"Aging out" of assisted living?

[Anonymous]

Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

[Anonymous]

There are facilities that can provide the full range of services from assisted living through end of life. Sounds like that is what you are looking for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

How about if we move a parent into assisted living already on hospice and with our own private hospice care team (that we pay for)?

[Anonymous]

I have limited experience with this, but my grandmother’s assisted living facility required residents to be able to dress themselves, and feed themselves in the facility’s communal dining room. Residents were not to eat meals in their private rooms. These were opportunities for the staff to observe the residents and assess their condition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have limited experience with this, but my grandmother’s assisted living facility required residents to be able to dress themselves, and feed themselves in the facility’s communal dining room. Residents were not to eat meals in their private rooms. These were opportunities for the staff to observe the residents and assess their condition.

NP. This sounds like my grandmother's Independent Living facility. Interesting that this is the same for assisted.

OP, if your loved one is on Hospice care, I think there are facilities for this, if you don't do it in home. The Hospice meds have to be strictly followed and tracked. Every ml accounted for. If there is a discrepancy then someone has to be held accountable. I can see an assisted living facility not wanting that responsibility. But I don't know this for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

How about if we move a parent into assisted living already on hospice and with our own private hospice care team (that we pay for)?

Doubtful, assisted living centers are only allowed to accept certain types of residents and that doesn’t include people who need assistance with daily life skills. Since hospice nurses aren’t under their suoerviisio or employment, that doesn’t change what the calculus.

There are some really nice hospice centers. I’d look into those

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

How about if we move a parent into assisted living already on hospice and with our own private hospice care team (that we pay for)?

I don't think assisted living is going to let someone on hospice move in.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

How about if we move a parent into assisted living already on hospice and with our own private hospice care team (that we pay for)?

Doubtful, assisted living centers are only allowed to accept certain types of residents and that doesn’t include people who need assistance with daily life skills. Since hospice nurses aren’t under their suoerviisio or employment, that doesn’t change what the calculus.

There are some really nice hospice centers. I’d look into those

This is what I'm tryin to find out. Is this covered by law or just the regulations of the facility? Parent DOES NOT want to go into a nursing home but will consider assisted living environment. We want to figure out timing on the move if any. So is there a law governing what kind of needs are too much for the facility to accept, or do we just find one willing to let them in? And when?

[Anonymous]

Some will do something called a "hospice overlay". Work with the Admissions Director of where your loved one currently is. Or call a center that you're interested in and see what they offer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

How about if we move a parent into assisted living already on hospice and with our own private hospice care team (that we pay for)?

Doubtful, assisted living centers are only allowed to accept certain types of residents and that doesn’t include people who need assistance with daily life skills. Since hospice nurses aren’t under their suoerviisio or employment, that doesn’t change what the calculus.

There are some really nice hospice centers. I’d look into those

This is what I'm tryin to find out. Is this covered by law or just the regulations of the facility? Parent DOES NOT want to go into a nursing home but will consider assisted living environment. We want to figure out timing on the move if any. So is there a law governing what kind of needs are too much for the facility to accept, or do we just find one willing to let them in? And when?

What does your parent need now? Can they manage in assisted living currently or do they need more care? How are their financial resources?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

How about if we move a parent into assisted living already on hospice and with our own private hospice care team (that we pay for)?

Doubtful, assisted living centers are only allowed to accept certain types of residents and that doesn’t include people who need assistance with daily life skills. Since hospice nurses aren’t under their suoerviisio or employment, that doesn’t change what the calculus.

There are some really nice hospice centers. I’d look into those

This is what I'm tryin to find out. Is this covered by law or just the regulations of the facility? Parent DOES NOT want to go into a nursing home but will consider assisted living environment. We want to figure out timing on the move if any. So is there a law governing what kind of needs are too much for the facility to accept, or do we just find one willing to let them in? And when?

I only know Maryland law but the answer is yes. Assisted living facilities aren’t allowed to accept patients who need skilled nursing. That’s the trade off for being less regulated than nursing homes. Your mom doesn’t have to move to a nursing home, there are hospice centers than offer services on site, I think you will find some, of them to be “nicer” than nursing homes.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

How about if we move a parent into assisted living already on hospice and with our own private hospice care team (that we pay for)?

Doubtful, assisted living centers are only allowed to accept certain types of residents and that doesn’t include people who need assistance with daily life skills. Since hospice nurses aren’t under their suoerviisio or employment, that doesn’t change what the calculus.

There are some really nice hospice centers. I’d look into those

This is what I'm tryin to find out. Is this covered by law or just the regulations of the facility? Parent DOES NOT want to go into a nursing home but will consider assisted living environment. We want to figure out timing on the move if any. So is there a law governing what kind of needs are too much for the facility to accept, or do we just find one willing to let them in? And when?

There are licensing requirements, but there are facilities licensed for multiple care levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some will do something called a "hospice overlay". Work with the Admissions Director of where your loved one currently is. Or call a center that you're interested in and see what they offer.

I think where it would get difficult is at the end, when basically the person needs 24/7 care. For my dad, we had 24 hour care + the hospice team.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any laws regarding what services MUST be given to a resident of an assisted living facility? As they decline, can their needs become so great that they may be asked to move to a nursing home?

On the other hand, can someone already on hospice care move into an assisted living facility rather than a nursing home/skilled care facility if they have their own private hospice care team already in place?

Trying to think a few steps ahead. Thanks.

You can get kicked out of an assisted living facility and often you aren't given much time.

How about if we move a parent into assisted living already on hospice and with our own private hospice care team (that we pay for)?

Doubtful, assisted living centers are only allowed to accept certain types of residents and that doesn’t include people who need assistance with daily life skills. Since hospice nurses aren’t under their suoerviisio or employment, that doesn’t change what the calculus.

There are some really nice hospice centers. I’d look into those

This is what I'm tryin to find out. Is this covered by law or just the regulations of the facility? Parent DOES NOT want to go into a nursing home but will consider assisted living environment. We want to figure out timing on the move if any. So is there a law governing what kind of needs are too much for the facility to accept, or do we just find one willing to let them in? And when?

There are licensing requirements, but there are facilities licensed for multiple care levels.

Though generally they are not housed in the same area. Independent, Assisted and Skilled (and Memory) are separate as each of those groups don't want to have to see all that the more advanced group is going through.