Referral to Admin for cheating

[Anonymous]

This is a good wake-up call to not text my kid during the day. Yes i am guilty, if i am honest. Damn. Time for a reset!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:During the last exam in one of DD's classes, she reached for her phone to answer one of my texts. The teacher told her that she would receive a zero for the test. We fully acknowledge that she should not have used the phone. However, when she sent an email to explain the situation to the teacher, he said that the time line did not add up. He had made a referral to the admin 10 minutes prior to my text. DD is insisting that she did not use the phone until she saw my text. Does anyone know what the " admin referral" is and how it is done in MCPS? Is there an electronic time stamp like an email?

Would really appreciate any insight that you may have.

 

The admin referral form does include a place for the teacher to enter the time, but even if it didn't, which of these two people are more likely to be lying?

A) A student who panicked about a question and tried to cheat; or

B) A teacher who claims to have seen a child cheating, and made his life harder by reporting it.

Think twice before you accuse the teacher of lying, OP.

[Anonymous]

Let’s say your daughter is telling the truth. Nonetheless, she took a risk by having her phone out during the test, and that risk was being accused of cheating if she was on her phone. Now she will learn to keep her phone off and away and treat it like kryptonite during exams.

Why would the teacher lie, OP? It’s more work and grief for them. Does your daughter know you are trying to get the time stamped information from the teacher? I would go through with getting that documentation because if your kid is doubling down by lying to you, that’s a big problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real question us why your daughter can't follow basic, clear instructions. Does she think rules don't apply to her? Does she have adhd?

Did you read the OP? It's obvious she's been raised to think the rules don't apply to her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a good wake-up call to not text my kid during the day. Yes i am guilty, if i am honest. Damn. Time for a reset!

WHY are you texting her while she’s at school?

[Anonymous]

I am happy to read that everyone responding to OP, parents and teachers alike, are of the same mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am happy to read that everyone responding to OP, parents and teachers alike, are of the same mind.

Same. I am also pleasantly astonished to hear that an MCPS teacher is actually trying to implement a consequence and hasn't totally thrown in the towel in despair on holding a student accountable. Parent trying to run roughshod over the teacher and trying to let their kid squirm out is totally par for the course, obviously. Go teacher.

[Anonymous]

A most likely scenarios is:
A) Larla was taking pictures of the test to share with friends who are going to take the later. This is really common.
Or
B) She wanted to quickly look up an answer on the test
Either way she got caught and gets a referral. Asks to go to the bathroom and uses someone’s phone to tell her mom to text her. Mom doesn’t want it on her record so does. Now they try to use that as proof she wasn’t cheating.

[Anonymous]

The days of blaming the referee are over. I just wonder if they are going to do anything for the teachers that were ousted throughout the years for making a fair system and reporting crime and violence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The days of blaming the referee are over. I just wonder if they are going to do anything for the teachers that were ousted throughout the years for making a fair system and reporting crime and violence.

[Anonymous]

Far too many toxic parents in Moco.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I know this may be hard to hear, but as parents we NEED to let our kids experience some consequences.

Let it go.

If you want to look up anything, it should be your kid's call and text log through your mobile carrier.

The phone shouldn't have been out, period, and definitely not checked during an exam. The consequences could have been worse if it were a college exam, an AP test, etc...

What they should have done is written an apology letter and asked to retake with full supervision, the zero wouldn't have been enforced.

This. She knew she got a text because she was already on it and/or had it out.

Let it go.

+1 There are clear rules about having phones in classrooms in most schools. I'm sure most teachers have zero tolerance rules for testing situations. And you shouldn't be texting your kid during school hours unless it's really time sensitive and urgent. Lesson learned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:During the last exam in one of DD's classes, she reached for her phone to answer one of my texts. The teacher told her that she would receive a zero for the test. We fully acknowledge that she should not have used the phone. However, when she sent an email to explain the situation to the teacher, he said that the time line did not add up. He had made a referral to the admin 10 minutes prior to my text. DD is insisting that she did not use the phone until she saw my text. Does anyone know what the " admin referral" is and how it is done in MCPS? Is there an electronic time stamp like an email?

Would really appreciate any insight that you may have.

 

The admin referral form does include a place for the teacher to enter the time, but even if it didn't, which of these two people are more likely to be lying?

A) A student who panicked about a question and tried to cheat; or

B) A teacher who claims to have seen a child cheating, and made his life harder by reporting it.

Think twice before you accuse the teacher of lying, OP.

+1 This. Tell your kid to keep their phone off during school hours. They're addictive devices. I'm glad my kid's middle school requires kids to keep their phones in lockers from 9-3. If not, it would be too much temptation.

[Anonymous]

You are right to advocate for your DD. I wish someone had advocated for me. In this scenario, it does seem that the professor may be right. That doesn’t remove from your baseline responsibility to advocate for your child at all times.

You think MCPS is going to advocate in any way, and at any time, on your behalf?

[Anonymous]

Stop texting your kid at school.