| I keep reading that where you go to college doesn’t matter for jobs. If that’s the case why would anyone bend over backwards to get into a good college? |
| Well, no one is getting jobs now… |
| Because despite the enduring lower middle class belief that college = trade school, it doesn’t. |
| Maybe what you're reading isn't true. |
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I mean because it's complicated. The high ranked schools can get you the prestige and connections. However, they aren't guaranteed by any means, you have to be in the right places, perform in class/lab/internships and then make the connections.
It also depends on your field. There are some people who are more old school and will only look at people from certain school (law, business, finance you can find people like that). One of the oldest stories I ever heard was Justice Scalia talking about the best law clerk he'd had was one he inherited from another judge, but then Scalia said he never would have hired the guy because he went to Ohio State and he only takes clerks from Harvard and Yale. But also those connections do exist at other schools? Sure. And they matter much less in certain fields. |
| Morgan Stanley laying off 3% of workforce….. |
Have you heard the word “copium”? |
Maybe because they want an amazing education with great professors and fellow students. You think college is only about getting a good job? Are you first gen or something? |
Ouch! |
They don't provide a better education either. It's clout chasing. |
| I went to an ivy-league art school. There were professors there I wanted to work with. There were resources there, like a library and galleries. I wouldn't say it lead to a better career, but I felt like I learned so much. |
Huh? We enriched, accelerated and supplemented our kids education at home from K-12 but the end game was not good college or good job. The idea was to make them well-informed, develop their intellect and problem solving capabilities, make them flexible thinkers and eventually resilient. While the good college and good job happened...it was not the main aim. Don't want my kids to remain ignorant just because the school system and education system is meh. |
For the peer challenge, for one reason. Second, for the ivy+ schools (ivies stanford MIT Duke Chicago) it has been shown that attending increases the chances for the top levels of certain career paths, ie topmost med schools, top law, top consulting, quantitative finance. The next set of schools were not studied specifically but likely provide a next-best boost (WAS, JHU, Northwestern, WashU, Rice, UCB, CMU, 4-5 more) It matters. |
This. The environment provided by the highest concentration of top students and top professors creates a different level of education not replicated at schools outside T15/ivy |
You could have made this point without disparaging people whose parents did not attend college. |