Aps fall boundaries

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Anonymous wrote:So when these PUs push back can we call them racist?

Call them whatever you want. Who cares? APS needs to get a backbone and just make boundaries that suit APS' needs and goals and the interests of the students.

I think it's pretty clear that making Drew very high FRL and Abingdon a lower (but still not low, frankly) FRL school is the situation that suits APS best. Is it best for the students? There will be some whose needs aren't met, but there is an argument to be made for having a community school with wrap around social services for families at Drew like they do at Carlin Springs. That's not going to be a popular argument with the "equity" lens we are supposedly using, but it's certainly expedient. I don't know what the right answer is.

Isn’t this proposal a pretty good idea, though, in that it sends Claremont, which is almost entirely SFHs, to Drew? They’re keeping the APAH property at Abingdon, along with Fairlington. Am I missing something? At worst, the kids don’t ever materialize at Drew and all go option or private, but that still solves the capacity problem for Abingdon without exacerbating the poverty at Drew.

They conveniently leave the FRL rate out of the proposal info. They gave us K-3 demographics and EL status. At 68% English learner and 75% non-white (which is somewhat correlated to income in Arlington) it's not looking like a particularly affluent bunch. https://www.apsva.us/engage/fall-2021-boundary-process-abingdon-drew/

Only 65 students? If none of those kids opt out, Drew will still be only at 73% capacity.

There’s really only one way to fill Drew. And that is to zone one or more large CAF developments to Drew - either Columbia Grove (Abington) or the Apex (Oakridge). And that is exactly what will happen the next time those schools get crowded. Neither development is in a walk zone and it will be politically very easy. Overcrowding will be the excuse they need. What a shame.

Following up on my earlier post with some data points, I would point out that according to the planning unit data APS has posted on the boundaries information page, the Apex has 142 students (40 more than were predicted prior to its opening), and that Columbia Grove isn’t listed on the data table. Not sure why it has been omitted, but it’s got at least as many kids as the Apex. Both developments are just outside of the proposed boundary for Drew, and not in a walk zone. Oakridge and Abingdon are at 93 and 98 percent capacity, and moving 65 students isn’t going to change that much. In the near future, it’ll be necessary to actually fill Drew past 70 percent. I don’t see a way to do it that doesn’t involve moving at least one of those two buildings to a school that is significantly more disadvantaged school — either Drew, Randolph or Barcroft. Those schools are all in the 70 percent FRL range. Oakridge and Abingdon are much lower and will go lower still if and when those developments are moved. This is why I save my ire for the Arlington County Board. Housing policy is school policy, and the county board members see absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging segregated housing. They care only about the numbers: where can the most be built the cheapest. APS planners have the thankless and impossible job of trying to make schools less segregated than the neighborhoods these children live in.

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There was a shooting near abingdon today so parents shouldnt care if their kid goes from abingdon to drew...both neighborhoods are shady

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APS posted the demographic impact of the proposed change. As expected, on paper, it marginally increases the level of disadvantage at Drew and decreases it at Abingdon. In reality, it’ll be a bit more than the 1-2 percentage points indicated because some parents aren’t going to send their kids to a school with an FRL rate over 60 percent, 20 percent higher than what they have now. It’ll be the kids who don’t have the luxury of going private or moving who go to Drew.

APS also shows what the numbers would be if South Fairlington was moved instead, though they are clear to note they are not proposing that. (They did 3 years ago and caved to a mob of angry parents who confronted them at a Kenmore Middle school meeting). But if SF were moved, both schools would be around 50 percent FRL. On paper, at least. I’d guess people would still bail on both schools but a 50% rate is better than 65%.

Hopefully when it comes time to really fill Drew, South Fairlington and Columbia Grove will both be on the table, and not just the latter.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/fall-2021-boundary-process/

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Anonymous wrote:APS posted the demographic impact of the proposed change. As expected, on paper, it marginally increases the level of disadvantage at Drew and decreases it at Abingdon. In reality, it’ll be a bit more than the 1-2 percentage points indicated because some parents aren’t going to send their kids to a school with an FRL rate over 60 percent, 20 percent higher than what they have now. It’ll be the kids who don’t have the luxury of going private or moving who go to Drew.

APS also shows what the numbers would be if South Fairlington was moved instead, though they are clear to note they are not proposing that. (They did 3 years ago and caved to a mob of angry parents who confronted them at a Kenmore Middle school meeting). But if SF were moved, both schools would be around 50 percent FRL. On paper, at least. I’d guess people would still bail on both schools but a 50% rate is better than 65%.

Hopefully when it comes time to really fill Drew, South Fairlington and Columbia Grove will both be on the table, and not just the latter.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/fall-2021-boundary-process/

Just pointing out that this thread has gone dormant — ample evidence that APS’s intention was to take the path of least resistance: make the poor schools poorer.

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Because barely anyone cares about those poor Southies or FRL, ESL or even the MC kids in South Arlington. That MONA pearl clutching lasted for a minute but Arlington still red lining.

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Anonymous wrote:Because barely anyone cares about those poor Southies or FRL, ESL or even the MC kids in South Arlington. That MONA pearl clutching lasted for a minute but Arlington still red lining.

To be fair, people generally don't care unless it directly affects them. If the boundaries being changed were in the north, the "southies" wouldn't be so engaged either.

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Anonymous wrote:APS posted the demographic impact of the proposed change. As expected, on paper, it marginally increases the level of disadvantage at Drew and decreases it at Abingdon. In reality, it’ll be a bit more than the 1-2 percentage points indicated because some parents aren’t going to send their kids to a school with an FRL rate over 60 percent, 20 percent higher than what they have now. It’ll be the kids who don’t have the luxury of going private or moving who go to Drew.

APS also shows what the numbers would be if South Fairlington was moved instead, though they are clear to note they are not proposing that. (They did 3 years ago and caved to a mob of angry parents who confronted them at a Kenmore Middle school meeting). But if SF were moved, both schools would be around 50 percent FRL. On paper, at least. I’d guess people would still bail on both schools but a 50% rate is better than 65%.

Hopefully when it comes time to really fill Drew, South Fairlington and Columbia Grove will both be on the table, and not just the latter.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/fall-2021-boundary-process/

Just pointing out that this thread has gone dormant — ample evidence that APS’s intention was to take the path of least resistance: make the poor schools poorer.

That's because there isn't much to talk about and nothing to object to. The only people being moved are the people who were moved the last time but didn't want to be moved. So they're getting moved back to where they wanted to be - nothing to object to. And they aren't recommending moving Fairlington; so again, nothing to pushback against.

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There is plants to object to you just don’t care. Drew still needs to be filled. APS cannot leave an elementary school at 70%.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plants to object to you just don’t care. Drew still needs to be filled. APS cannot leave an elementary school at 70%.

A significant number of the north arlington schools are at 70%. Taylor was purposely left at 70% (projected to be even lower) at the last boundary process that HAPPENED LAST YEAR.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plants to object to you just don’t care. Drew still needs to be filled. APS cannot leave an elementary school at 70%.

Actually *I* DO care. But most people don't want to be moved to Drew and most people aren't directly impacted by this small boundary shift. Therefore, generally speaking, the larger community doesn't care because it doesn't directly affect them and they don't find anything objectionable enough to get involved.

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Anonymous wrote:APS posted the demographic impact of the proposed change. As expected, on paper, it marginally increases the level of disadvantage at Drew and decreases it at Abingdon. In reality, it’ll be a bit more than the 1-2 percentage points indicated because some parents aren’t going to send their kids to a school with an FRL rate over 60 percent, 20 percent higher than what they have now. It’ll be the kids who don’t have the luxury of going private or moving who go to Drew.

APS also shows what the numbers would be if South Fairlington was moved instead, though they are clear to note they are not proposing that. (They did 3 years ago and caved to a mob of angry parents who confronted them at a Kenmore Middle school meeting). But if SF were moved, both schools would be around 50 percent FRL. On paper, at least. I’d guess people would still bail on both schools but a 50% rate is better than 65%.

Hopefully when it comes time to really fill Drew, South Fairlington and Columbia Grove will both be on the table, and not just the latter.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/fall-2021-boundary-process/

Just pointing out that this thread has gone dormant — ample evidence that APS’s intention was to take the path of least resistance: make the poor schools poorer.

That's because there isn't much to talk about and nothing to object to. The only people being moved are the people who were moved the last time but didn't want to be moved. So they're getting moved back to where they wanted to be - nothing to object to. And they aren't recommending moving Fairlington; so again, nothing to pushback against.

This is correct. I'm in one of the planning units being moved. Happy to be going back to TJ and W-L over Gunston and Wakefield. Nothing to complain about.

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Anonymous wrote:APS posted the demographic impact of the proposed change. As expected, on paper, it marginally increases the level of disadvantage at Drew and decreases it at Abingdon. In reality, it’ll be a bit more than the 1-2 percentage points indicated because some parents aren’t going to send their kids to a school with an FRL rate over 60 percent, 20 percent higher than what they have now. It’ll be the kids who don’t have the luxury of going private or moving who go to Drew.

APS also shows what the numbers would be if South Fairlington was moved instead, though they are clear to note they are not proposing that. (They did 3 years ago and caved to a mob of angry parents who confronted them at a Kenmore Middle school meeting). But if SF were moved, both schools would be around 50 percent FRL. On paper, at least. I’d guess people would still bail on both schools but a 50% rate is better than 65%.

Hopefully when it comes time to really fill Drew, South Fairlington and Columbia Grove will both be on the table, and not just the latter.

https://www.apsva.us/engage/fall-2021-boundary-process/

Just pointing out that this thread has gone dormant — ample evidence that APS’s intention was to take the path of least resistance: make the poor schools poorer.

That's because there isn't much to talk about and nothing to object to. The only people being moved are the people who were moved the last time but didn't want to be moved. So they're getting moved back to where they wanted to be - nothing to object to. And they aren't recommending moving Fairlington; so again, nothing to pushback against.

This is correct. I'm in one of the planning units being moved. Happy to be going back to TJ and W-L over Gunston and Wakefield. Nothing to complain about.

Let’s hear from the families whose kids are moving from Abingdon to Drew. Stoked?

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Anonymous wrote:There is plants to object to you just don’t care. Drew still needs to be filled. APS cannot leave an elementary school at 70%.

Actually *I* DO care. But most people don't want to be moved to Drew and most people aren't directly impacted by this small boundary shift. Therefore, generally speaking, the larger community doesn't care because it doesn't directly affect them and they don't find anything objectionable enough to get involved.

Bingo. Everyone’s woke until their kids have to go to school with poor kids. Hypocrites.

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Bingo. Everyone’s woke until their kids have to go to school with poor kids. Hypocrites.

I get so sick of people talking on here like Abingdon is Jamestown. Abingdon has 45% FRL they already go to school with lots of poor kids. The families that live in south fairlington would probably prefer to have the option of their kids being able to bike or walk to school as opposed to being bused to a different school. Let’s say you move south fairlington to drew you now got abingdon close to 60% frl and drew at 45%. What good does that do. They need to adjust all the schools including “gulp” sending kids from south arlington to north arlington.

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Anonymous wrote:Bingo. Everyone’s woke until their kids have to go to school with poor kids. Hypocrites.

I get so sick of people talking on here like Abingdon is Jamestown. Abingdon has 45% FRL they already go to school with lots of poor kids. The families that live in south fairlington would probably prefer to have the option of their kids being able to bike or walk to school as opposed to being bused to a different school. Let’s say you move south fairlington to drew you now got abingdon close to 60% frl and drew at 45%. What good does that do. They need to adjust all the schools including “gulp” sending kids from south arlington to north arlington.

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