man for everything". It's about how systemic racism throughout history has lead to some institutionalized racism in our systems and cultures - like prison sentencing and profiling.

You can't seriously think that 200+ years of racism in our culture and institutions just evaporated, do you?

I just read an article about the "Great White Hope" which took place in the early 20th century. It takes many generations to root out that kind of thinking in our culture.

Even if we don't have outright language in our laws and institutions that are racist, that doesn't mean that racism no longer exists in our systems, particularly in the judicial system. Our system is made up of people, and people are flawed.

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Yes, I am, with the caveat that concepts kids can grasp at the grade school level are not actually CRT.

Those same concepts are addressed at our liberal church, and in theory will be addressed through the equity curriculum at our private school although I haven't seen any evidence of the latter actually happening yet.

On a related note, when I was in HS in the 90s we read Beloved. There was no option to opt out and nobody thought it was too triggering for HS students. We also learned about the discrepancy in sentencing for crack vs cocaine. The things the right is mad about aren't new to schools at all, they're just the new targets of manufactured outrage.

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Of course. As a historian, I think it is crucial to examine the parts of history that don't reflect well on us as a culture: NINA, Sacco and Vanzetti, anti-Asian sentiment etc. CRT is just trying to highlight injustice that is a part of our history.

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Anonymous wrote:I am okay with my DC learning about anything. Saying that, as far as I understand it, CRT is about tearing down the current system as it is deemed racist - this is total BS and I am absolutely not okay with that. Do I think kids should be aware of systematic racism - absolutely, it exist and it should be dealt with!But do we have to tear the entire system to fix it - i don’t think so, that is inviting chaos an anarchy!

Right. But isn't discussing all of this and letting kids apply their own critical reasoning skills to it the whole point of education? Talking HS here. But the idea that a HS kid can't be introduced to topics that make them uncomfortable and even to a philosophy or political ideology that they may come to reject is completely ridiculous to me. Can they not take comparative government and learn about Marxism without threatening our culture and feeling attacked as horrible capitalists? Learning and discussing difficult topis is an important part of education. I don't need anyone to protect my kid from CRT or any other discipline of thought. And, BTW, we absolutely need to revise the way we teach history to include the fact that racism is embedded in our government systems beginning with the constitution. I was following a debate on Facebook this week where a woman was explaining why CRT is so offensive to her and it came down to "we live in a non-discriminatory society and I don't want my kids told otherwise." I'm white and I know that's just not freaking true. I think we owe it to our kids a bit more honestly.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't you wonder who these folks who are constantly bringing up CRT are?

That's circular reasoning from Fox News hosts, whipping up these poor sad, sorry wives into a frenzy so they have something to do and don't realize what sorry, sad lives they have and go vote for the GOP status quo.

They lock themselves in their McMansions scared that Black people are coming to ask for reparations or something. I feel sorry for them, Karens!

You are disgusting!

If it is not your reason then, what's your reason? It's never clear. So this "disgusting" poster might actually have hit a nerve!

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Anonymous wrote:CRT is the notion that current/past law generates/perpetuates racism. For example, a previous poster mentioned redlining. Redlining was the bank practice not to lend to people in certain areas. Who were those people? Mostly black people. What was the effect of they practice? To deprive black people of home ownership. Why does that matter? For many families, home ownership is the cornerstone of their wealth. Also, neighborhoods of homeowners tend to be more stable and provide better living conditions. In sum, redlining is an example of a law/practice that systematically disenfranchised a group from prosperity. Kids should know about that to ensure that future society doesn’t repeat it. If you don’t support economic handouts, don’t make it impossible for people to succeed.

Good example.

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People on the far-right think their sh*t doesn’t stink. And, anything that suggests otherwise is either socialism or communism. All of this is by definition, thus there is no gray area to even debate. If you think there is a gray area, clearly you are not Christian or a Patriot.

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Anonymous wrote:People on the far-right think their sh*t doesn’t stink. And, anything that suggests otherwise is either socialism or communism. All of this is by definition, thus there is no gray area to even debate. If you think there is a gray area, clearly you are not Christian or a Patriot.

People in the far left also thinks the same and i am pretty far left from the center and tired of it.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying that CRT will only be taught in college.. why do college kids have to learn about CRT?
Are you okay with it? I have opinion I just want to know what other people think.

Stop full stop!

Propaganda troll alert

There is not one school in the US that teaches this not one.

I fit one am tired of the so called adults lying!

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No, because it's obvious what it is. And whatever time is spent on it replaces something else on the currciulum.

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Pretty sure this is the purpose of college, at least to me. To become exposed to things outside your normal life and upbringing and allow you to make your own decisions, not those of your parents.

My DS is taking a history class on Russia from 1917 on. I told my very conservative mother than he was taking this class, and she literally grumbled. WHY? Can he not learn about this subject without becoming a communist? LOL

Education should educate, not reinforce things you already believe. History is history and its critical to understand the how's and why's to ensure we do not repeat it.

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I’m all for learning history accurately. I was an FCPS grad in the 70s and we barely talked about slavery. The civil war was about states rights. Not okay with that.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now saying that CRT will only be taught in college.. why do college kids have to learn about CRT?
Are you okay with it? I have opinion I just want to know what other people think.

Well, most college kids are adults according to the law so you being okay with it doesn’t really matter (even if you are paying tuition or not). Google academic freedom, higher ed, Supreme Court.

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Is there a category of knowledge that I want to be closed off to my children? No. I'd like them to learn anything and everything there is to learn.