would you send 4s on AP to middlebury?
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Anonymous
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from private school with no AP courses so these were all self-studied. easy enough to omit, lots of other better testing.
but maybe self studying shows initiative? in macro, micro and language . |
Anonymous
| I think the core AP classes hold more weight. I don't suspect they have much of an effect on addmissions to be honest, but 4s are a good score so I'd submit for Middlebury and other like schools. |
Anonymous
| Sarah at AN would know. Maybe someone can post there |
Anonymous
| Ask your school admissions counselor. |
Anonymous
| I would not. A 4 is not very strong and may be distracting in a package with otherwise good test scores and grades. |
Anonymous
| You’ll have to do your specific research for Midd but many selective schools don’t even look at the score until it is time to figure out if they can count towards credits/prereqs. That’s how it worked for my kid at another NESCAC. So after admission. For kids who take the AP classes, they are a proxy for rigor depending on what is offered at the school. Kids from private schools with no APs obviously demonstrate rigor in class work differently. DC will still get one of the generic AP awards that can go in the awards list. That way you are telling schools that he took the tests and scored in an acceptable range. Midd will have their AP exam policy posted somewhere on the website. If 4s are good enough to bypass intro courses in the relevant classes (most likely benefit at a school like Midd) then of course you should report them. 4 is a good score. Maybe you should report them anyway. |
Anonymous
They will look at them if you send them in the common app. My gut feeling is you should not include them. The benefit of going to a private school is the chance that schools will assume your kids are getting a superior education in their special, non-AP courses. If you send in 4s, that is just a data point against that assumption, because a lot of public school kids are getting 5s. |
Anonymous
| My kid submitted three 5s and three 4s to Middlebury (from a private with APs); was admitted RD, so it obviously wasn't a fatal mistake and it might have helped. |
Anonymous
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First of all, they're good scores. Don't lose sight of that. These aren't easy tests. Nevertheless, I wouldn't submit the econ scores, because Middlebury only grants advanced placement for 5s in Econ:
https://www.middlebury.edu/college/academics/international-politics-economics/courses/advanced-placement My thinking is that if the kid is applying for Econ, they aren't going to strengthen the app and if the kid isn't applying for Econ, they're kind of irrelevant. I don't know about Lang but I don't see a compelling reason to submit. |
Anonymous
This comment is nonsense, don't pay any attention to it. |
Anonymous
For Middlebury you do not apply by major so the Econ piece doesn't matter. Overall what are you trying to convey? Middlebury does not give credit for AP classes and only uses AP scores for placement in some entry level classes. Overall the scores likely aren't particularly interesting for Middlebury admissions. |
Anonymous
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I think self studying DOES show a lot of intellectual curiosity - esp if they took no Econ at all.
The downside is Econ is overenrolled so unless the "story" is Econ, it's not a subject I'd lean into. Was SAT/ACT over 1500/35? |
Anonymous
| OP yeah, SAT is a 1530 |
Anonymous
| Probably neutral |
Anonymous
| I would not, unlikely to help |