https://www.eenews.net/articles/doe-cancels-more-than-700m-in-battery-manufacturing-projects/ These projects were funded to allow the US to have a chance at catching up to the Chinese and develop a US supplier and demand for rare earth minerals. That is done now along with a boatload of manufacturing jobs. There is no investment coming in to the US. Trump has shut it down. |
| China loves this. We have lost green energy forever. |
| Batteries are the farthest thing from green energy. Not "clean" or renewable. Massive amounts of CO2 created in mining and manufacturing. The waste is toxic when the batteries are disposed of. |
Don't worry, the oil companies paid for this They don't plan to be green |
So what? We still need a manufacturing base. Guess we'll just import from China. |
| No need for grants. Just put a high tariff on Chinese imports, forcing them to manufacture in America. Have a rule that these Chinese companies must be in a partnership with an American company, that is at least 50% American. Then you steal the technology from the factory in America. |
| Assume he's going to be getting a kickback from China. |
| Good, the future is nuclear |
Yawn. Your ignorance is showing again.. |
So act like an authoritarian country. Lovely. |
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Interestingly investment in future energy production is now 1/3 fossil fuels and 2/3 solar, wind, battery, etc.
The cheapest most economical way to meet electricity grid demand is through wind, solar and batteries. This has been shut down by Trump. So the cost of electricity will continue to get a lot more expensive in the US. This increased cost of not using the most economical option will be passed on the consumers and companies. The rest of the world will not have these economical disadvantages. All of the expected 3-5% yearly increase in electric demand in the US for the next 15-20 years can be easily be met by wind, solar and battery technology. It is actually the most economical way to go- ie huge saving over fossil fuels. It is too bad the US will not be in position to capitalize on these opportunities. |
At last Democrats and oil companies have something in common. |
| Let the Chinese bribes begin! |
The Chinese had agreed to that. They were willing to share technology and build plants in the US. This is the new model China is using through out the world. They are partnering with countries, building plants in those countries and sharing manufacturing processes and technology. Trump has canceled all those in the US.
https://insideevs.com/news/776936/gotion-battery-factory-michigan-dead/ The US will not be competitive in the new electrified economies. Look at one market segment. EV mid and heavy truck segments went from 0% of the market in 2022 to 4% in 2024. Battery prices keep falling, energy density keeps increasing. This is a technological revolution in transportation and electrical generation that is being driven by cost savings. The US is not a player. China sell 35 million new cars a year(US market is 16 million) and all the big car manufacturers including US make about 50% of their profits in China. That has stopped because they can not compete with Chinese EVs. China has reached peak oil demand. Remember for every barrel of oil, ton of coal used you lose 65-80% of its energy. This has a hidden cost of 5-8% of GDP. With electricity you use 90-95% of the energy. It’s about efficiency. |
Your complaints are a distortion. Extraction of oil, gas and coal, and refining of oil are far more environmentally damaging, use more power, and produce far more pollution than batteries. Plus, battery manufacturing impacts are largely once, up front during manufacture, whereas fossil fuels continue to pollute for the entire time they are used. Either go find some different rubes to peddle your dumb lobbyist talking points to, or tell their think tank to get some better ones. |