Referral to Admin for cheating

[Anonymous]

During the last exam in one of DD's classes, she reached for her phone to answer one of my texts. The teacher told her that she would receive a zero for the test. We fully acknowledge that she should not have used the phone. However, when she sent an email to explain the situation to the teacher, he said that the time line did not add up. He had made a referral to the admin 10 minutes prior to my text. DD is insisting that she did not use the phone until she saw my text. Does anyone know what the " admin referral" is and how it is done in MCPS? Is there an electronic time stamp like an email?

Would really appreciate any insight that you may have.



 

[Anonymous]

OP, I know this may be hard to hear, but as parents we NEED to let our kids experience some consequences.

Let it go.

If you want to look up anything, it should be your kid's call and text log through your mobile carrier.

The phone shouldn't have been out, period, and definitely not checked during an exam. The consequences could have been worse if it were a college exam, an AP test, etc...

What they should have done is written an apology letter and asked to retake with full supervision, the zero wouldn't have been enforced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:During the last exam in one of DD's classes, she reached for her phone to answer one of my texts. The teacher told her that she would receive a zero for the test. We fully acknowledge that she should not have used the phone. However, when she sent an email to explain the situation to the teacher, he said that the time line did not add up. He had made a referral to the admin 10 minutes prior to my text. DD is insisting that she did not use the phone until she saw my text. Does anyone know what the " admin referral" is and how it is done in MCPS? Is there an electronic time stamp like an email?

Would really appreciate any insight that you may have.



 

appeal and make the teacher allow her to retake the test. Involve lawyer if needed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I know this may be hard to hear, but as parents we NEED to let our kids experience some consequences.

Let it go.

If you want to look up anything, it should be your kid's call and text log through your mobile carrier.

The phone shouldn't have been out, period, and definitely not checked during an exam. The consequences could have been worse if it were a college exam, an AP test, etc...

What they should have done is written an apology letter and asked to retake with full supervision, the zero wouldn't have been enforced.

This. She knew she got a text because she was already on it and/or had it out.

Let it go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:During the last exam in one of DD's classes, she reached for her phone to answer one of my texts. The teacher told her that she would receive a zero for the test. We fully acknowledge that she should not have used the phone. However, when she sent an email to explain the situation to the teacher, he said that the time line did not add up. He had made a referral to the admin 10 minutes prior to my text. DD is insisting that she did not use the phone until she saw my text. Does anyone know what the " admin referral" is and how it is done in MCPS? Is there an electronic time stamp like an email?

Would really appreciate any insight that you may have.



 

appeal and make the teacher allow her to retake the test. Involve lawyer if needed

This is the worst advice. Good grief, get a grip

[Anonymous]

What was so urgent that the text couldn't wait until lunch or the end of the day (whichever came first)?

[Anonymous]

It shouldn’t be a court case. Your kid did something she knew would result in failure if she was caught. Let her feel it so she doesn’t make similar mistakes in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I know this may be hard to hear, but as parents we NEED to let our kids experience some consequences.

Let it go.

If you want to look up anything, it should be your kid's call and text log through your mobile carrier.

The phone shouldn't have been out, period, and definitely not checked during an exam. The consequences could have been worse if it were a college exam, an AP test, etc...

What they should have done is written an apology letter and asked to retake with full supervision, the zero wouldn't have been enforced.

This. She knew she got a text because she was already on it and/or had it out.

Let it go.

This.

Why was her phone even out to see and respond to your text? Phones should be away, particularly during exams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I know this may be hard to hear, but as parents we NEED to let our kids experience some consequences.

Let it go.

If you want to look up anything, it should be your kid's call and text log through your mobile carrier.

The phone shouldn't have been out, period, and definitely not checked during an exam. The consequences could have been worse if it were a college exam, an AP test, etc...

What they should have done is written an apology letter and asked to retake with full supervision, the zero wouldn't have been enforced.

+1
No phone during a test, no excuses. Your kid needs to take responsibility and have impulse control. If they can’t control themselves, maybe you should not have given them the phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:During the last exam in one of DD's classes, she reached for her phone to answer one of my texts. The teacher told her that she would receive a zero for the test. We fully acknowledge that she should not have used the phone. However, when she sent an email to explain the situation to the teacher, he said that the time line did not add up. He had made a referral to the admin 10 minutes prior to my text. DD is insisting that she did not use the phone until she saw my text. Does anyone know what the " admin referral" is and how it is done in MCPS? Is there an electronic time stamp like an email?

Would really appreciate any insight that you may have.



 

Nothing to see here, your DD is in the wrong. Time to learn actions have consequences.

[Anonymous]

Stop texting your kid when she's at school. If something is so urgent, go to the school to get her or call the school so they can get her. If it doesn't rise to that level it can wait until the end of the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I know this may be hard to hear, but as parents we NEED to let our kids experience some consequences.

Let it go.

If you want to look up anything, it should be your kid's call and text log through your mobile carrier.

The phone shouldn't have been out, period, and definitely not checked during an exam. The consequences could have been worse if it were a college exam, an AP test, etc...

What they should have done is written an apology letter and asked to retake with full supervision, the zero wouldn't have been enforced.

+1
No phone during a test, no excuses. Your kid needs to take responsibility and have impulse control. If they can’t control themselves, maybe you should not have given them the phone.

This. Jeebus H Christ. I'm on the road every day with people like this. Put. the. phone. out. of. reach. if you can't resist it.

[Anonymous]

Yikes. I agree with everyone else. You have to allow her to face the consequences. It is not a teacher or admins job to investigate the time she sent a text, who texted, etc. the phone should not have been out period. This is a good lesson for both of you.

[Anonymous]

Your daughter is not telling you the truth.

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry you're both in this situation. Do you think it's possible, OP, that she could have been looking at her phone before you sent your text?

This is public school, I don't think you need to worry about a note on her transcript for college admissions (like in some strict privates). But maybe she or you can say, during the administrative interview or whatever it is, that she had no intention of cheating and has no history of cheating. They might believe you, since this is the first time, and not give her a zero on the test. Or they might uphold the zero, who knows. Sometimes life isn't fair.

The main lesson is that YOUR CHILD SHOULD NOT GO NEAR HER PHONE DURING EXAMS. My teen's Spanish teacher has the kids put their phones in a holder next to the door every time there's a test. And please try to remember not to text your kid during school hours, unless there's an emergency. It's distracting.