DH and I are fighting over whether to take our 12 year old to a Tyler the creator concert, which she desperately wants to attend. Would you let your kid see this artist live? |
I think no.
I went to my first big concert around 17. The man behind us spilled a beer that ran onto the floor under our seats. I'm 5'2. I don't enjoy standing concerts because I'm often in someone's armpit or can't see well. My general impression is that a lot of people are buzzed or high at concerts. I'd wait until your kid is older. Is your DH going? Who turned this kid on to a guy who was in a humor group called "I smell panties"? |
Tap sucks live anyway |
Rap |
OP here. DH is willing to go with her. My concern is his lyrics. She discovered Tyler through a friend at school. I went to concerts with my parents at her age, but it was wholesome music. |
Yeah Tyler's great, just up there swearing at a bunch of kids |
12 for Tyler the Creator, I'd say no. 14, I'd be ok with. |
Yes, but we are pretty liberal with cursing in music. My kids know how to differentiate. He is extremely talented. |
Cursing isn’t the end of the world, but what about some of the themes in the music? I try not to have my girls celebrate misogyny. |
+1. He is trash |
No i would not. I mean he was literally banned from australia because hes that misogynistic, so what does that tell you? |
You're being rude and not very insightful. And not even arguing with the person who wrote the "stream of consciousness babbling". That's me, not the person you just responded to. The point is, stupid and bad stuff happens at concerts. Mom OP can read between the lines. I originally wasn't going to get into any value judgments about "Tyler the Creator". So I left my remarks impressionistic. I wouldn't let my 12 year old go to a rap concert, even with dad. Paying for a concert basically means you're endorsing the values and scene, and you're funding it with a big amount of cash instead of listening to it for free. I don't care about cursing and the misogyny 100% comes with the genre and has to be taken or left. I do let my kids listen to rap radio FOR FREE in the car (Eminem, Nelly, TI, Ludacris, Drake). I appreciate the lyrical brilliance of many of the biggest hits, and the intensity of the music. But a lot of it is pretty trashy stuff, no matter how clever. Part of the reason I enjoy it is that it's totally transgressive. This is a typical dilemma with pop music that's been happening since the 1940s. I bet the Tyler fans are going to be a bit too mature for a 12 year old to be around. This isn't really about censorship in the absolute sense. It's about not exposing your 12 year old to idiot mature fans behaving like idiot adults, a concert experience that possibly might be subpar for a short, young person, and possibly hearing randomly offensive remarks offered by the main artist. I also still don't like buzzed and high strangers orbiting around me to this day. And my experiences with that were all had at whitebread rock concerts. So it's not anti-rap prejudice. OP can google to find some clips of Tyler live to get a sense of what will be happening live. There are plenty. Also, every kid needs to understand about hearing safety before they go heavy into Airpods, headphones, and live concerts. Have a plan and appropriate strategies to preserve hearing. |
Yes!!
Our child went w a bunch of friends |
Yes, if she's going with her dad. |
Girl you have noooo idea what youre talking about and just make yourself look foolish. Tyler Creator has rape and death threats throughout his early work... so far beyond the usual misogyny you find in mainstream rap. Why dont people take a tiny amount of time to google before rambling on about something they have no clue about? |