Succession - Season 4

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait for next weeks episode. I can’t name my source, who would be fired for leaking, but I have it on good authority Kendall makes a spectacle of himself at the funeral by attempting a ridiculous stunt.

Per my contact in the Succession writers room, Kendall decides to pay tribute to his father by, get this, waterskiing in the Hudson and, I’m not making this up, literally jumping over a fenced off area of the river in which a Great White Shark has been placed. Seriously this is going to be lit.


And The Fonz is piloting the boat.
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Anonymous wrote:Shiv used her information about her pregnancy exactly the way Tom advised someone to: like a fine wine, and then she smashed his face with it. I thought the episode was incredible, not lazy at all. Of course now I'm terrified that next year someone is going to attempt (and succeed) at setting fire to ballot boxes in largely Democratic-leaning cities.


THIS! I was like: stop giving the a playbook. Democracy is holding on by a thread

+1 I am incredibly angry that this show willed that possibility into the universe.


Aren't ballot boxes metal and reinforced. Doesn't seem likely to be able to set on fire.

The fire wasn’t at a dropbox, it was at a building where people were counting votes.
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What I find so compelling about last week’s episode and the storyline of electing the fascist president is how well they demonstrate that the elites making the decisions are not actually true believers. Obviously Shiv is very opposed to him. Kendall has real concerns. The other higher ups at ATN/way star aren’t for this guy. Even Roman is in it for the access.

As someone who works in politics - this is exactly how it works. These bastards are just ginning up the masses for their own financial power. They know democracy is in peril but they don’t care.
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Anonymous wrote:Shiv used her information about her pregnancy exactly the way Tom advised someone to: like a fine wine, and then she smashed his face with it. I thought the episode was incredible, not lazy at all. Of course now I'm terrified that next year someone is going to attempt (and succeed) at setting fire to ballot boxes in largely Democratic-leaning cities.


THIS! I was like: stop giving the a playbook. Democracy is holding on by a thread

+1 I am incredibly angry that this show willed that possibility into the universe.


Aren't ballot boxes metal and reinforced. Doesn't seem likely to be able to set on fire.


Actually they are nylon with a lock, like a suitcase.
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Anonymous wrote:What I find so compelling about last week’s episode and the storyline of electing the fascist president is how well they demonstrate that the elites making the decisions are not actually true believers. Obviously Shiv is very opposed to him. Kendall has real concerns. The other higher ups at ATN/way star aren’t for this guy. Even Roman is in it for the access.

As someone who works in politics - this is exactly how it works. These bastards are just ginning up the masses for their own financial power. They know democracy is in peril but they don’t care.


+1. Trump used to be pro-choice.
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Anonymous wrote:What I find so compelling about last week’s episode and the storyline of electing the fascist president is how well they demonstrate that the elites making the decisions are not actually true believers. Obviously Shiv is very opposed to him. Kendall has real concerns. The other higher ups at ATN/way star aren’t for this guy. Even Roman is in it for the access.

As someone who works in politics - this is exactly how it works. These bastards are just ginning up the masses for their own financial power. They know democracy is in peril but they don’t care.


+1. Trump used to be pro-choice.


And Rupert Murdoch thinks Trump is an idiot, albeit a useful one.
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Anonymous wrote:What I find so compelling about last week’s episode and the storyline of electing the fascist president is how well they demonstrate that the elites making the decisions are not actually true believers. Obviously Shiv is very opposed to him. Kendall has real concerns. The other higher ups at ATN/way star aren’t for this guy. Even Roman is in it for the access.

As someone who works in politics - this is exactly how it works. These bastards are just ginning up the masses for their own financial power. They know democracy is in peril but they don’t care.


+1. Trump used to be pro-choice.


He probably still is but says what he needs to say just to get votes.
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The WSJ had an amusing look at what vacation destinations the Succession siblings would wind up after the show ends:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/succession-worthy-vacations-where-should-shiv-kendall-greg-and-more-go-after-the-finale-cbc3baeb?reflink=integratedwebview_share

To summarize:

Shiv and Tom

If there’s one city in the world to facilitate a rapprochement between Tom (Matthew Macfadyen) and Shiv (Sarah Snook), it’s Rome, ventures FitzRoy, whose London-based company plans exclusive experiences in Italy. A stay at the Bulgari Hotel (above) and a truffle-laden dinner at Pierluigi, the legendary seafood spot, might inspire romance (or at least a lusty spat) for the combative duo. But, as FitzRoy points out, nothing impresses Shiv, who the travel planner imagines would “wander in a daze” past the amazing experiences set up for them like a private viewing of the Sistine Chapel, when it’s closed to the public. “She’ll be looking at her phone instead of looking up.” From $38,000 per person, BelliniTravel.com

Roman

Roman (Kieran Culkin), the family hedonist, has been acquiring a taste for the traditional. Sebastian Lee of Latitude London, which specializes in U.K. trips for “the megawealthy, mostly New Yorkers who don’t want any publicity,” would indulge both of Roman’s sides with a weekend at Glamis Castle (above), just north of Dundee, his father Logan’s hometown. One day might involve golfing at the St. Andrews Old Course. A tailor from Savile Row’s Anderson & Sheppard would tweak the fit on tweed attire for a day of deer stalking or grouse hunting. At night: a black-tie dinner and a debauched billiard game like Strip Freda, or the Waystar Royco favorite, Boar on the Floor. From $100,000, info@latitude.london

Kendall

Ricardo Araujo, the founder and CEO of London based Ariodante Travel, whose target clients have a net worth of at least $400 million, sees an opportunity to help Kendall (Jeremy Strong) build the cultural cachet he craves. “At that level,” said Araujo, “to be respected by your peers you need way more than just money.” To that end, Araujo would plan a deep dive into the world of contemporary art with stops in London, Basel and Vienna for private tours of galleries and museums with their directors and curators, as well as studio visits with both emerging and iconic artists. In Vienna, Kendall would settle into a palace “belonging to an ancient family owning a wonderful private art collection,” after stays in the 5000-square-foot Royal Penthouse at the Corinthia London and the Art Deco Rooftop Suite at Les Trois Rois in Basel. A trip like this, notes Araujo, would take a team of ten, plus four dedicated art experts at least six months to plan and would cost “way above the $1M mark”– excluding air travel and the artwork Kendall would commission and donate to MoMA. AriodanteTravel.com

Connor and Willa

After his quixotic run for the presidency and flirtation with an ambassadorship, Connor (Alan Ruck) and wife Willa (Justine Lupe-Schomp) need a break. Stephanie McClendon, at San Diego-based luxury tour operator Scott Dunn, would send them to the Woodward in Geneva (above). It’s “conservative, though grand, much like Connor regards himself.” With views of Lake Geneva, the Presidential Suite should be “a more than adequate consolation prize.” While Connor goes for a sail or skulks by the U.N., Willa would enjoy an imperial massage and Abeille Royale Honey Repair facial at the hotel’s Guerlain Spa. From $10,274 per night, ScottDunn.com

Cousin Greg

“Cousin Greg [Nicholas Braun] has newly minted money, let’s be real. So he is going to want to do something ‘bucket list’ and take along a honey to impress her,” said Caroline Quinn, travel expert at Black Tomato, a company specializing in experiential luxury travel. Quinn would plan a “Bush & Beach classic combo,” starting with a five-night safari trip to Angama Amboseli’s private tented camp on Kenya’s Maasai Mara. An ideal place to spot large elephant herds, cheetahs, leopards, and prides of lions, it would let him show off as well. “Can’t you see him wearing loser safari clothes?” asked Quinn. He would then head off by private jet for four nights in a Serenity Villa at the Four Seasons Seychelles. From $57,500 per person, BlackTomato.com

Gerri

While General Counsel Gerri Kelleman (J. Smith-Cameron) was often present at Roy family retreats, she was rarely, if ever, off the clock. Ashley Isaacs Ganz, founder of Artisans of Leisure, based in New York City, would send the executive to Marrakesh to “relax and pamper herself in total luxury while also keeping busy with activities she doesn’t normally do.” At La Mamounia Palace, a suite overlooking the gardens awaits as does a martini, her drink of choice, at the Churchill bar. One day she could indulge in a fragrance lesson with perfumer Abderrazzak Benchaâbane; on the next, make a visit to Yves Saint Laurent’s private residence, Villa Oasis. Then she could wrap up her trip with two days of pampering at Richard Branson’s Kasbah Tamadot in the Atlas mountains in a luxury Berber tent outfitted with a hot tub. From $25,700, ArtisansOfLeisure.com
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Just watched the episode- I was so disgusted with Roman and his stupid hair wing that looks like it will take flight off his head. I’m sure this is all by design - the viewers were supposed to loathe all things Roman. Interesting how each sibling fell in a different place on the election spectrum. Ken was vacillating between Rome and Shiv until he realized she lied about the call to Nate. That pushed him to Team Roman, reluctantly.
Can’t wait to see the next episode!
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Yes, Roman's hair is *awful*.
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Well, that funeral scene was intense. I teared up when Roman asked: “Can we get him out of there?” I thought both Ken and Shiv gave the best eulogies they could given the “material” they had. If Shiv had invoked “Daddy” I would have been disappointed, but saying he did “okay” hit the right note.
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I could not stop laughing about the widows and the mistresses all hanging out. Amazing, 10/10, no notes.

Also I called Roman's breakdown at the beginning of the episode. When he was rehearsing this eulogy in his apartment I told my DH that no way we'd see it at the real deal (you don't see speeches twice on TV) and also he was wound up so tight that his head was going to have to pop off at some point anyway. So that felt predictable to me.

But Marcia comforting Kerry? Nope, not predictable, and I loved it. At least we don't have to listen to him grind his teeth tonight, eh ladies?! I died.
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Kendall's afraid colin's gonna blab about murder.

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Anonymous wrote:I could not stop laughing about the widows and the mistresses all hanging out. Amazing, 10/10, no notes.

Also I called Roman's breakdown at the beginning of the episode. When he was rehearsing this eulogy in his apartment I told my DH that no way we'd see it at the real deal (you don't see speeches twice on TV) and also he was wound up so tight that his head was going to have to pop off at some point anyway. So that felt predictable to me.

But Marcia comforting Kerry? Nope, not predictable, and I loved it. At least we don't have to listen to him grind his teeth tonight, eh ladies?! I died.


I thought that scene was unexpectedly sweet. Definitely didn't see it coming. When Marcia made the joke about the teeth and it caused Kerry to tear up, and Marcia took her hand- it was just really kind. I think everyone was being exceptionally kind to one another at the funeral (besides the Roy kids mom), and putting their feuds aside for the moment. I guarantee it's going to be sharply contrasted in next week's episode, and nobody is going to be being kind to anybody anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:Are we supposed to assume that ATNs call on the election is the only one that matters? There are presumably other networks. This was a stumbling block for me last night.


Same here. ATN wanted to put some wind under Mencken's wings for the upcoming reckoning about Milwaukee. But presumably we'll hear more about both Milwaukee and the other networks' calls next week.

I don't think Tom will get fired over the call. Look at what happened over at Fox last presidential election, and I wouldn't say ATN's management and owners are better than at Fox. Tom's reputation will take a hit though. They'll probably fire the numbers guy who didn't want to call it.


Did you see the previews for next week? Everyone is blaming Tom.

ATN called it for Mencken in exchange for him to act like he wants it to be fair and go through the courts. So they will throw ATN under the bus.


What preview are you talking about? The one after the episode was all about the funeral. I don’t think Tom was even in the preview.


Sorry, it was the last scene in the episode. Greg says "your phone is red hot" and Tom is watching other networks say Tom was in the wrong.


I think Tom will be squarely thrown under the bus here. I don't think the show ends with us knowing Tom's fate at ATN, but likely knowing that Tom has been ousted from the Roy inner circle. The other possibility is that Tom more or less blackmails the Roys/Shiv to keep his spot. I think it's 50/50. I don't think we see much more in detail about the election because the outcome doesn't matter to any of them other than they have Mencken who will torpedo their deal.

I don't have a read on what happens at the end. This episode had several interesting turns as far as who might seize power at Waystar - Roman being ruthless and focused in a way we haven't really seen before. Greg betraying Shiv. Shiv floundering, totally out of her depth. Tom also floundering. Kendall mumbling like a big pile of mush while he tries to claw back a semblance of family life.

The preview for next week has Roman practicing a speech where he clearly intends to claim his father's legacy as his own.


I think Roman is being set up for a major fail at the funeral.


Called it!
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