Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

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Why dont drivers just take the highways like 495, GW parkway, and 395?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


In a sea of other roads, metro and other options.


There are few other arterials in Upper Northwest like Connecticut Avenue and none of them can easily carry a surge of diverted traffic. The "sea" of other roads you mention includes a large number of local DC streets where kids live, play and yes, bike.


You are making the argument for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue.

Bravo!
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


That's fine. You can keep driving, if you want. Nobody is taking your car away from you.


Except that your compatriots want to do that too


no, we don't.


Stop with the Trumpian lies. We've all seen the posts demanding that DC be car free.


I should post this more often:
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?


That's a great idea. Convert the outside curb lanes to sidewalk-level bike lanes. I'm all for it.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?


That's a great idea. Convert the outside curb lanes to sidewalk-level bike lanes. I'm all for it.


You misunderstand. Don’t narrow the arterial and constrain traffic carrying capacity but put painted bike lanes on the outer sidewalks like in Germany. Aren’t bike lanes more important than a few outside bar tables?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?


That's a great idea. Convert the outside curb lanes to sidewalk-level bike lanes. I'm all for it.


You misunderstand. Don’t narrow the arterial and constrain traffic carrying capacity but put painted bike lanes on the outer sidewalks like in Germany. Aren’t bike lanes more important than a few outside bar tables?


Oh, I see. You're in favor of taking space away from pedestrians.

Bike lanes increase traffic carrying capacity.

You know who doesn't like painted bike lanes on the outer sidewalks like in Germany? German pedestrians and German bicyclists.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?


At this point why should we put bike lanes anywhere? Their advocates are obnoxious nihilists that reject any sort of compromise and the demand just isn't there.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?


At this point why should we put bike lanes anywhere? Their advocates are obnoxious nihilists that reject any sort of compromise and the demand just isn't there.


Who is asking you to put any bike lanes anywhere? Bike lanes are DDOT's job, not yours.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?


That is what Concept C envisioned. Expand the "sidewalk" by taking one of the 6 existing car lanes and dedicating it to bikes/scooters etc.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?


That's a great idea. Convert the outside curb lanes to sidewalk-level bike lanes. I'm all for it.


You misunderstand. Don’t narrow the arterial and constrain traffic carrying capacity but put painted bike lanes on the outer sidewalks like in Germany. Aren’t bike lanes more important than a few outside bar tables?


There is only so much public space. As it is, there are sidewalks, and then 6 lanes for cars. Bikes can use either.

What concept C envisioned is parking on one side 24/7, bike lanes in each direction, two through lanes at each intersection (because of the addition of left turn lanes) with then 5 full lanes for cars and the same amount of space as is currently for pedestrians, but without the pressure of bikes and scooters on the sidewalks.

Seemed like a reasonable solution. Certainly better than the one DDOT has proposed that has 24/7 parking on both sides of Connecticut Avenue at all times, which inhibits through traffic for cars and no space for cyclists, which means cyclists will just take a full lane as they can legally do to avoid being "doored" and then watch the car throughput drop radically.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not interested in your digital Amish lifestyle. Transportation is supposed to reduce the time distance and create connections between disparate geographic areas not increase time distance and separation.


You should look up some estimates for driving vs biking times around this city. My bike commute is actually faster than a driving commute would be


There's more to this region than just DC


There is, but this discussion is about bike lanes in DC.


And Connecticut is one of the main routes connecting DC to the broader region


Which is exactly why Connecticut, and all the other streets in DC like Connecticut, need bike lanes.


What about putting bike lanes on a dedicated part of the wide sidewalk, like in Europe? Thus no traffic lane impact on Connecticut and a lessened parking impact. Some space for outside cafe tables might be affected at the margins. Wouldn’t that be a way to address most needs?


At this point why should we put bike lanes anywhere? Their advocates are obnoxious nihilists that reject any sort of compromise and the demand just isn't there.


Are you willing to drive legally and safely behind me while I am riding 10MPH from Calvert to the zoo on Connecticut Avenue?
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