If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

[Anonymous]

This question was posed in another thread.

One response was: "Depends - It would certainly be the end of the "I'm destroying the world because God told me to" syndrome. But people would likely find some other reason to do evil things."

What do you think?

[Anonymous]

Better

Christians in the US support a child sexual abuser and a criminal liar. While hiding behind their bibles. They support controlling women as well.
The answers is religion is a cult therefore no need for that crap

[Anonymous]

I don't think anything would change. I'm an atheist - I think religion was created by humans. Like all things created by humans, religion is a tool. People will use it however it suits them as they already are.

People who are decent with religion, would still be decent.

People who are decent without religion, would still be decent.

People who use religion to justify and excuse being a crappy human, would still be crappy.

People who are crappy without religion, would still be crappy.

[Anonymous]

Religion isn’t the cause of evil; it’s just one of many narratives people use to justify behavior they already want to engage in. If God disappeared tomorrow, the same impulses would get dressed up as ideology, nationalism, or “I’m right, and you’re wrong.” Religion can elevate people or excuse them, but the engine is human nature, not faith.

[Anonymous]

The New World explorers and conquistadores allegedly were trying to save the heathens. But really it was about land, slaves, gold, silver, gems.

[Anonymous]

It would be the same as greed and just for power will remain

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be the same as greed and just for power will remain

lust for power

[Anonymous]

John Lennon tried to imagine this 50 years ago and all he got out of it was a sh!tty pop song.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:John Lennon tried to imagine this 50 years ago and all he got out of it was a sh!tty pop song.

Tell us more about your own musical accomplishments!

So we can compare, here's a roster of what Wikipedia has on Imagine:
BMI named "Imagine" one of the 100 most performed songs of the 20th century. In 1999, it was ranked number 30 on the RIAA's list of the 365 "Songs of the Century", earned a Grammy Hall of Fame Award, and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's "500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll". Rolling Stone ranked it number 3 in its 2004 list of the "500 Greatest Songs of All Time", repositioned to number 19 in the 2021 revision. Meanwhile, a UK survey conducted by the Guinness World Records British Hit Singles Book in 2002 named it the second-best single of all time. Since 2005, the song has been either played or performed in the final minutes leading up to the New Year's Times Square Ball Drop event in New York City. In 2023, the song was selected for preservation in the United States National Recording Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

"Imagine" has sold more than 1.7 million copies in the UK. More than 200 artists have performed or covered the song, including Madonna, Stevie Wonder, Joan Baez, Lady Gaga, David Bowie, Elton John and Diana Ross. After "Imagine" was featured at the 2012 Summer Olympics, the song re-entered the UK Top 40, reaching number 18, and was presented as a theme song in the opening ceremony of the 2022 Winter Olympics. The song has remained a source of controversy since its initial release over its lyrics.[5]

[Anonymous]

People are just inherently evil and bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:John Lennon tried to imagine this 50 years ago and all he got out of it was a sh!tty pop song.

Tell us more about your own musical accomplishments!

So we can compare, here's a roster of what Wikipedia has on Imagine:
BMI named "Imagine" one of the 100 most performed songs of the 20th century. In 1999, it was ranked number 30 on the RIAA's list of the 365 "Songs of the Century", earned a Grammy Hall of Fame Award, and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's "500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll". Rolling Stone ranked it number 3 in its 2004 list of the "500 Greatest Songs of All Time", repositioned to number 19 in the 2021 revision. Meanwhile, a UK survey conducted by the Guinness World Records British Hit Singles Book in 2002 named it the second-best single of all time. Since 2005, the song has been either played or performed in the final minutes leading up to the New Year's Times Square Ball Drop event in New York City. In 2023, the song was selected for preservation in the United States National Recording Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

"Imagine" has sold more than 1.7 million copies in the UK. More than 200 artists have performed or covered the song, including Madonna, Stevie Wonder, Joan Baez, Lady Gaga, David Bowie, Elton John and Diana Ross. After "Imagine" was featured at the 2012 Summer Olympics, the song re-entered the UK Top 40, reaching number 18, and was presented as a theme song in the opening ceremony of the 2022 Winter Olympics. The song has remained a source of controversy since its initial release over its lyrics.[5]

Thank you for rescuing John Lennon! By pasting from Wikipedia you have established yourself as credible and thoughtful. Definitely not a parrot of absolute drivel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This question was posed in another thread.

One response was: "Depends - It would certainly be the end of the "I'm destroying the world because God told me to" syndrome. But people would likely find some other reason to do evil things."

What do you think?

All religion exists to manipulate people and control behavior. People made up a bunch of stories about sky fairies and zombies to make them fearful about what happens when they die. The holy books also were useful for teaching basic food hygiene lessons, such as eating shellfish and pork. So, if you took away the superstitions that made humans behave more civilly, yah, you'd probably have more "evil things" happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This question was posed in another thread.

One response was: "Depends - It would certainly be the end of the "I'm destroying the world because God told me to" syndrome. But people would likely find some other reason to do evil things."

What do you think?

All religion exists to manipulate people and control behavior. People made up a bunch of stories about sky fairies and zombies to make them fearful about what happens when they die. The holy books also were useful for teaching basic food hygiene lessons, such as eating shellfish and pork. So, if you took away the superstitions that made humans behave more civilly, yah, you'd probably have more "evil things" happening.

Except people are still doing these "evil things" that there are superstitions related to. In the thread about some pastor cheating on his wife someone wrote "christians are people too, we all sin!" so they will find any excuse to justify it. Or say that you just need to beg jesus' forgiveness after and youre square. Why are there so many religious people that molest children? They literally teach biblical "morals" and are committing horrific acts.

I believe the world would be a better place without religion. Because at least people would have to own their shitty behaviour instead of hiding behind a facade.

[Anonymous]

But wouldn't evildoers just own it? They could hide behind skin color, identity politics, IQ test scores, political party identification, whatever.
Remember John Lennon said NO COUNTRIES AND NO POSSESIONS TOO

[Anonymous]

It will be the same, it is the human condition.