Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused, thought the pilot has been identified as a guy from Atlanta?

That is the American Airlines first officer.

People (mainly Trump and his cronies) are speculating the helo pilot was a black woman and DEI.
Though there is clearly a male voice from the radio so I am not clear why the "all knowing infallible white male" did not rescue a "fumbling black female DEI" from herself...

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way Trump hadn't been told one of the pilots was a black woman before he ranted about DEI. What a disgusting pig.

Assuming a black female pilot is automatically unqualified and a "DEI hire" goes beyond being a disgusting pig.

+1, imagine being the family if that pilot and finding out your child/sister/wife/mother died in a tragic accident and then seeing the president ranting about "DEI" being to blame

It's truly unbelievable that he can say such things that would get anyone fired in a normal organization and yet be the leader of a nation of hundreds of people.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/29/us/plane-crash-washington-dc?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare#staffing-was-not-normal-at-airport-tower-according-to-a-preliminary-faa-report

Staffing was short last night at DCA

Not sure that is relevant. ATC saw both planes and communicated with them- no whether the right words were said, I don’t know, but present staff attempted to intervene.

Horrific

I wonder if the plane could have pulled up and aborted the landing approach at any point.

Terrible.

The helicopter could have.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Man, the male helo pilot (or copilot) said at both ATC warnings that yes, they have visual separation and then went and crashed into the underside of the jet.

W T F.

They could have been watch another plane. It is in the video. Though he could have stopped. Helicopter can hover.

No. Look at the radar. If the helicopter pilot was looking at another plane, he was staring out the side window of the helicopter.

The plane he crashed into is directly in front of him. Even accounting for the fact the plane is descending in altitude and the dark, there is no plausible way the helicopter pilot though they were talking about one of the other planes. There was only one other plane in the vicinity and it's to the side and behind the helicopter.

Also the ATC identifies the aircraft by call sign, which presumably should have shown up on helicopter radar as well.

Dude, they have navigational tools and fly off those most of all! They know an approaching aircraft’s altitude, speed, angle.

If pilot was “looking out since wrong side window” at a different jet farther away, that’s malpractice, malfeasance, negligence and pure idiocy.

They look at both the navs and outside visuals.

Guess which one is most accurate? To the point that in a white out or black out situation they only use it? The Navs!

Something dumb happened here.

And if it’s a cascade of substandard DEI admittances and promotions, so be it.

We need to know.

If it turns out she was piloting, it was the man who radioed they saw the plane. So, it can't entirely be her fault. I mean if you're headed straight for a plane, aren't the other two people on board going to start shouting? If this is going to be some DEI thing, I think we have to be honest that likely all of them are at fault, and perhaps whoever ordered them to be flying then.

This is Trump world. Everything is the fault of the women and the black people.

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused, thought the pilot has been identified as a guy from Atlanta?

Regardless, Buttigieg was appointed specifically to unwind the first Trump administration standards for ATCs.

The Biden transportation secretary publicly stated he thought the federal ATC workforce "was too white."

Can you please cite this?

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Couldn't the person talking not have been the one flying the helicopter? There were three soldiers on the helicopter. This makes sense with Trump's DEI statements. Hegseth said in his statement that they know the identities of the soldiers on board. And, of course, this would play perfectly into Hegseth's claims that the military has gone to shit under Biden because it's no longer the best and brightest being promoted, etc., it's all based on DEI. He also claims that, under Biden, there's not enough time for military training in the field, etc. because they all had to constantly do DEI, sexual assault, etc. training. I REALLY hope the PP is wrong that the pilot of the helicopter was a woman, but I'm afraid that may be the case.

Do you not Nazi how you are playing directly into Nazi rhetoric?

Trump filled the government with grossly unqualified insane people, and you "REALLY hope" non-WhiteMen don't exist, because any one that does exist will be blamed for anything that goes wrong?

THIS IS HOW GENOCIDES LAUNCH

Um, no I'm not. You are not very good at reading comprehension. I hope it wasn't a woman flying the helicopter because Trump and Hegseth will point to that as "evidence" that women and other DEI candidates in the military shouldn't be there. I don't agree with that, but that's how they will twist that fact to further their agenda. Do you understand now?

So any time a woman screws up something (50% of the population) or a POC screws up (40%+ of the population) it's automatically because of "DEI"?

What a logical fallacy.

Does anyone know who was piloting the F35 that stalled out last weekend in Alaska? Was it a DEI pilot?
https://apnews.com/article/f35-air-force-jet-crashes-alaska-b85f19849361ddb3882cdc551f5d0f1d

Women do not make up 50% of military helicopter pilots or anywhere even close to that. But, in any event, as a PP explained, there's a perception that the standards for flying/ATC have been lowered for women/non-white folks and that this has made flying less safe. Again, I am not saying this is true, but it's the claim of Trump/Hegseth + supporters. I'm not sure why you keep getting so angry when I've made clear I don't agree with this claim. It's not my argument, it's Hegseth's. So get mad at him.

Simple.

Pull the qualifications, experience and training from pilots 15-20 years ago and compare them to the last 0-7 years ago.

Who are we putting in the cockpit nowadays?

Hopefully someone based on merit who went to an academy, earned Squad Com by senior year, had fantastic flight training, passed with flying colors, has good maintenance training and hours, and is smart, ethical and moral.

Release their resume.

This.

It will prove or disprove the silly DEI admitting and hiring stuff theory.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way Trump hadn't been told one of the pilots was a black woman before he ranted about DEI. What a disgusting pig.

Assuming a black female pilot is automatically unqualified and a "DEI hire" goes beyond being a disgusting pig.

+1, imagine being the family if that pilot and finding out your child/sister/wife/mother died in a tragic accident and then seeing the president ranting about "DEI" being to blame

He always does his. Trump hates people who are suffering, unless he can pick their pocket. He has no respect for anyone, except temporary respect for anyone he get a buck off of.

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Anonymous wrote:Please post links of the victims .. is there a list somewhere?

I haven't seen an list other than what the ice skating clubs have posted, plus the name of one of the pilots.

"American Eagle flight pilot was 28-year-old Sam Lilley"

Jeez, isn't that young for a pilot?

The younger pilots start out at regional airlines.

His dad was a former Army helicopter pilot.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

This info was already known to them hence the blame DEI messaging.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Couldn't the person talking not have been the one flying the helicopter? There were three soldiers on the helicopter. This makes sense with Trump's DEI statements. Hegseth said in his statement that they know the identities of the soldiers on board. And, of course, this would play perfectly into Hegseth's claims that the military has gone to shit under Biden because it's no longer the best and brightest being promoted, etc., it's all based on DEI. He also claims that, under Biden, there's not enough time for military training in the field, etc. because they all had to constantly do DEI, sexual assault, etc. training. I REALLY hope the PP is wrong that the pilot of the helicopter was a woman, but I'm afraid that may be the case.

Do you not Nazi how you are playing directly into Nazi rhetoric?

Trump filled the government with grossly unqualified insane people, and you "REALLY hope" non-WhiteMen don't exist, because any one that does exist will be blamed for anything that goes wrong?

THIS IS HOW GENOCIDES LAUNCH

Um, no I'm not. You are not very good at reading comprehension. I hope it wasn't a woman flying the helicopter because Trump and Hegseth will point to that as "evidence" that women and other DEI candidates in the military shouldn't be there. I don't agree with that, but that's how they will twist that fact to further their agenda. Do you understand now?

So any time a woman screws up something (50% of the population) or a POC screws up (40%+ of the population) it's automatically because of "DEI"?

What a logical fallacy.

Does anyone know who was piloting the F35 that stalled out last weekend in Alaska? Was it a DEI pilot?
https://apnews.com/article/f35-air-force-jet-crashes-alaska-b85f19849361ddb3882cdc551f5d0f1d

Women do not make up 50% of military helicopter pilots or anywhere even close to that. But, in any event, as a PP explained, there's a perception that the standards for flying/ATC have been lowered for women/non-white folks and that this has made flying less safe. Again, I am not saying this is true, but it's the claim of Trump/Hegseth + supporters. I'm not sure why you keep getting so angry when I've made clear I don't agree with this claim. It's not my argument, it's Hegseth's. So get mad at him.

Simple.

Pull the qualifications, experience and training from pilots 15-20 years ago and compare them to the last 0-7 years ago.

Who are we putting in the cockpit nowadays?

We have a recruiting problem. This is not about men vs women. This is about being able to recruit ANYONE without lowering standards.

We have more women than men entering now, because they are meeting the standards more often than men. Too many boys are out of shape, doing drugs, and getting arrested.

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I'm seeing that one of the helo pilots was a woman, but nothing I see says she was black.

Where is the source saying the pilot was a black woman?

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused, thought the pilot has been identified as a guy from Atlanta?

That was the plane pilot.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing that one of the helo pilots was a woman, but nothing I see says she was black.

Where is the source saying the pilot was a black woman?

Who cares this is irrelevant. You're falling into their trap. This isn't relevant at all.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way Trump hadn't been told one of the pilots was a black woman before he ranted about DEI. What a disgusting pig.

Assuming a black female pilot is automatically unqualified and a "DEI hire" goes beyond being a disgusting pig.

+1, imagine being the family if that pilot and finding out your child/sister/wife/mother died in a tragic accident and then seeing the president ranting about "DEI" being to blame

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Anonymous wrote:How will Trump’s statement about the cause/reason for the crash impact the investigation?

Will the investigation only look at DEI issues to prove Trump correct?

Of course not. The NTSB employs professionals (whom I think he has not replaced yet with on air Fox personalities).