why don't college push College Board more?

[Anonymous]

Back in 2017, Colby and right after then U Chicago decided they'd let kids self report SAT scores instead of having kids pay College Board $15 or so per application to report scores. And within years, this was standard. It did nothing for colleges - but didn't hurt them either. It was purely for students. There was an unknown downside risk - what if kids lie when they self report. But colleges guess kids wouldnt - because it would have been useless - and they didn't.

It did take a lot of money from The College Board.

Why don't colleges try this again. For example, if colleges would require high schools to include on transcript how many colleges this student has applied to (hs has sent transcript to), apps would eventually tick down a bit.

Or maybe some other ideas?

[Anonymous]

+1
They have an unsavory monopoly and also sell kids' data

[Anonymous]

Are you crazy? Colleges shouldn’t know how many schools kids apply to. Colleges have all of the advantages in this process. Why give them another one?

[Anonymous]

Why should teenagers be put at even more of a disadvantage in this stressful process?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back in 2017, Colby and right after then U Chicago decided they'd let kids self report SAT scores instead of having kids pay College Board $15 or so per application to report scores. And within years, this was standard. It did nothing for colleges - but didn't hurt them either. It was purely for students. There was an unknown downside risk - what if kids lie when they self report. But colleges guess kids wouldnt - because it would have been useless - and they didn't.

It did take a lot of money from The College Board.

Why don't colleges try this again. For example, if colleges would require high schools to include on transcript how many colleges this student has applied to (hs has sent transcript to), apps would eventually tick down a bit.

Or maybe some other ideas?

You can self report at a lot of schools when you apply, but you have to send the official report when you get in.

[Anonymous]

My kid's school only allows students to apply to 12 schools. They feature this restriction prominently on their school profile as a way of signaling that every application is a serious one. I think that helps with admissions and definitely helps with the time suck that is the application process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back in 2017, Colby and right after then U Chicago decided they'd let kids self report SAT scores instead of having kids pay College Board $15 or so per application to report scores. And within years, this was standard. It did nothing for colleges - but didn't hurt them either. It was purely for students. There was an unknown downside risk - what if kids lie when they self report. But colleges guess kids wouldnt - because it would have been useless - and they didn't.

It did take a lot of money from The College Board.

Why don't colleges try this again. For example, if colleges would require high schools to include on transcript how many colleges this student has applied to (hs has sent transcript to), apps would eventually tick down a bit.

Or maybe some other ideas?

This isn't workable at all. All a high school would report is the number of schools they already sent the transcript to. It's a snapshot in time. Also what public high school has the resources to do that? none.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back in 2017, Colby and right after then U Chicago decided they'd let kids self report SAT scores instead of having kids pay College Board $15 or so per application to report scores. And within years, this was standard. It did nothing for colleges - but didn't hurt them either. It was purely for students. There was an unknown downside risk - what if kids lie when they self report. But colleges guess kids wouldnt - because it would have been useless - and they didn't.

It did take a lot of money from The College Board.

Why don't colleges try this again. For example, if colleges would require high schools to include on transcript how many colleges this student has applied to (hs has sent transcript to), apps would eventually tick down a bit.

Or maybe some other ideas?

Wow this is beyond stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you crazy? Colleges shouldn’t know how many schools kids apply to. Colleges have all of the advantages in this process. Why give them another one?

I dont think this is true. My kids go to one of those schools that limit apps, and the head of counseling told parents colleges have told him to put that in BIG LETTERS on the school profile because it helps the kids so much. If a school knows the kid is only applying to 7 schools and not 27, it matters. Apps never get yield protected for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back in 2017, Colby and right after then U Chicago decided they'd let kids self report SAT scores instead of having kids pay College Board $15 or so per application to report scores. And within years, this was standard. It did nothing for colleges - but didn't hurt them either. It was purely for students. There was an unknown downside risk - what if kids lie when they self report. But colleges guess kids wouldnt - because it would have been useless - and they didn't.

It did take a lot of money from The College Board.

Why don't colleges try this again. For example, if colleges would require high schools to include on transcript how many colleges this student has applied to (hs has sent transcript to), apps would eventually tick down a bit.

Or maybe some other ideas?

You can self report at a lot of schools when you apply, but you have to send the official report when you get in.

yes, you have to report it to one. which is why it works and people dont' lie. before 2017, parents had to pay for SAT scores to be sent to every school and manage all that with CB's insane system. it's a small improvement.

[Anonymous]

I think this should be on the common app and update as apps go in. I also think it should be noted if a kid applied to an ED and be confirmed in they were accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you crazy? Colleges shouldn’t know how many schools kids apply to. Colleges have all of the advantages in this process. Why give them another one?

I dont think this is true. My kids go to one of those schools that limit apps, and the head of counseling told parents colleges have told him to put that in BIG LETTERS on the school profile because it helps the kids so much. If a school knows the kid is only applying to 7 schools and not 27, it matters. Apps never get yield protected for example.

But a kid should be able to apply to 27 without penalty.

You’re advocating for schools limiting applicants.

[Anonymous]

How about asking them to recenter the scores back to how they used to be. Back in our day, over 1400 would give you a good chance at an Ivy (at least at my highly competitive suburban public school). Now that is probably 1500 - too much score compression. And it isn't because kids are that much smarter and/or better prepared.

Also, kill all of the bogus AP classes. AP Pre-Calc? Really? If there were fewer APs there would be less pressure on kids to take them. I know that for some kids it helps them pay for fewer years of college, but for most it is a ridiculous competition that shouldn't exist. So glad my kid goes to a school without APs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid's school only allows students to apply to 12 schools. They feature this restriction prominently on their school profile as a way of signaling that every application is a serious one. I think that helps with admissions and definitely helps with the time suck that is the application process.

It’s not your kids schools decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you crazy? Colleges shouldn’t know how many schools kids apply to. Colleges have all of the advantages in this process. Why give them another one?

I dont think this is true. My kids go to one of those schools that limit apps, and the head of counseling told parents colleges have told him to put that in BIG LETTERS on the school profile because it helps the kids so much. If a school knows the kid is only applying to 7 schools and not 27, it matters. Apps never get yield protected for example.

You being full pay helps, not limited applications.