struggling with 50% athletic scholarship vs full pay better school..

[Anonymous]

how do most people evaluate the “value” comparison in situations like this? We can afford the full pay, but we aren’t rich. full pay is an ivy, 50% scholarship at a school in T25-50 range

[Anonymous]

Does the student want to play the sport? Will they want to stick with it for 4 years of college? Would they have an opportunity to play it at the Ivy, just without the scholarship?

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If they got hurt at the athletic sport school, would they still be happy there?

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Have you run the NPC or asked for a financial preread at the Ivy? Because Ivys are much more generous with financial aid than other institutions. If you have not, certainly do so. I have a child at an Ivy and one at an OOS public. The Ivy only costs us a few thousand more a year, because we have another child in school. So just be sure you aren't assuming you're full pay because child won't be getting an athletic scholarship at the Ivy. (I say this because you say you're not rich - you can be fairly well off and still get financial aid at an Ivy.)

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Anonymous wrote:If they got hurt at the athletic sport school, would they still be happy there?

Worse...if they are cut from the team (usually because of a transfer portal recruit) will they still be happy there.

The entire D1 sports equation has been turned on its head with the transfer portal and roster changes. Know far too many recruited kids getting cut.

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What does your kid want to do for a career? Would both of them lead to similar career outcomes?

Will your kid need grad school so you might need to pay for that too?

Can you afford this for all your kids? If you do it for one, then you do it for all.

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Anonymous wrote:how do most people evaluate the “value” comparison in situations like this? We can afford the full pay, but we aren’t rich. full pay is an ivy, 50% scholarship at a school in T25-50 range

Intended major ?

Intended career ?

Which specific schools are involved ? Important information which should not be withheld if you really want serious & meaningful responses. Otherwise, garbage in, garbage out.

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Anonymous wrote:how do most people evaluate the “value” comparison in situations like this? We can afford the full pay, but we aren’t rich. full pay is an ivy, 50% scholarship at a school in T25-50 range

I was in the same position in the late 90s. I took the academic full ride instead of the athletic partial at a better school. I’m female so there’s almost no point in pursuing athletics since we can’t make a living with it in most sports, including mine (soccer). I went full ride undergrad, masters and phd. I landed at one of the largest companies in the world and rose the ranks. I look at soccer in my past and am more a runner/skiier/yoga now. My kids do competitive swimming but I don’t expect them to get scholarships - my income is top 2% and DH’s is high too. I never ever think I would have done better on a different track or at the better school. I do still have to compete with people from ivys but at this stage it doesn’t matter. I also don’t care where my staff graduated. I care that they are motivated to do the job well.

If were male with NFL, NBA, or major league potential- yeah I totally would have made a different choice. Still no money for men in the MLS, so even if I were male - no real money in soccer.

[Anonymous]

I have two full pay at an Ivy. It’s no joke to the pocket book!! $180k/year.

You are looking at 90-100k year for 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how do most people evaluate the “value” comparison in situations like this? We can afford the full pay, but we aren’t rich. full pay is an ivy, 50% scholarship at a school in T25-50 range

I was in the same position in the late 90s. I took the academic full ride instead of the athletic partial at a better school. I’m female so there’s almost no point in pursuing athletics since we can’t make a living with it in most sports, including mine (soccer). I went full ride undergrad, masters and phd. I landed at one of the largest companies in the world and rose the ranks. I look at soccer in my past and am more a runner/skiier/yoga now. My kids do competitive swimming but I don’t expect them to get scholarships - my income is top 2% and DH’s is high too. I never ever think I would have done better on a different track or at the better school. I do still have to compete with people from ivys but at this stage it doesn’t matter. I also don’t care where my staff graduated. I care that they are motivated to do the job well.

If were male with NFL, NBA, or major league potential- yeah I totally would have made a different choice. Still no money for men in the MLS, so even if I were male - no real money in soccer.

No you aren’t. OP is full PAY (not full ride) or 50%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how do most people evaluate the “value” comparison in situations like this? We can afford the full pay, but we aren’t rich. full pay is an ivy, 50% scholarship at a school in T25-50 range

I was in the same position in the late 90s. I took the academic full ride instead of the athletic partial at a better school. I’m female so there’s almost no point in pursuing athletics since we can’t make a living with it in most sports, including mine (soccer). I went full ride undergrad, masters and phd. I landed at one of the largest companies in the world and rose the ranks. I look at soccer in my past and am more a runner/skiier/yoga now. My kids do competitive swimming but I don’t expect them to get scholarships - my income is top 2% and DH’s is high too. I never ever think I would have done better on a different track or at the better school. I do still have to compete with people from ivys but at this stage it doesn’t matter. I also don’t care where my staff graduated. I care that they are motivated to do the job well.

If were male with NFL, NBA, or major league potential- yeah I totally would have made a different choice. Still no money for men in the MLS, so even if I were male - no real money in soccer.

Forgot to add - my school with the full ride academic scholarship was probably T100-150 or so.

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Anonymous wrote:how do most people evaluate the “value” comparison in situations like this? We can afford the full pay, but we aren’t rich. full pay is an ivy, 50% scholarship at a school in T25-50 range

Back in the day, I had a choice between full pay at a T5 law school and a full ride at my state flagship law school. I chose the T5 school, even though the cost wasn't going to be easy. While one never knows for sure how life will turn out, I am quite certain I would never have had the same career opportunities or career earnings that I've enjoyed if I had chosen the state school. So if this were my kid, I'd say go with the Ivy.

[Anonymous]

OP here - we will be full pay at ivy. We are looking at the question will ivy brand and connections be worth more over a lifetime than the nearly $200k that will be saved over 4 years at lesser school. DC is pretty laid back, so probably equally happy at either. Econ major at ivy vs business major at other school, which really does place well with their grads. So trying to boil it down to is the ivy name and experience worth the full price tag

[Anonymous]

Ivy. No doubt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how do most people evaluate the “value” comparison in situations like this? We can afford the full pay, but we aren’t rich. full pay is an ivy, 50% scholarship at a school in T25-50 range

Back in the day, I had a choice between full pay at a T5 law school and a full ride at my state flagship law school. I chose the T5 school, even though the cost wasn't going to be easy. While one never knows for sure how life will turn out, I am quite certain I would never have had the same career opportunities or career earnings that I've enjoyed if I had chosen the state school. So if this were my kid, I'd say go with the Ivy.

OP again, this is how we are thinking about it