The Top 5 Universities for Tenured Professors at R1s is not what I expected.

[Anonymous]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/09/22/the-prestige-hierarchy-five-universities-trained-one-of-every-eight-tenure-track-faculty-at-doctoral-universities/

The Top 5 are

1. Harvard
2. University of California
3. University of Wisconsin
4. Stanford
5. University of Michigan

Ok, at least two I would expect on there, Harvard and Stanford. Michigan and Wisconsin are the shockers. Cal you see a lot, but I would honesty think MIT or Princeton.

Michigan acts like it’s Harvard, and I suspect its professional programs contribute a ton to its rankings. Wisconsin you do see a lot of faculty ( especially at Ivy League schools) but I almost assumed it’s a fluke ( I.e. they got rejected from a PhD at Cal or Harvard and went to Madison instead).

I’ll never understand how state universities, especially in insignificant states like Wisconsin, can be held in such high regard. It’s essentially an endorsement of the Wisconsin state government. I was just having a convo about UVa law the other day: its high ranking is essentially an endorsement on the state of Virginia itself. If you’re born in Virginia, you essentially have a leg-up to becoming a great jurists or big law partner. If you’re born in Wisconsin, you have a leg-up to becoming a PHD professor.

[Anonymous]

I applied to at least four of these for grad school because they were tops in my field, so it doesn't surprise me in the least. I attended one of these for my Ph.D. and most students, like me, were from out-of-state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/09/22/the-prestige-hierarchy-five-universities-trained-one-of-every-eight-tenure-track-faculty-at-doctoral-universities/

The Top 5 are

1. Harvard
2. University of California
3. University of Wisconsin
4. Stanford
5. University of Michigan

Ok, at least two I would expect on there, Harvard and Stanford. Michigan and Wisconsin are the shockers. Cal you see a lot, but I would honesty think MIT or Princeton.

Michigan acts like it’s Harvard, and I suspect its professional programs contribute a ton to its rankings. Wisconsin you do see a lot of faculty ( especially at Ivy League schools) but I almost assumed it’s a fluke ( I.e. they got rejected from a PhD at Cal or Harvard and went to Madison instead).

I’ll never understand how state universities, especially in insignificant states like Wisconsin, can be held in such high regard. It’s essentially an endorsement of the Wisconsin state government. I was just having a convo about UVa law the other day: its high ranking is essentially an endorsement on the state of Virginia itself. If you’re born in Virginia, you essentially have a leg-up to becoming a great jurists or big law partner. If you’re born in Wisconsin, you have a leg-up to becoming a PHD professor.

You are a f’ing moron.

[Anonymous]

Wisconsin and Michigan are huge schools that have excellent research funding levels. No surprise there. I’d bet you that Colorado, Minnesota, and Washington are further up on the list than you think.

[Anonymous]

Wisconsin has been a top PhD factory since forever, how did you not know that? 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
You are a f’ing moron.

Excellent contribution to the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin and Michigan are huge schools that have excellent research funding levels. No surprise there. I’d bet you that Colorado, Minnesota, and Washington are further up on the list than you think.

UW is very high in the QS rankings

[Anonymous]

I want OP to know that this is by far the lowest IQ posting I have ever seen on here.

[Anonymous]

Wisconsin is a research powerhouse. U Wisc Madison is also a great college experience!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/09/22/the-prestige-hierarchy-five-universities-trained-one-of-every-eight-tenure-track-faculty-at-doctoral-universities/

The Top 5 are

1. Harvard
2. University of California
3. University of Wisconsin
4. Stanford
5. University of Michigan

Ok, at least two I would expect on there, Harvard and Stanford. Michigan and Wisconsin are the shockers. Cal you see a lot, but I would honesty think MIT or Princeton.

Michigan acts like it’s Harvard, and I suspect its professional programs contribute a ton to its rankings. Wisconsin you do see a lot of faculty ( especially at Ivy League schools) but I almost assumed it’s a fluke ( I.e. they got rejected from a PhD at Cal or Harvard and went to Madison instead).

I’ll never understand how state universities, especially in insignificant states like Wisconsin, can be held in such high regard. It’s essentially an endorsement of the Wisconsin state government. I was just having a convo about UVa law the other day: its high ranking is essentially an endorsement on the state of Virginia itself. If you’re born in Virginia, you essentially have a leg-up to becoming a great jurists or big law partner. If you’re born in Wisconsin, you have a leg-up to becoming a PHD professor.

Wisconsin's econ program is better than Harvard's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/09/22/the-prestige-hierarchy-five-universities-trained-one-of-every-eight-tenure-track-faculty-at-doctoral-universities/

The Top 5 are

1. Harvard
2. University of California
3. University of Wisconsin
4. Stanford
5. University of Michigan

Ok, at least two I would expect on there, Harvard and Stanford. Michigan and Wisconsin are the shockers. Cal you see a lot, but I would honesty think MIT or Princeton.

Michigan acts like it’s Harvard, and I suspect its professional programs contribute a ton to its rankings. Wisconsin you do see a lot of faculty ( especially at Ivy League schools) but I almost assumed it’s a fluke ( I.e. they got rejected from a PhD at Cal or Harvard and went to Madison instead).

I’ll never understand how state universities, especially in insignificant states like Wisconsin, can be held in such high regard. It’s essentially an endorsement of the Wisconsin state government. I was just having a convo about UVa law the other day: its high ranking is essentially an endorsement on the state of Virginia itself. If you’re born in Virginia, you essentially have a leg-up to becoming a great jurists or big law partner. If you’re born in Wisconsin, you have a leg-up to becoming a PHD professor.

Wisconsin's econ program is better than Harvard's.

Who’s getting a PHD in 2025 anyway? It’s the 21st century, professional schools ( JD/MBA ) rule. Even Harvard’s PHD students have horrible prospects. It’s the Harvard business school where the future is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/09/22/the-prestige-hierarchy-five-universities-trained-one-of-every-eight-tenure-track-faculty-at-doctoral-universities/

The Top 5 are

1. Harvard
2. University of California
3. University of Wisconsin
4. Stanford
5. University of Michigan

Ok, at least two I would expect on there, Harvard and Stanford. Michigan and Wisconsin are the shockers. Cal you see a lot, but I would honesty think MIT or Princeton.

Michigan acts like it’s Harvard, and I suspect its professional programs contribute a ton to its rankings. Wisconsin you do see a lot of faculty ( especially at Ivy League schools) but I almost assumed it’s a fluke ( I.e. they got rejected from a PhD at Cal or Harvard and went to Madison instead).

I’ll never understand how state universities, especially in insignificant states like Wisconsin, can be held in such high regard. It’s essentially an endorsement of the Wisconsin state government. I was just having a convo about UVa law the other day: its high ranking is essentially an endorsement on the state of Virginia itself. If you’re born in Virginia, you essentially have a leg-up to becoming a great jurists or big law partner. If you’re born in Wisconsin, you have a leg-up to becoming a PHD professor.

Wisconsin's econ program is better than Harvard's.

Who’s getting a PHD in 2025 anyway? It’s the 21st century, professional schools ( JD/MBA ) rule. Even Harvard’s PHD students have horrible prospects. It’s the Harvard business school where the future is.

This post is even dumber than the original post.

The PhD is a research oriented degree that is needed to train academics, professors, medical researchers, etc. experts on any subject matter.

Professional degrees serve a purpose but the PhD has an important role.

[Anonymous]

Yes. It's called investing in your state university system! Supporting education, research with grants and having a good lobby of congressmen in congress to steer funding to your state schools.

[Anonymous]

It's good to see all the agreement that OP had no idea what they were talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/09/22/the-prestige-hierarchy-five-universities-trained-one-of-every-eight-tenure-track-faculty-at-doctoral-universities/

The Top 5 are

1. Harvard
2. University of California
3. University of Wisconsin
4. Stanford
5. University of Michigan

Ok, at least two I would expect on there, Harvard and Stanford. Michigan and Wisconsin are the shockers. Cal you see a lot, but I would honesty think MIT or Princeton.

Michigan acts like it’s Harvard, and I suspect its professional programs contribute a ton to its rankings. Wisconsin you do see a lot of faculty ( especially at Ivy League schools) but I almost assumed it’s a fluke ( I.e. they got rejected from a PhD at Cal or Harvard and went to Madison instead).

I’ll never understand how state universities, especially in insignificant states like Wisconsin, can be held in such high regard. It’s essentially an endorsement of the Wisconsin state government. I was just having a convo about UVa law the other day: its high ranking is essentially an endorsement on the state of Virginia itself. If you’re born in Virginia, you essentially have a leg-up to becoming a great jurists or big law partner. If you’re born in Wisconsin, you have a leg-up to becoming a PHD professor.

Wisconsin's econ program is better than Harvard's.

No, not even close. It is much better than most on DCUM would give it credit for, though.