Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

OMG no!

You are absolutely in a very small minority with this opinion!

Err, no. Wrong. The majority of Americans support Israel over a terror organization. Get out of your bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so- there are lunatics on the left.

There are far more racists who say they feel for the Palestinians but "jewish lives are sacred" and these people dont even realize that this is a racist thing to say. Herzl himself regarded the zionist project as a colonial project, you cannot consider yourself truly German and also indigenous to a Middle East your ancestors fled during the reign of Tiberius . These european jews felt that they were being forced out of Europe, so that whole argument falls apart. I agree with Miriam Margolyes's statement. The actions of Israelis- all of the ones who are jewish agree that not one loaf of bread should enter Gaza, 69 percent of Israelis/30 percent are Arab Israelis/ agree with a Middle Ages style blockade- dont jibe with the judaism that I have encountered in my life with its emphasis on empathy and healing the world.

Herzl was an extremist. Actually, many Jews were opposed to him in Europe and didn’t feel forced out of Europe in the 1800s and felt his idea of leaving Europe for Palestine was anti Semitic. They felt culturally and linguistically European and that going to create a colonial settlement in the Middle East would be doing what the anti Semites want.

His movement didn’t gain traction till after WW2/ the Holocaust . That’s when most Jews finally saw the need for Israel , but initially Jews were opposed to Herzls idea about creating an Israel in the Holy Land. They thought Jews were better off in every Middle Eastern country instead of just one .

Interesting. I've always thought the Zionist claim on Palestine due to being "the true indigenous people," based on having ancestors who lived there 2,000 years ago, was incredibly weak. If I were to demand some of "my" ancestral land in Ireland back because Oliver Cromwell stole it almost 400 years ago, I don't think I'd get very far.

Are you too dumb to understand that after 5000 years of antisemitism culminating in one massive Holocaust with 6 million Jews dead, they might need some of their homeland back, you know, just in case? Your claim on Ireland is likely not as compelling.

DP what are you going on about? 5,000 years? Homeland? No one is buying your crap anymore. Hell Israelis are refusing to fight and you want to talk about a homeland…lol

Indigenous homeland, yes. That is historical fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

OMG no!

You are absolutely in a very small minority with this opinion!

Not the person you are responding to, but I absolutely agree Israel is one of our strongest and most important allies and we need them more than they need us. Biden is weak and scared and losing his mind. That poster is not in a very small minority if you look at polls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

OMG no!

You are absolutely in a very small minority with this opinion!

Not the person you are responding to, but I absolutely agree Israel is one of our strongest and most important allies and we need them more than they need us. Biden is weak and scared and losing his mind. That poster is not in a very small minority if you look at polls.

Let me guess. We need them for intelligence right .

What do we need them for? Israel is only supported because of a so called Judeo Christian shared morality and a Biblical tale and no other reason. The shared morality that allows you to burn babies to a crisp and throw bombs the size of school buses on grandmothers heads . This is what our tax money goes to and this is our moral responsibility to Israel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

OMG no!

You are absolutely in a very small minority with this opinion!

Not the person you are responding to, but I absolutely agree Israel is one of our strongest and most important allies and we need them more than they need us. Biden is weak and scared and losing his mind. That poster is not in a very small minority if you look at polls.

Let me guess. We need them for intelligence right .

What do we need them for? Israel is only supported because of a so called Judeo Christian shared morality and a Biblical tale and no other reason. The shared morality that allows you to burn babies to a crisp and throw bombs the size of school buses on grandmothers heads . This is what our tax money goes to and this is our moral responsibility to Israel

Very selective. Are you also up in arms, so to speak, over US support to Saudi Arabia? They are by far the biggest recipient of US arms and this war has killed several HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people including children in Yemen in the past years. Any outrage over that? Or as usual, no Jews no news?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

OMG no!

You are absolutely in a very small minority with this opinion!

Err, no. Wrong. The majority of Americans support Israel over a terror organization. Get out of your bubble.

But Israel IS a terror organization. The entire world knows this now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

OMG no!

You are absolutely in a very small minority with this opinion!

Not the person you are responding to, but I absolutely agree Israel is one of our strongest and most important allies and we need them more than they need us. Biden is weak and scared and losing his mind. That poster is not in a very small minority if you look at polls.

Let me guess. We need them for intelligence right .

What do we need them for? Israel is only supported because of a so called Judeo Christian shared morality and a Biblical tale and no other reason. The shared morality that allows you to burn babies to a crisp and throw bombs the size of school buses on grandmothers heads . This is what our tax money goes to and this is our moral responsibility to Israel

Very selective. Are you also up in arms, so to speak, over US support to Saudi Arabia? They are by far the biggest recipient of US arms and this war has killed several HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people including children in Yemen in the past years. Any outrage over that? Or as usual, no Jews no news?

Saudi Arabia pays us for those weapons . They don’t receive US tax dollars /aid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so- there are lunatics on the left.

There are far more racists who say they feel for the Palestinians but "jewish lives are sacred" and these people dont even realize that this is a racist thing to say. Herzl himself regarded the zionist project as a colonial project, you cannot consider yourself truly German and also indigenous to a Middle East your ancestors fled during the reign of Tiberius . These european jews felt that they were being forced out of Europe, so that whole argument falls apart. I agree with Miriam Margolyes's statement. The actions of Israelis- all of the ones who are jewish agree that not one loaf of bread should enter Gaza, 69 percent of Israelis/30 percent are Arab Israelis/ agree with a Middle Ages style blockade- dont jibe with the judaism that I have encountered in my life with its emphasis on empathy and healing the world.

Herzl was an extremist. Actually, many Jews were opposed to him in Europe and didn’t feel forced out of Europe in the 1800s and felt his idea of leaving Europe for Palestine was anti Semitic. They felt culturally and linguistically European and that going to create a colonial settlement in the Middle East would be doing what the anti Semites want.

His movement didn’t gain traction till after WW2/ the Holocaust . That’s when most Jews finally saw the need for Israel , but initially Jews were opposed to Herzls idea about creating an Israel in the Holy Land. They thought Jews were better off in every Middle Eastern country instead of just one .

Interesting. I've always thought the Zionist claim on Palestine due to being "the true indigenous people," based on having ancestors who lived there 2,000 years ago, was incredibly weak. If I were to demand some of "my" ancestral land in Ireland back because Oliver Cromwell stole it almost 400 years ago, I don't think I'd get very far.

Are you too dumb to understand that after 5000 years of antisemitism culminating in one massive Holocaust with 6 million Jews dead, they might need some of their homeland back, you know, just in case? Your claim on Ireland is likely not as compelling.

Here's the absurd, old lie again that it was "their homeland." The region has been inhabited by humans for tens of thousands of years. Why should one of the many groups who have lived there over all these millennia suddenly have the right to evict people whose ancestors lived there for generations? This is such an incredibly entitled and selfish position. What about the rights of the people who were already living in Palestine? Palestinians have suffered greatly and been deeply wronged. The Nakba was a genocide against an entirely innocent people and was never justified by another genocide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so- there are lunatics on the left.

There are far more racists who say they feel for the Palestinians but "jewish lives are sacred" and these people dont even realize that this is a racist thing to say. Herzl himself regarded the zionist project as a colonial project, you cannot consider yourself truly German and also indigenous to a Middle East your ancestors fled during the reign of Tiberius . These european jews felt that they were being forced out of Europe, so that whole argument falls apart. I agree with Miriam Margolyes's statement. The actions of Israelis- all of the ones who are jewish agree that not one loaf of bread should enter Gaza, 69 percent of Israelis/30 percent are Arab Israelis/ agree with a Middle Ages style blockade- dont jibe with the judaism that I have encountered in my life with its emphasis on empathy and healing the world.

Herzl was an extremist. Actually, many Jews were opposed to him in Europe and didn’t feel forced out of Europe in the 1800s and felt his idea of leaving Europe for Palestine was anti Semitic. They felt culturally and linguistically European and that going to create a colonial settlement in the Middle East would be doing what the anti Semites want.

His movement didn’t gain traction till after WW2/ the Holocaust . That’s when most Jews finally saw the need for Israel , but initially Jews were opposed to Herzls idea about creating an Israel in the Holy Land. They thought Jews were better off in every Middle Eastern country instead of just one .

Interesting. I've always thought the Zionist claim on Palestine due to being "the true indigenous people," based on having ancestors who lived there 2,000 years ago, was incredibly weak. If I were to demand some of "my" ancestral land in Ireland back because Oliver Cromwell stole it almost 400 years ago, I don't think I'd get very far.

Are you too dumb to understand that after 5000 years of antisemitism culminating in one massive Holocaust with 6 million Jews dead, they might need some of their homeland back, you know, just in case? Your claim on Ireland is likely not as compelling.

Here's the absurd, old lie again that it was "their homeland." The region has been inhabited by humans for tens of thousands of years. Why should one of the many groups who have lived there over all these millennia suddenly have the right to evict people whose ancestors lived there for generations? This is such an incredibly entitled and selfish position. What about the rights of the people who were already living in Palestine? Palestinians have suffered greatly and been deeply wronged. The Nakba was a genocide against an entirely innocent people and was never justified by another genocide.

Time doesn't move in reverse though. What's the way forward? Patience is thin with the constant bickering.

[Anonymous]

Even if Palestinians never existed, Israel would’ve been in conflict with Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon over land. The Old Testament was all about Israelis fighting others -sometimes winning, often losing especially to Egypt . Many of these past Israelis are Palestinians today as well .

So the fight is a fight among family in a roundabout way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

OMG no!

You are absolutely in a very small minority with this opinion!

Err, no. Wrong. The majority of Americans support Israel over a terror organization. Get out of your bubble.

This is not true and I am Jewish. I understand the difference between religion, nationalism, and politics. The majority of Americans and the world support the innocent people of Gaza. Learn to read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so- there are lunatics on the left.

There are far more racists who say they feel for the Palestinians but "jewish lives are sacred" and these people dont even realize that this is a racist thing to say. Herzl himself regarded the zionist project as a colonial project, you cannot consider yourself truly German and also indigenous to a Middle East your ancestors fled during the reign of Tiberius . These european jews felt that they were being forced out of Europe, so that whole argument falls apart. I agree with Miriam Margolyes's statement. The actions of Israelis- all of the ones who are jewish agree that not one loaf of bread should enter Gaza, 69 percent of Israelis/30 percent are Arab Israelis/ agree with a Middle Ages style blockade- dont jibe with the judaism that I have encountered in my life with its emphasis on empathy and healing the world.

Herzl was an extremist. Actually, many Jews were opposed to him in Europe and didn’t feel forced out of Europe in the 1800s and felt his idea of leaving Europe for Palestine was anti Semitic. They felt culturally and linguistically European and that going to create a colonial settlement in the Middle East would be doing what the anti Semites want.

His movement didn’t gain traction till after WW2/ the Holocaust . That’s when most Jews finally saw the need for Israel , but initially Jews were opposed to Herzls idea about creating an Israel in the Holy Land. They thought Jews were better off in every Middle Eastern country instead of just one .

Interesting. I've always thought the Zionist claim on Palestine due to being "the true indigenous people," based on having ancestors who lived there 2,000 years ago, was incredibly weak. If I were to demand some of "my" ancestral land in Ireland back because Oliver Cromwell stole it almost 400 years ago, I don't think I'd get very far.

Are you too dumb to understand that after 5000 years of antisemitism culminating in one massive Holocaust with 6 million Jews dead, they might need some of their homeland back, you know, just in case? Your claim on Ireland is likely not as compelling.

Here's the absurd, old lie again that it was "their homeland." The region has been inhabited by humans for tens of thousands of years. Why should one of the many groups who have lived there over all these millennia suddenly have the right to evict people whose ancestors lived there for generations? This is such an incredibly entitled and selfish position. What about the rights of the people who were already living in Palestine? Palestinians have suffered greatly and been deeply wronged. The Nakba was a genocide against an entirely innocent people and was never justified by another genocide.

Time doesn't move in reverse though. What's the way forward? Patience is thin with the constant bickering.

Two state solution. Forced demilitarization of Both sides. British army and peacekeepers take over. They created this problem . Now they have to fix it. Britain takes over and will kill any suspect snd imprison and fine the family of any Palestinian or Israeli who kills people .
Universities are all mixed Arab and Israeli.

Israel should give up Nazareth and Haifa/ Northern Israel to Palestinians and take Gaza Strip instead .
It makes sense for Palestine to be continuous land , and Nazareth is mostly a Christian Arab town anyway . Many Palestinians have family in Lebanon so being closer there would make sense just like West Bank is to Jordan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

Is this satire? I don’t think American Jews would support an US war in Iran. That would a potentially dangerous slippery slope to inciting even more US anti Semitism similar to Islamophobia post 9/11 or worse . Netanyahu doesn’t deserve the protection from the US. His own people and his own cabinet wants him out of office. He is less popular than Biden. If he gets out and someone with a working brain gets in , Israel and the worlds Jewish people will be in far better hands .

Netanyahu is like a bird that flies all over the place leaving shit wherever he goes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so- there are lunatics on the left.

There are far more racists who say they feel for the Palestinians but "jewish lives are sacred" and these people dont even realize that this is a racist thing to say. Herzl himself regarded the zionist project as a colonial project, you cannot consider yourself truly German and also indigenous to a Middle East your ancestors fled during the reign of Tiberius . These european jews felt that they were being forced out of Europe, so that whole argument falls apart. I agree with Miriam Margolyes's statement. The actions of Israelis- all of the ones who are jewish agree that not one loaf of bread should enter Gaza, 69 percent of Israelis/30 percent are Arab Israelis/ agree with a Middle Ages style blockade- dont jibe with the judaism that I have encountered in my life with its emphasis on empathy and healing the world.

Herzl was an extremist. Actually, many Jews were opposed to him in Europe and didn’t feel forced out of Europe in the 1800s and felt his idea of leaving Europe for Palestine was anti Semitic. They felt culturally and linguistically European and that going to create a colonial settlement in the Middle East would be doing what the anti Semites want.

His movement didn’t gain traction till after WW2/ the Holocaust . That’s when most Jews finally saw the need for Israel , but initially Jews were opposed to Herzls idea about creating an Israel in the Holy Land. They thought Jews were better off in every Middle Eastern country instead of just one .

Interesting. I've always thought the Zionist claim on Palestine due to being "the true indigenous people," based on having ancestors who lived there 2,000 years ago, was incredibly weak. If I were to demand some of "my" ancestral land in Ireland back because Oliver Cromwell stole it almost 400 years ago, I don't think I'd get very far.

The “Zionist” (a term that is incredibly anti-Semitic) claim is not that our right to Israel comes from anyone who lived there 2000 years ago.

Our claim is that the Jewish people have a history of residence in the area that is currently considered to be Israel (as well as the West Bank and Gaza) that stretches back thousands of years. Additionally, outside of periods where the land was under the control of invading nations (Romans, Turks, British, and most recently the Palestinians), the Jewish people have been the governing body of the land. They have a very strong claim, which is why they are recognized as the leaders of modern Israel, not Hamas.

Zionism is an acquisitive, expansionist, imperialist, racist, selfish, colonial, and genocidal ideology. Judaism is a religion. Stop trying to hijack the term "antisemitism" to justify the evil and supremacist philosophy of Zionism. That is in itself antisemitic. Judaism is not Zionism, and antisemitism is not anti-Zionism. You stain Judaism when you associate it with Zionism.

MANY people, including today's Palestinians, have a history of residence in what is currently considered to be Israel. Every one of us has a history of residence in Africa, which is where our species originated. Does that mean we can take over Ethiopia and evict the current indigenous people? Many of us have a history of residence in what is now Israel, as our ancestors lived in that land on their journey out of Africa. It was the first land traversed by ancient humans as they exited Africa. UN Resolution 181 was a terrible mistake. It should have been mitigated by UN Resolution 194, but Zionists, true to their overweening cultural narcissism, believe they can pick and choose which international laws suit them.

The land currently called Israel has been continuously inhabited by humans for possibly more than 100,000 years. It was certainly inhabited tens of thousands of years before Judaism was even invented. It has been conquered and re-conquered repeatedly. Why should one group that lived there 2,000 years ago and then left and mingled with other populations suddenly be given the region? If we were to apply that precedent the world over, there would be absolute chaos.

Do you ever stop to think of the rights of Palestinians, or do you consider them so ethnically inferior that they can simply be evicted or exterminated for the convenience of Zionists? Do you want to murder them all so you can build new settlements in Gaza or the West Bank before their bodies are cold? Many Palestinians are the descendants of people who lived in the region millennia before Judaism was invented. Some are descendants of Jews and had ancestors that converted to Islam or Christianity. In what world should THESE people suddenly lose their rights to invading hordes who had been absent for thousands of years and were as much native to Poland or Russia as to Palestine? During the Nakba, thousands of Palestinians were murdered, raped, and had their land and belongings stolen by Zionist invaders, and about three-quarters of a million of them were evicted from their homes, driven across borders, and murdered if they tried to revisit their homes. This is an absolutely despicable blot on human history. Israel should be doing what Germany does. It should admit it conducted genocide during the Nakba and is continuing to do so now and then redress the atrocities of its past. That is the way forward for all of us as we collectively come to terms with our primitive and bloodthirsty history and attempt to reinvent ourselves as ethical and equitable.

There is breathtaking irony in your attempts to weaponize "antisemitism" to allow the genocide of indigenous Palestinians. Breathtaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of getting manipulated into funding and fighting proxy wars for another nation, we need to focus on our own nation's problems. Priorities.

What we need to do is stop messing around and put US boots on the ground both in Gaza and against Iran.


Israel has been one of our strongest and most important allies, and they are in a desperate battle with Hamas to prevent the genocide of their people, and Biden sits there and does nothing. The fact our brave service members are not standing side by side with the heroic IDF forces in Gaza as they save the Palestinian people from Hamas is tragic, it’s sick, and Biden’s refusal to act is worthy of impeachment.

OMG no!

You are absolutely in a very small minority with this opinion!

Err, no. Wrong. The majority of Americans support Israel over a terror organization. Get out of your bubble.

This is not true and I am Jewish. I understand the difference between religion, nationalism, and politics. The majority of Americans and the world support the innocent people of Gaza. Learn to read.

Learn to read what? Polls? The latest Harvard Harris poll showed 82% of Americans support Israel over Hamas. You can Google it and it’s on a billboard on CT Ave right now.

No one said that people don’t support innocent people of Gaza. Although it’s also true according to a Palestinian think tank’s poll that 72% of Palestinians support what Hamas did on Oct 7. You can google that too.