Map-M, would this kid get into a magnet program?

Anonymous
7th grade Spring Map-M score of 279. Is this just just good enough or is it high? Kid did Algebra this year. In the Algebraic score portion it was 294 but complex problems was in the 260s.

I understand Spring Map-M in 7th grade and Fall Map-M in 8th grade matter for magnet placement.

Those whose kids have gotten into a magnet program for high school, what was your kids scores in Spring and Fall and which high school did your kid go to?

For context, my kid has done no other supplemental Math besides Khan which is free and that is sporadic. Kid has aptitude but takes it very easy.

Anonymous
Noone knows what will happen with rising 7th graders. MCPS will be in a regional model. There's no clear plan on who is accepted on what terms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Noone knows what will happen with rising 7th graders. MCPS will be in a regional model. There's no clear plan on who is accepted on what terms.


OP said 7th now. Would be a rising 8th. Still would be under the new regions, so nobody really knows.
Anonymous
My kid got into the Blair SMCS magnet with a 7th grade spring MAP-M score of 271, and a slightly lower one in 8th grade fall. But as the other posters said, your kid will be part of the new regional programs, and nobody knows what that will look like.
Anonymous
Probably good enough for a new regional STEM program. Question is: are you comfortable to send your kid there as a guinea pig if your home HS is strong?
Anonymous
I guess some things is that OP might be asking if based on current standards, would their kid be eligible for the current magnet programs. Not necessarily if their kid will be able to get in when the time comes.

One issue to point out to OP is that if anyone is reviewing your kid's application, I don't think they will know or care if your student had any supplemental math or not. They'll just look at scores.

We knew students who scored in the 270s in fifth grade and they did get into the middle school magnet programs.

I don't know if it would qualify for high school magnet programs.

One thing another poster pointed out before is that the MAP baseline scores go up as students take more advanced math classes. And by 8th grade, the MAP scores aren't a real good indicator for things anymore. I think from what I can tell, this part might be true.
Anonymous
I just did a quick look through reports from the Accountability office and the closest report I can find is this:
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/detail.aspx?id=1548

The data is from the 2021-2022 school year.

Towards the end of the document it shows a mapping of MAP scores to MCAP scores. And based on my understanding, it shows a 279 MAP score mapping as above/out of the range of the MCAP Math 7 and Math 8 tests. For the Algebra I MCAP, it translates to a 789.

And based on this document showing cut scores:
https://support.mdassessments.com/resources/reporting/MCAP-Cut%2520Scores.pdf

and looks like it's from around 2021-2022 as well, it looks like a 789 is toward the lower end of a 4/Distinguished Learner. And in other posts on here, posters mention how only fifteen percent of students get a 4 on their MCAP. Looking at mdreportcard, it looks like fiver percent or less of students got a 4 on the Algebra I MCAP in 2025. And it looks the same for 2022.
Anonymous
The Blair magnet will be much easier to get into if you live in the future new region 1. Approximately 2/3 of the current Blair magnet students are from Churchill HS area and current Wootton area. The new science and math magnet will be in Region 4, situated at Wootton -Crown, unless Taylor dies another phenomenally stupid thing like separate Wootton and Churchill into different regions. Of course it will be for "equity," the reason he is using to trash Blair HS' magnet.
Anonymous
It's kind of a random comment on here but there's a post on this thread:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1253541.page

That says that the Blair admissions officer said that the median MAP-M score for students accepted the previous year, 2024?, was 273
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:7th grade Spring Map-M score of 279. Is this just just good enough or is it high? Kid did Algebra this year. In the Algebraic score portion it was 294 but complex problems was in the 260s.

I understand Spring Map-M in 7th grade and Fall Map-M in 8th grade matter for magnet placement.

Those whose kids have gotten into a magnet program for high school, what was your kids scores in Spring and Fall and which high school did your kid go to?

For context, my kid has done no other supplemental Math besides Khan which is free and that is sporadic. Kid has aptitude but takes it very easy.



Between the SMCS, IB, and humanities magnets, there will be enough spots for about the top 10% of kids in each grade in their region. If those programs are equally desirable in your region there should be no problem (and it will be even easier if kids pass them up because they are unproven, at "undesirable" schools, and/or because the transportation is bad.) Even if all the top kids want SMCS and are able to swing it transportation-wise (which seems unlikely), you'd just need to be roughly in the top 3%.

(This is assuming they don't switch to lottery for these programs next year, which I don't think they will but also don't 100% put it past them to. We'll find out in a few months, I guess!)
Anonymous
Mine didn’t get in with 279 in 7th, and slightly lower in 8th
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:7th grade Spring Map-M score of 279. Is this just just good enough or is it high? Kid did Algebra this year. In the Algebraic score portion it was 294 but complex problems was in the 260s.



The 4 MAP-M subscores are:

Operations and Algebraic Thinking

The Real and Complex Number Systems

Geometry

Statistics and Probability

https://www.nwea.org/uploads/2021/11/MAP-Growth-Technical-Report-2019_NWEA.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I guess some things is that OP might be asking if based on current standards, would their kid be eligible for the current magnet programs. Not necessarily if their kid will be able to get in when the time comes.

One issue to point out to OP is that if anyone is reviewing your kid's application, I don't think they will know or care if your student had any supplemental math or not. They'll just look at scores.

We knew students who scored in the 270s in fifth grade and they did get into the middle school magnet programs.

I don't know if it would qualify for high school magnet programs.

One thing another poster pointed out before is that the MAP baseline scores go up as students take more advanced math classes. And by 8th grade, the MAP scores aren't a real good indicator for things anymore. I think from what I can tell, this part might be true.


OP here. Could you explain about why MAP-M will not be a good indicator in 8th grade? What should we be looking into then? My kid was stuck in the 260s in 6th grade but after taking Algebra the score did go up like you say.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:7th grade Spring Map-M score of 279. Is this just just good enough or is it high? Kid did Algebra this year. In the Algebraic score portion it was 294 but complex problems was in the 260s.



The 4 MAP-M subscores are:

Operations and Algebraic Thinking

The Real and Complex Number Systems

Geometry

Statistics and Probability

https://www.nwea.org/uploads/2021/11/MAP-Growth-Technical-Report-2019_NWEA.pdf


Op here. Which part of these is a good indicator that the kid is on an advanced level? Mine got 290+ in Algebraic thinking, 260+ in real and complex number systems. I think it was in the 270's in the statistics and probability and 260s in geometry. I need to check it again and see.

If we're to get supplemental Math, what should we focus on?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:7th grade Spring Map-M score of 279. Is this just just good enough or is it high? Kid did Algebra this year. In the Algebraic score portion it was 294 but complex problems was in the 260s.



The 4 MAP-M subscores are:

Operations and Algebraic Thinking

The Real and Complex Number Systems

Geometry

Statistics and Probability

https://www.nwea.org/uploads/2021/11/MAP-Growth-Technical-Report-2019_NWEA.pdf


Op here. Which part of these is a good indicator that the kid is on an advanced level? Mine got 290+ in Algebraic thinking, 260+ in real and complex number systems. I think it was in the 270's in the statistics and probability and 260s in geometry. I need to check it again and see.

If we're to get supplemental Math, what should we focus on?



Multivariable Calculus and Differential Equations. And while you're at it, teach them Topological Calculus too.
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