100K for Child Wrongful Medical Death in the UK

[Anonymous]

Is that fair?

I know we debate all the time about tort reform here.

Wrongful death by NHS providers and services = 100K for a 1 year old that died of sepsis.

If it were my 1 year old? I spent 60K alone on IVF to get him here. We've spent 30K on daycare. Not to mention the cost to "carry" him is around 150-200K if I were a surrogate.

It's at least 100K just to get a baby earthside. As a settlement it seems like a slap in the face. Am I wrong?

I think 300-500K seems more "reasonable"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is that fair?

I know we debate all the time about tort reform here.

Wrongful death by NHS providers and services = 100K for a 1 year old that died of sepsis.

If it were my 1 year old? I spent 60K alone on IVF to get him here. We've spent 30K on daycare. Not to mention the cost to "carry" him is around 150-200K if I were a surrogate.

It's at least 100K just to get a baby earthside. As a settlement it seems like a slap in the face. Am I wrong?

I think 300-500K seems more "reasonable"

Those were your costs in the US, right? Presumably they would have been less in the UK. If you qualify for IVF, it's covered by the NHS, right? At least that was my understanding, but it might be outdated.

And daycare - how long would your family leave be? My colleagues in the UK are out for a year after they have their babies.

[Anonymous]

As a parent, I’d see it less as being compensated (my child is priceless, I can’t put a price on them!) and more that I want it to hurt those who were negligent so badly they never make that same mistake again.

I don’t know how it works in the UK, but in the US the healthcare system is completely corrupt and a $100k fine for a hospital is literally nothing. They’ll shrug it off and go right back to hurting people.

[Anonymous]

If it were my 1 year old? I spent 60K alone on IVF to get him here. We've spent 30K on daycare. Not to mention the cost to "carry" him is around 150-200K if I were a surrogate.

Dude. That's no way to talk about a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is that fair?

I know we debate all the time about tort reform here.

Wrongful death by NHS providers and services = 100K for a 1 year old that died of sepsis.

If it were my 1 year old? I spent 60K alone on IVF to get him here. We've spent 30K on daycare. Not to mention the cost to "carry" him is around 150-200K if I were a surrogate.

It's at least 100K just to get a baby earthside. As a settlement it seems like a slap in the face. Am I wrong?

I think 300-500K seems more "reasonable"

Those were your costs in the US, right? Presumably they would have been less in the UK. If you qualify for IVF, it's covered by the NHS, right? At least that was my understanding, but it might be outdated.

And daycare - how long would your family leave be? My colleagues in the UK are out for a year after they have their babies.

It's free for very limited circumstances, so most have to pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is that fair?

I know we debate all the time about tort reform here.

Wrongful death by NHS providers and services = 100K for a 1 year old that died of sepsis.

If it were my 1 year old? I spent 60K alone on IVF to get him here. We've spent 30K on daycare. Not to mention the cost to "carry" him is around 150-200K if I were a surrogate.

It's at least 100K just to get a baby earthside. As a settlement it seems like a slap in the face. Am I wrong?

I think 300-500K seems more "reasonable"

Is there a particular story?

What makes sense will vary. You're probably starting with a skewed view because of US settlements will include large amounts that go to the health insurance company, the lawyers, and expert witnesses. When we looked into bringing a malpractice case, the first $200,000 of any settlement was going to have to go to our insurance company.

Then there's past and future actual damages. If malpractice causes a need for ongoing care, then the settlement or lawsuit amount will need to cover that, too. So cases involving death, particularly in kids and the elderly, won't necessarily be that much.

Time off from work should be compensated to a reasonable degree of what was necessary. And something for pain and suffering, although I'd probably come to a lower number on that than you.

But you seem to be wanting punitive damages. I'm skeptical of those. If it was a legitimate mistake/error, then there shouldn't be punitive damages. If there was willful negligence, then you quickly get into areas where the criminal justice system should get involved. Is there room in the middle for monetary punitive damages? I suppose, but I think the threat of them generally does more harm than good.

I don't think malpractice suits are a good solution to holding bad doctors accountable. We need to revamp state medical boards and find a way to staff them without relying on practicing physicians. We need to revamp state medical boards. They should have more independent professional staff without relying on practicing physicians. They should allow doctors to anonymously testify against colleagues to avoid the strong pressures to cover up each other's mistakes. We They should strengthen the actions taken against offending doctors. And they should punish the doctors and institutions that don't report malpractice.

I think that would do a lot more than punitive damages.

[Anonymous]

The IVF day care babies are not more precious and valuable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is that fair?

I know we debate all the time about tort reform here.

Wrongful death by NHS providers and services = 100K for a 1 year old that died of sepsis.

If it were my 1 year old? I spent 60K alone on IVF to get him here. We've spent 30K on daycare. Not to mention the cost to "carry" him is around 150-200K if I were a surrogate.

It's at least 100K just to get a baby earthside. As a settlement it seems like a slap in the face. Am I wrong?

I think 300-500K seems more "reasonable"

Is there a particular story?

What makes sense will vary. You're probably starting with a skewed view because of US settlements will include large amounts that go to the health insurance company, the lawyers, and expert witnesses. When we looked into bringing a malpractice case, the first $200,000 of any settlement was going to have to go to our insurance company.

Then there's past and future actual damages. If malpractice causes a need for ongoing care, then the settlement or lawsuit amount will need to cover that, too. So cases involving death, particularly in kids and the elderly, won't necessarily be that much.

Time off from work should be compensated to a reasonable degree of what was necessary. And something for pain and suffering, although I'd probably come to a lower number on that than you.

But you seem to be wanting punitive damages. I'm skeptical of those. If it was a legitimate mistake/error, then there shouldn't be punitive damages. If there was willful negligence, then you quickly get into areas where the criminal justice system should get involved. Is there room in the middle for monetary punitive damages? I suppose, but I think the threat of them generally does more harm than good.

I don't think malpractice suits are a good solution to holding bad doctors accountable. We need to revamp state medical boards and find a way to staff them without relying on practicing physicians. We need to revamp state medical boards. They should have more independent professional staff without relying on practicing physicians. They should allow doctors to anonymously testify against colleagues to avoid the strong pressures to cover up each other's mistakes. We They should strengthen the actions taken against offending doctors. And they should punish the doctors and institutions that don't report malpractice.

I think that would do a lot more than punitive damages.

Thank you. This thread (OP) was starting down a disgusting path and you got it back on the rails.

[Anonymous]

I’d love to see more doctors held accountable for ignoring or failing to treat medical conditions. I’ve been to so many doctors before getting to the right one and it was clear as anything what it was as it was on my ct results multiple times. A life is priceless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If it were my 1 year old? I spent 60K alone on IVF to get him here. We've spent 30K on daycare. Not to mention the cost to "carry" him is around 150-200K if I were a surrogate.

Dude. That's no way to talk about a child.

Why Erica Kirk and MAGA do?

Pro birth party monetizes everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I’d see it less as being compensated (my child is priceless, I can’t put a price on them!) and more that I want it to hurt those who were negligent so badly they never make that same mistake again.

I don’t know how it works in the UK, but in the US the healthcare system is completely corrupt and a $100k fine for a hospital is literally nothing. They’ll shrug it off and go right back to hurting people.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IVF day care babies are not more precious and valuable.

+1
Your baby isn't "worth more" than a baby conceived naturally and born at home. It's disgusting that you even think like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IVF day care babies are not more precious and valuable.

Those comments make no sense.

[Anonymous]

I disagree. I actually hate our litigious American culture. I think 100k is right. If the doctor/hospital did something truly criminal, there should be criminal charges. Americans see every accident and injury as a pay day.

[Anonymous]

Many reasons why our us system is expensive is stuff like lawsuits. Million dollars for some low income child got shot by police for robbing etc.