Rising jr is interested in small liberal arts colleges. Obviously fit is important and so we need to visit. But there are so many -- how do we begin narrowing it down to a reasonable list? His preferences: no large divide between athletes and everyone else, leaning liberal without constant emphasis on identity politics, and students leaning more toward PhD programs than finance/wall street. |
Avoid NESCAC due to high athlete percentages. Carleton sounds about right. |
Pomona, Swat, Harvey Mudd |
Macalester, Kenyon |
To get a sense of where future Ph.D.s are highest per capita:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs You'll see the usual suspects as well as some less commonly discussed schools with a range of acceptance rates. |
To narrow things down, have your kid really think about preferences in location and distance. He may be able to lop off a large percentage if he decides he wants to be less than a 10-hour drive away, or he DOES want to go far from home to be somewhere new, or he wants a school in the middle of lots of nature or near a medium or large town or city.
As you say, there are a ton of SLACs, and many meet the criteria you’ve already mentioned. The more criteria he can add, the fewer he has to sift through. |
Davidson |
You need LACs that aren’t that big on sports. Carleton, Haverford, Swat, Grinnell, Macalester. Maybe Wes just because it’s a little bigger than other NESCACs. |
LOL !!! No ! OP wants schools which "lean liberal without constant emphasis on identity politics" ; Macalester College and Kenyon College are two of the most liberal colleges in the nation as they make Haverford College's identity politics look reasonable. |
Well, the more “conservative” LACs have huge athlete/non-athlete divides. |
Sounds like Carleton is the best fit. Maybe also Swarthmore, Kenyon, and Haverford. Avoid NESCACs and some of the southern LACs. I would say Reed, but it may be too political. |
I was also thinking Carleton as the perfect fit when reading OP’s post. Building off a Carleton base, I’d also look at Grinnell and Davidson and branch out from there. Maybe Haverford, Colgate.
As a bonus for Carleton, when visiting Northfield, you should also dedicate time to tour St. Olaf, which really impressed us. OP, get a copy of the Fiske guide (your library will have a copy, but it’s cheap and a worthwhile investment, as your kid can mark it up, add post-its, etc., if you have your own copy). |
Thanks all. The list of PhD feeders was particularly helpful. It sounds like we need to plan trips to Philadelphia (easy), Minnesota, and southern California. Seeing the more isolated schools -- Grinnell and Kenyon -- would be harder, but I don't think he wants a school completely in the middle of nowhere. Being able to rule out most schools in New England is helpful. |
Or make your own little list, like in excel, if they even use excel anymore ! |
100% I think the original post describes Davidson perfectly. Not too politically wound up, sports but no lacrosse bros, not dominated by Wall Street people. |