Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

Explain why a country so obsessed with marketing genocide fought tooth and nail against recognizing the Armenian genocide.

Can’t have competition in the victimhood biz, I guess, can you.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you're really all about ancestral lands, then guess what, Armenians lived in Artsakh for centuries, but that didn't keep Israel from supplying Azeris with top notch weapons to help them expel the natives.

DP.

I agree that claims to ancestral lands are unworkable.

Which is why Palestinians have no claim to Israel, since they last inhabited it > 80 years ago.

Which is why Israel has no claim to reparations since the Holocaust happened 80 years ago.

I don’t think Israel is seeking reparations for the Holocaust. Some Holocaust survivors received meager reparations over 50 years ago. There have been some lawsuits over personal property disposition where Holocaust survivors and their detained seek compensation for art, for example, stolen by Nazis. But Israel as a nation isn’t seeking reparations for the Holocaust, nor are any Jewish people that I know of claiming some sort of entitlement to the homes and/or land they inhabited before the Holocaust.

Just last week Germany announced they were giving Holocaust survivors in Israel $27 million to help them manage disruptions after 10/7.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/04/12/europe/israeli-holocaust-germany-payout-october-7-intl

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

Honey….you don’t own genocide. Actually, Armenians do. And I don’t see them objecting to that term being applied to the Palestinian suffering. Who died and made you in charge of what genocide is and isn’t?

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

Honey….you don’t own genocide. Actually, Armenians do. And I don’t see them objecting to that term being applied to the Palestinian suffering. Who died and made you in charge of what genocide is and isn’t?

6 million people died, that’s who.

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

Honey….you don’t own genocide. Actually, Armenians do. And I don’t see them objecting to that term being applied to the Palestinian suffering. Who died and made you in charge of what genocide is and isn’t?

6 million people died, that’s who.

That’s all very sad but it’s not the first genocide and sadly, not the last. It is one among many.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

Most of the people that complain about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians complain about all those other places as well. That's why they complain about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.

[Anonymous]

Can we talk about how Trump-led normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel has been, and is, what will prevent WWIII?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

lol Bill Ackman says DEI is antisemitic. The Palestinians holocaust is real and is policy of the government of Israel. You are crazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

lol Bill Ackman says DEI is antisemitic. The Palestinians holocaust is real and is policy of the government of Israel. You are crazy.

There were under a million Palestinians in Palestine in 1948 and over 5 million in the West Bank and Gaza today. Some Holocaust 🙄

On the other hand the Jewish population which lost 6 million Jews during the Holocaust is still not at its pre-WW2 levels, 80 years later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Move on and get over it! ” - when it’s about Palestinian expulsion and death

“Never forget !!” -about Jewish expulsion and death.

I don’t think any Jews or the Israeli state have said “move on and get over it.”

I think weaponizing the Holocaust as you do is a form of antisemitism. It’s offensive. You might think it’s a witty statement, but it’s not true and it shows that you’re holding a chip on your shoulder about Jews and the Holocaust.

DP. I didn't see it as an attack on Jews or the Holocaust at all. It's an attitude that describes militant Zionists rather accurately and, unfortunately, reflects the attitudes of many leading officials in Israel. This is why there is currently a genocide underway. There's nothing antisemitic about pointing out this out.

Actually, it is antisemitic. The most basic DEI training will teach you that discrimination and harassment and hostile work environment caused by racist conduct is not based on what the allegedly racist person intended; whether it is racist from a legal perspective is whether a reasonable person on the receiving end of the comment would be offended. Comparing the Holocaust to Palestinian suffering is a party trick that weaponizes a 6 million person genocide, steals and misuses the term “genocide” and then applies it to an unfortunate and tragic situation in which innocents are killed because they are used as human shields by the terrorist organization that rules their government. Throwing the phrase “never again” in the face of Jewish people is offensive and antisemitic in this context. And no, just because YOU don’t agree that you’re antisemitic doesn’t mean that you aren’t. The legal standard is whether an average person, and particularly an average Jewish person, would find what you say to be offensive and antisemitic. And what you are saying is antisemitic, and we all see through you when you fixate and foam at the mouth over Jews killing Palestinians when you ignore all the other Palestinian deaths in other countries such as Syria or all the other mass killings that have taken place in the world over the past couple of decades. We see you, we know exactly what you are, and we’re too classy to scream in your face about it.

Most of the people that complain about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians complain about all those other places as well. That's why they complain about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.

Blatantly absurd and false. They certainly do not. I don’t see threads like this on any other conflict.

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Anonymous wrote:did anyone see the new survey that shows 72% of palestinians support Hamas's actions on Oct 7? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/middleeast/palestinians-back-hamas-survey-intl-cmd/index.html

If the IDF hurt one of my children, I regret to say that I'd probably do more than support Hamas. After the IDF has killed and mutilated, displaced, and starved so many Palestinians, I'm surprised that number is as low as 72%.

Yes. This. Israel’s outsized response is only servicing to make Jews less safe worldwide. If you think IDF’s response has been justified based on 1200 deaths and 250 kidnapped victims, just imagine what the Palestinians want to do to Israelis for 20x that amount of suffering.

Wow. What both of you numbskulls conveniently ignore is the FACT that Hamas brutally mutilated, tortured, raped, and murdered, children and other innocent civilians FIRST. Why is it so easy for you to totally twist this narrative? Do you know how insane you sound?
DP

It is a mistake to try to assign a “first” in this conflict. You are correct that Hamas carried out a brutal attack on October 7th, but they didn’t spring into existence on October 6th.

https://prospect.org/world/2023-10-20-west-bank-settlements-conflict-gaza/

A very interesting article written by an Israeli author.

That's behind a firewall. At any rate, regardless of Jewish settlements, etc. - Israelis have NOT tortured and raped Palestinian women and children. Hamas are monsters. I hope they're eradicated from the face of the earth.

Just a reminder this is the statement categorically denying Israelis have tortured and raped Palestinian women which is precisely what the Israeli justice system says has taken place.

They’ve raped more Palestinian men than the women because they know men don’t ever speak out about such things

Cool story bro. Make wild accusations with no proof, and then give yourself fake cover by saying "you won't hear about it because it's suppressed / people are being bought off / they won't talk to it because of cultural issues" etc.

Here is a report about a 15 year old boy who was raped and was subjected to torture in the genitalia in 2021 by Israeli forces.

This incident has been mentioned in interviews by Josh Paul, who resigned from the US state department earlier this year.

https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_interrogator_sexually_assaults_palestinian_child_detainee

Again for individual reports vs. mass rape event. This is equivalent to when Jeff said about Shani Louk “she had her underwear on”

Ok then say “Israel doesn’t carry out mass rape” and not “Israelis do NOT rape Palestinians”.

Don’t make verifiably false statements and then get defensive when someone tells you they’re false. And really if I were in your shoes I’d take a beat on making either of those claims because we don’t know the full scale of what’s happening right now, and you may find yourself re-defining your parameters for behavior yet again.

You are saying that possibly, Israeli soldiers are mass raping Palestinian women, cutting off breasts, and desecrating the bodies, ie parading their corpses through the streets of Tel Aviv while civilian Israelis are spitting on their dead flesh?

No? I am saying it’s possible there is a larger sexual violence issue with the IDF that we don’t yet know about (due to gag orders and also the lack of reporting from Gaza right now) and so I would continue to advise everyone not to make blanket statements about their behavior which are either verifiably false or have the potential to be proven false later. Stick with what is verifiably true.

The IDF are heroes, and if we had a reasonable leadership in this country people like you blatantly slandering such heroes would be arrested and tried for your crimes.

You believe that it should be a crime in the United States to post verified facts— published by the governments in question— about the conduct of foreign militaries?

They are NOT verified. They were part of a biased opinion piece as shown by the fact that the website has the word ‘Palestine’ in its url.

Posting verifiable facts is not a crime, but terrorizing Jewish people by slandering the IDF is and should be a crime.

It was not an opinion piece but actually a report put out by Defense for Children international- Palestine which is an NGO that works for the rights of children in the West Bank and Gaza.

Shortly after they came out with this report they were designated a terrorist organization by Israel and had their offices raided. Several countries (France, Germany, Sweden among others) said there was no proof of terrorism and would continue to work with them.

This is mentioned in an interview former state department official Josh Paul gave on PBS:

I was part of the human rights vetting process for arms going to Israel. And a charity called Defensive Children

International Palestine drew our attention at the State Department to the sexual assault, actually the rape of a 13-year-old boy that occurred in an

Israeli prison in Moskobiya (ph) in Jerusalem.

We examined these allegations. We believe they were credible. We put them through Israel to the government of Israel. And you know what happened the

next day? The IDF went into the DCIP offices and removed all their computers and declared them a terrorist entity.

Here is the report again:
https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_interrogator_sexually_assaults_palestinian_child_detainee

Here is the Josh Paul interview:

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/amanpour-and-company/video/fmr-state-dept-official-on-his-decision-to-leave-after-oct-7-2/

So you admit that Israel determined that the group making this allegation was found to be a terrorist organization by Israel, right?

So why should I read their report if they are a terrorist organization? As I said in my first post, it is clearly biased.

Do whatever you want, but Israel has proven time and time again to be the party in this conflict that cannot be trusted, and that cannot sustain integrity in their reporting of what’s occurring in the region.

People without an agenda instinctively laugh aloud when “Israel” and “facts” are mentioned in the same breath. Zero integrity. Zero credibility.

Israel is basically an isolated state on the world stage because countries don’t trust anyone affiliated with the Israeli government. Maybe that will change with a new wave of political leaders in Israel, but right now, Israel is not taken seriously by the rest of the world. Its just not.

DP. Well, we’ve definitely found the nutter. If you replace Hamas for Israel in your post, you’d be 100% correct. Unfortunately, you’re just trolling at this point. Israel has allies all over the world - including the U.S. and other western countries. What’s truly laughable is your inability to admit that Hamas is everything you listed, and worse. I honestly don’t know why I’m expending energy on you. You’re clearly pro-Hamas.

Hamas is awful, as well. Nobody is defending Hamas. Israel’s government and Hamas are two peas in a pod. Both brimming over with terrorists.

DP. I must agree that both sides are killing machines. I support neither side. We should all, however, support a 90 day pause of fueling the flames of both sides with our hard-earned tax dollars. American war mongers need to take a break. They’ve been ferociously lobbying for the escalation of all wars since Democrats got back into the White House. I still can’t believe them saying that Trump was the only President in recent history not to start any new wars. And here we are, on the verge of WW3.

Israel is now a wealthy nation, while we’re drowning in skyrocketing debt, not to mention our own ignored border crisis. Netanyahu can’t stop bragging about Israel’s economic dominance. He can fund his own killing machine. So can Hamas. They don’t need continued US interference/dollars.

Oh, and btw, I don’t know if Hamas has an established relationship with Davos Klaus, but Netanyahu certainly does. Depopulation is their priority. Let that sink in.

So, how many excruciating hours passed before the local Israeli government was allowed to respond to the 10/07 music festival massacre?

Anyone? WHY THE DELAY?
Depopulation.

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Looks like the US took out over 1/2 the missiles that were a threat to Israel. The total was 160 or so.
https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/iran-attack-israel-drones-missiles/

Interesting

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Anonymous wrote:And if you're really all about ancestral lands, then guess what, Armenians lived in Artsakh for centuries, but that didn't keep Israel from supplying Azeris with top notch weapons to help them expel the natives.

DP.

I agree that claims to ancestral lands are unworkable.

Which is why Palestinians have no claim to Israel, since they last inhabited it > 80 years ago.

Actually, under UN Resolution 194, they do. They can either return to their homes or receive compensation. And in the case of Palestinians, we're not talking only about "ancestral lands," as in the lands of their ancestors. We're talking about their OWN lands, where they lived as young children and from which their parents and grandparents were evicted (or murdered) by Zionist terrorists (like the Irgun and Alexandroni Brigade) and the IDF. Also, it's under 80 years for many of those evicted during the Nakba. 80 years is very different from 2,000 years.

Excellent.

So Pakistanis also have the right to reclaim their family lands in India.

And we'll unwind the map of Africa to reapportion land ownership to reflect the end of the colonial period?

Splendid idea.

Anybody violently evicted from their homes and forced out of their homelands in the recent past should absolutely have the same options offered by UN Resolution 194. That is, they should either have the right of return or receive compensation. In my opinion, Native Americans should receive far more reparations than the occasional scant handouts they've been granted so far. If you want to talk about justice since the end of the colonial period, we agree.

Things get absurd when you try to go back 2,000 years to reclaim the land where a percentage of your ancestors may have once lived, and they really get ugly when you feel entitled to evict or butcher the people you used to share the land with, but who remained there from that time onward. It's worth considering where all of our ancestors lived 2,000 years ago. If you assume 25 years per generation, that's 80 generations and means we all have a LOT of ancestors who lived back then. The world population was much smaller at that time (perhaps 150 to 300 million). It's easy to see how closely related people living in what is now Israel must have been. My own ancestors probably lived in the Middle East and Europe, and I have distant cousins today who are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, a few other religions, and (mostly) secular. Trying to establish land ownership after 80 generations is virtually impossible. However, there are people alive today who were violently forced out of Palestine by the IDF and had all but the clothes on their backs stolen from them, and they cannot even visit the homes where they used to live. That is clearly an injustice that needs to be addressed.

So you favor a policy that would lead to civil wars across Africa, the ME, parts of Europe, and much of Asia?

Doesn't seem like the most humane approach to me.

Your idealism is...painful.

Land-grabbing by ethnosupremacist colonialists, often accompanied by the exploitation, eviction, and/or extermination of the indigenous population, hasn't exactly been a path to peace over human history. In fact, this process has led to horrific violence, as we see in Palestine/Israel.

Totally inapposite.