No Film Review

[Anonymous]

It's shocking to me how few clubs out there use film review, particularly at the Academy level. The VEO/Trace are part of the payment package, but they seem to only be used for glory IG posts and not actual learning. It's symbolic of everything that's wrong with club / youth soccer in America. Are there any clubs out there that actually have their coach do film sessions? We've been at three high level clubs and only one coach did a couple of sessions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's shocking to me how few clubs out there use film review, particularly at the Academy level. The VEO/Trace are part of the payment package, but they seem to only be used for glory IG posts and not actual learning. It's symbolic of everything that's wrong with club / youth soccer in America. Are there any clubs out there that actually have their coach do film sessions? We've been at three high level clubs and only one coach did a couple of sessions.

I think you nailed it.

My kid and I review the tape. I honestly think it is one of the secrets of how he has improved so fast relative to his peers.

The harsh reality is that I only know 2-3 quality coaches in my kids age group and they are all at different clubs. That means that you have the vast majority of clubs with poor coaches who don’t know what they are really doing although they control a team with a badge and kids with talent.

Most people don’t care about quality coaching. They care about the Rankings app or the MLS Next/ECNL/GA table. It is exhausting trying to educate them on anything different.

[Anonymous]

My kids coach likes to pick favorites

The players NEVER watch film.

If they did im convinced they would need to call the favorites out (negatively)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids coach likes to pick favorites

The players NEVER watch film.

If they did im convinced they would need to call the favorites out (negatively)

This is because VEO is a major threat to the bribe system in youth American soccer. VEO should be driving the merit system - instead it’s doing the OPPOSITE.

[Anonymous]

Which MLSN, GA , ECNL teams don’t do film review?

[Anonymous]

Film review would be what- another hour or two per week?

It would be another 1-2 hours added to a weekly schedule OR 1-2 hours taken away from training time. It would be just another thing for parents to complain about. These coaches have limited time to work with their players. Adding more hours or replacing already existing sessions would result in complaints.

Half (or more) the parents won’t even take their kids to extra training that would benefit their kids’ development.

[Anonymous]

Girls side. Quality film coaches have done film review of opposing team matches before game and review of past games after matches. Mid tier coaches ask their players to review last game film and report comments. Worst coaches record film and never speak of it again. All exist, and some that do the best with film are not best on filed coaches. A delicate balancing act, with no superior choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Girls side. Quality film coaches have done film review of opposing team matches before game and review of past games after matches. Mid tier coaches ask their players to review last game film and report comments. Worst coaches record film and never speak of it again. All exist, and some that do the best with film are not best on filed coaches. A delicate balancing act, with no superior choices.

Haha, we are somewhere between mid-tier and worst-tier. 2nd year with VEO and we have reviewed film 1x time. It’s hard to fit it in, but it’s not fun to pay for a service we barely use.

[Anonymous]

My kid’s coach this season films all training sessions and matches. He asks the boys to do a mini analysis of their own play.

I fully support what he’s doing, and I appreciate the kids now have to self evaluate. Anything that involves critical analysis of their own play is a big benefit. Both positives and negatives, because the trend otherwise quickly becomes high praise for skilled players with lesser players being ignored. The Veo levels that out quickly when you see who is really playing the game compared to who just shows up to matches and does their own thing.

It’s also interesting to see the parents of players that were once thought to be the backbone of teams suddenly becoming quieter on the sidelines when the finally see the game catching up to their kids.

The eye in the sky sees everything

[Anonymous]

DD is U17 and regularly watches the game film and her own and also will have group reviews with her coach as well to go over last game, upcoming opponent, etc.

Some coaches use it more than others - I can tell you that at younger ages, it wasn't a huge part of the deal, but as they got to HS age, it became much more important. The last two years, very much so, especially during recruiting. Being able to review and break down film was a big part of the process.

It wasn't all for instagram/twitter glory.

[Anonymous]

Our ECNL team uses zero film review
Barely get the games out to us in the same week
Always some downloading or work load excuse
It’s comical

[Anonymous]

VDA does game film study all the time.

[Anonymous]

My DS Alexandria mls next team does weekly zoom video review

[Anonymous]

What age group?

Anonymous wrote:My DS Alexandria mls next team does weekly zoom video review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid’s coach this season films all training sessions and matches. He asks the boys to do a mini analysis of their own play.

I fully support what he’s doing, and I appreciate the kids now have to self evaluate. Anything that involves critical analysis of their own play is a big benefit. Both positives and negatives, because the trend otherwise quickly becomes high praise for skilled players with lesser players being ignored. The Veo levels that out quickly when you see who is really playing the game compared to who just shows up to matches and does their own thing.

It’s also interesting to see the parents of players that were once thought to be the backbone of teams suddenly becoming quieter on the sidelines when the finally see the game catching up to their kids.

The eye in the sky sees everything

This is true. We have a few players whom the coach loves and the parents puff their chest out and are usually quite outspoken. But when you watch the film review, their actual production value is quite low. -At a glance, they are flashy and win the ball, but the end result is over-dribbling and failed passes that get turned over. I have a quiet kid, gets subbed in, makes 80-90% pass completion, always finds feet, but then gets subbed out. And surprise, the coach does very little film review, so in the end we are paying for a service that is under-utilized.

I know the coach is human. There isn't always enough time and it takes a few hours of effort to rally analyze a game and track player metrics. I think our film usage could be better, but I think a lot of teams just film the games and don't do much with it.