Kavanaugh Accuser reveals her Identity

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Anonymous wrote:If Kavanaugh does not get confirmed, there will never be another man appointed to the SC.


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LOL. Never is a long time.


+1 Somehow I don't think the downfall of Kavanaugh equals the downfall of men in the legal profession. Just a guess.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a tawdry tale, and seems 100% politically motivated. If the story is 100% true, BK is guilty of sexual assault, and his nomination should be withdrawn. There is now so much nuance in the sexual-assault definition, from an unwanted kiss to a drunken, grinding hug, to outright rape, that the line cannot be reasonably drawn.

My guess is the accuser and accused and witness will be heard this week or next and the Committee will report to the full Senate either pro or con, and the full Senate will vote before the SC term begins Oct 1.

Several outcomes:

The story is 100% true and she is a credible witness with no political axe to grind, and the other witness backs up her story, and BK is not credible. Then his nomination will be pulled or go down on the Senate floor.

The story is “he-said, she-said,” the witness is not supportive either way, but she is credible and apolitical. Then I still think he is defeated.

The story is “he-said, she-said,” the witness supports BK’s story, but she is credible and apolitical. Then I think he is confirmed, but narrowly.

The story is “he-said, she-said,” the witness supports BK’s story, it comes out that she and her lawyer are highly political, and some of the Feinstein machinations are exposed publicly. Then I think he is confirmed unanimously by the Republican majority, with some red-state Democratic support as well.

The story is “he-said, she-said,” the witness supports BK’s story, she and her lawyer have a political axe to grind, and there are no contemporaneous witnesses from 35 years ago and no other women have come forward and BK’s female-letter support increases, there are inconsistencies in her story and overall recollection (along with her therapist’s story), then I think she may be perceived as a Cheryl Mangrum (Duke lacrosse farce) or “Jackie” (Rolling Stone hoax, Haven Monaghan) and she loses all credibility, and he is confirmed with over 60 votes.

It is so sad that we have come to this moment politically, with so much animosity on both sides. Recall that Justice Scalia was confirmed unanimously to the SC just 32 years ago (98-0!) before Ted Kennedy delivered his infamous Bork speech in 1987 that initiated the divisiveness. Consider also that this is a Trump nomination; if BK were Obama’s pick, he’d be swiftly confirmed.

A final irony is that BK is slightly right-of center, and Merrick Garland was slightly left-of-center and they agreed on a lot.

Could not read past the bolded. All of what you described is sexual assault. Next.


I beg to differ. The cure for an unwanted kiss, or even an attempted kiss, used to be a hard slap across the face. The nuance has emerged since women became much more sexually active (pre-marriage) than they were formally because they had so much more to lose, pre-Roe and pre-Pill. Clearly what BK is accused of constitutes unwanted sexual assault, but I would argue even many women have experienced something similar, and it many not have traumatized many as much as the current accuser. Men stil generally pursue women in the vast majority of cases, but the signals from the pursued are markedly different than they were 50-60 years ago.

The "cure" as a hard slap doesn't discount that a nonconsensual kiss is assault. Plenty of men -- old and young -- don't have a problem with figuring out whether they have consent for a kiss, touching, sex, etc.
Anonymous
I am a big Trump supprorter and liked Kavanaugh, but these allegations are deeply troubling to me, and I would support the President withdrawing his nomination at this time. We simply don’t have enough time before the midterms for this to play out with any guarantee that we can still get a reliable conservative through in case the balance in the House shifts, not to mention the trouble this is causing for the swing votes in the Senate. It’s just not worth the risk given the number of alternates that are available. Time to move on in my opinion. The focus needs to be on confirming an air tight nominee and winning in November, not on this sideshow. Sorry Brett.
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“As the Right tries to sell “Bad behavior of a 17 y/o has no bearing on a 53 y/o,” remember they overwhelmingly support policies that treat 17 y/os as adults, sentence 17 y/os to life w/o any possibility of parole, & burden 17 y/os w/ criminal records limiting opportunity forever.”
- public defender Scott Hechinger
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Anonymous wrote:I am a big Trump supprorter and liked Kavanaugh, but these allegations are deeply troubling to me, and I would support the President withdrawing his nomination at this time. We simply don’t have enough time before the midterms for this to play out with any guarantee that we can still get a reliable conservative through in case the balance in the House shifts, not to mention the trouble this is causing for the swing votes in the Senate. It’s just not worth the risk given the number of alternates that are available. Time to move on in my opinion. The focus needs to be on confirming an air tight nominee and winning in November, not on this sideshow. Sorry Brett.

That is the strategic play, though I wouldn't be surprised if Trump and/or the Senate GOP dug in their heels. If they were smart, they'd withdraw Kavanaugh, and nominate someone much more confirmable, if conservative. Then if Democrats fought it they could suggest they were being real obstructionists.
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Anonymous wrote:Man. She is very credible.


Have you ever known or been a high school girl? Here's a little secret: a story like this would have been shared contemporaneously. NOT saved for years. Had she been raped, she might not have shared, but this is the kind of story a girl would share. Hiding in the bathroom, etc.

She doesn't remember what year it was?
She doesn't remember how she left the house?

If it had happened and was that traumatic, she would have remembered.



Have you ever been sexually assaulted? How do you know how a person does or does not behave, or what they would or would not remember?




NP. Yes. And I remember every detail +40 years later.


So you do remember the year, etc?


Of course!

That's good, doesn't discount the experiences of those who don't remember with such specificity.


It actually does. I can remember minor things in college where a guy was grabby and drunk - who cares? But that incident I remember, along with the one my freshman year in college where two townies tried to lock me in my dorm room. My friend Rusty heard through the walls and stopped it cold. When you are in danger, you remember. But then I wasn’t drunk both times, etc.
Anonymous
Sounds like the White House wanted a private conference call with the two parties and the vote to continue on Thursday. But there are too many Senators asking for a public hearing.

If there is no public hearing, Kavanaugh will not be confirmed.
Anonymous
Next Dem move - no public testimony because she’s distraught. Wait for it
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a big Trump supprorter and liked Kavanaugh, but these allegations are deeply troubling to me, and I would support the President withdrawing his nomination at this time. We simply don’t have enough time before the midterms for this to play out with any guarantee that we can still get a reliable conservative through in case the balance in the House shifts, not to mention the trouble this is causing for the swing votes in the Senate. It’s just not worth the risk given the number of alternates that are available. Time to move on in my opinion. The focus needs to be on confirming an air tight nominee and winning in November, not on this sideshow. Sorry Brett.

That is the strategic play, though I wouldn't be surprised if Trump and/or the Senate GOP dug in their heels. If they were smart, they'd withdraw Kavanaugh, and nominate someone much more confirmable, if conservative. Then if Democrats fought it they could suggest they were being real obstructionists.

He could nominate Merrick Garland.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Next Dem move - no public testimony because she’s distraught. Wait for it


Her attorney already said she would testify. Stop making things up.
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Anonymous wrote:Next Dem move - no public testimony because she’s distraught. Wait for it

Jack Posobiec doxxed her. How many death threats from RWNJs would it take for you to feel distraught?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a big Trump supprorter and liked Kavanaugh, but these allegations are deeply troubling to me, and I would support the President withdrawing his nomination at this time. We simply don’t have enough time before the midterms for this to play out with any guarantee that we can still get a reliable conservative through in case the balance in the House shifts, not to mention the trouble this is causing for the swing votes in the Senate. It’s just not worth the risk given the number of alternates that are available. Time to move on in my opinion. The focus needs to be on confirming an air tight nominee and winning in November, not on this sideshow. Sorry Brett.

That is the strategic play, though I wouldn't be surprised if Trump and/or the Senate GOP dug in their heels. If they were smart, they'd withdraw Kavanaugh, and nominate someone much more confirmable, if conservative. Then if Democrats fought it they could suggest they were being real obstructionists.

He could nominate Merrick Garland.


+1000

A moderate judge who is already vetted and will sail thru the confirmation process.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Next Dem move - no public testimony because she’s distraught. Wait for it


Her attorney already said she would testify. Stop making things up.


+1. It’s Grassley and other Rs who want this taken care of with phone calls instead of public hearings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a big Trump supprorter and liked Kavanaugh, but these allegations are deeply troubling to me, and I would support the President withdrawing his nomination at this time. We simply don’t have enough time before the midterms for this to play out with any guarantee that we can still get a reliable conservative through in case the balance in the House shifts, not to mention the trouble this is causing for the swing votes in the Senate. It’s just not worth the risk given the number of alternates that are available. Time to move on in my opinion. The focus needs to be on confirming an air tight nominee and winning in November, not on this sideshow. Sorry Brett.

That is the strategic play, though I wouldn't be surprised if Trump and/or the Senate GOP dug in their heels. If they were smart, they'd withdraw Kavanaugh, and nominate someone much more confirmable, if conservative. Then if Democrats fought it they could suggest they were being real obstructionists.

He could nominate Merrick Garland.


No, I said reliable conservative. Just dust off the short list. As I recall, there was an excellent female judge from Indiana who we could confirm in no time. Probably the best choice at this point. Every nomination is highly dependent on timing, and we are at a critical juncture this late in the year. Garland was the last President’s choice, and he got nowhere because of timing and the political climate at that time. It was a real strategic win for Republicans, and they need to be smart and strategic again to assure another win this time around.
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