ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know BY crowds still hold last hope that GA and MLSN not announce yet and some can definitely win mental gymnastics. You will all know in 2 months and possibly need some therapy.

At this point GA and MLSN WILL announce SY but allow for rules that essentially allow older Q1/Q2 to be on the teams -- ya know BYo-banding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:850 pages just to tell us ECNL and GA is moving to SY. We get it. Keep the remaining pages until next tryout season and you easily reach 2000 pages.

Most are waiting to see what kind of transition, if any will happen next year. Or if the plan will be released after tryouts is the latest.

There was no transition with changing to birth year and there won't be one for changing to sy.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:850 pages just to tell us ECNL and GA is moving to SY. We get it. Keep the remaining pages until next tryout season and you easily reach 2000 pages.

Most are waiting to see what kind of transition, if any will happen next year. Or if the plan will be released after tryouts is the latest.

There was no transition with changing to birth year and there won't be one for changing to sy.

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Except some leagues actually jumped the gun and didn't get in trouble -- would not be surprising if similar actions play out here.

[Anonymous]

BY truthers back in full force. We lost them for a couple hundred pages, but the MLSN BY delusion has given them hope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BY truthers back in full force. We lost them for a couple hundred pages, but the MLSN BY delusion has given them hope.

They didn't even acknowledge that MLSN is aware of RAE and are actively making adjustments to correct it. They are surrounded, but not giving in, kind of impressive?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

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“Everyone has to agree with me, that little Timmy is the bestest, or I will throw a tantrum on an anonymous forum and accuse everyone of being a Q1 parent!😭🍼”

BY truthers argue “it doesn’t matter because Q1 kids just work harder…” but then get upset about the age change and claim some leagues will stay BY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BY truthers back in full force. We lost them for a couple hundred pages, but the MLSN BY delusion has given them hope.

To be fair to the BY crowd, the only thing we know 100% is that USCS/USYS will require a chance to SY (9/1) in the fall of 2026.

It's human nature to bury your head in the sand and ignore the rumors that there could be rule changes that allow fall bdays to play down in 25/26. Everyone has to do it their own way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:850 pages just to tell us ECNL and GA is moving to SY. We get it. Keep the remaining pages until next tryout season and you easily reach 2000 pages.

Most are waiting to see what kind of transition, if any will happen next year. Or if the plan will be released after tryouts is the latest.

There was no transition with changing to birth year and there won't be one for changing to sy.

Sure, Sure….Keep the blinders on

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

It's a legitimate question; how will they fuse the two registrations together?

Do they really need to "fuse" the organizations together? They're not actually "together" now by just having the same age registration.

It's still the same overall pool of players under the organization. The birth dates of kids doesn't change.

But they will be recruiting from a SY system, which if history is an indicator will lean more heavily towards Q4 kids in a few years. How will they be able to scout for a BY system at that point, they will have to have an actual feeder league, or the discontinuity wouldn't be worth it. They just put out a release saying their scouting has been off, hence the change to quality of play, why would they make that aspect even more difficult?

I personally think many people are overestimating this as a problem so extreme that it requires alignment with lower clubs. MLSN will likely prioritize with higher clubs - academy level, international academies, USNT, etc (international alignment was the main reason MLSN was in favor of the change to BY in 2016, and are still against changing to SY now).

MLSN likely won't care what "system" they're recruiting from. They're recruiting players based on skill, physical talents, decision making, and development potential, and already can base that off the quality of MLSN competition. They can invite the kid to ID sessions or to practice with the team. A Q4 kid could be dominating at the RCL level but still not be good enough for MLSN. Again, the actual birth date of a kid doesn't change and MLSN will know whether he/she is good enough, whether he/she is older or younger for his/her rec team. MLSN can recruit a standout from a church league if that kid is actually good. And kids who are good enough to play MLS Next basically have to play good enough to play a year or two up already.

These are logistical challenges and valid questions, but I don't personally believe MLSN's hand will be forced by this. They still no how to scout talent and recruit. And they likely would've announced already.

I could be wrong. And I won't be surprised if they do or do not change to SY. But the logistical challenges or evaluation concerns from the change won't be the reason.

You mistook p2p MLSN for MLSN Academy.

MLSN Academy will remain in BY. No one argues it.

p2p MLSN will be the same cutoff as MLS2, which should be SY to address to reduce trap player issues and better college recruiting. If they stay in BY, both MLSN and MLS2 will lose a lot of SepQ4 players, which means less revenue to club owners.

BY crowds are from p2p MLSN and worry about losing their status quo after p2p MLSN switches to SY. They won the mental gymnastics for the next two months.

Academies and “Next” are the same league genius.

Exactly MLS Academies and MLSN P2P play the SAME league = MLSN Next league !!

So how could MLS Academies be BY and P2P be SY???

It doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

It's a legitimate question; how will they fuse the two registrations together?

Do they really need to "fuse" the organizations together? They're not actually "together" now by just having the same age registration.

It's still the same overall pool of players under the organization. The birth dates of kids doesn't change.

But they will be recruiting from a SY system, which if history is an indicator will lean more heavily towards Q4 kids in a few years. How will they be able to scout for a BY system at that point, they will have to have an actual feeder league, or the discontinuity wouldn't be worth it. They just put out a release saying their scouting has been off, hence the change to quality of play, why would they make that aspect even more difficult?

I personally think many people are overestimating this as a problem so extreme that it requires alignment with lower clubs. MLSN will likely prioritize with higher clubs - academy level, international academies, USNT, etc (international alignment was the main reason MLSN was in favor of the change to BY in 2016, and are still against changing to SY now).

MLSN likely won't care what "system" they're recruiting from. They're recruiting players based on skill, physical talents, decision making, and development potential, and already can base that off the quality of MLSN competition. They can invite the kid to ID sessions or to practice with the team. A Q4 kid could be dominating at the RCL level but still not be good enough for MLSN. Again, the actual birth date of a kid doesn't change and MLSN will know whether he/she is good enough, whether he/she is older or younger for his/her rec team. MLSN can recruit a standout from a church league if that kid is actually good. And kids who are good enough to play MLS Next basically have to play good enough to play a year or two up already.

These are logistical challenges and valid questions, but I don't personally believe MLSN's hand will be forced by this. They still no how to scout talent and recruit. And they likely would've announced already.

I could be wrong. And I won't be surprised if they do or do not change to SY. But the logistical challenges or evaluation concerns from the change won't be the reason.

You mistook p2p MLSN for MLSN Academy.

MLSN Academy will remain in BY. No one argues it.

p2p MLSN will be the same cutoff as MLS2, which should be SY to address to reduce trap player issues and better college recruiting. If they stay in BY, both MLSN and MLS2 will lose a lot of SepQ4 players, which means less revenue to club owners.

BY crowds are from p2p MLSN and worry about losing their status quo after p2p MLSN switches to SY. They won the mental gymnastics for the next two months.

Academies and “Next” are the same league genius.

Exactly MLS Academies and MLSN P2P play the SAME league = MLSN Next league !!

So how could MLS Academies be BY and P2P be SY???

It doesn't make sense.

I thought the academies play up?

[Anonymous]

I'm telling you all ... They will announce SY but staying BY via BYo-banding ... MLSN/GA will dominate over ECNL forevermore because their teams will have 18 month age ranges!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm telling you all ... They will announce SY but staying BY via BYo-banding ... MLSN/GA will dominate over ECNL forevermore because their teams will have 18 month age ranges!

My Dec. kid is currently competing with a 20 months older kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

It's a legitimate question; how will they fuse the two registrations together?

Do they really need to "fuse" the organizations together? They're not actually "together" now by just having the same age registration.

It's still the same overall pool of players under the organization. The birth dates of kids doesn't change.

But they will be recruiting from a SY system, which if history is an indicator will lean more heavily towards Q4 kids in a few years. How will they be able to scout for a BY system at that point, they will have to have an actual feeder league, or the discontinuity wouldn't be worth it. They just put out a release saying their scouting has been off, hence the change to quality of play, why would they make that aspect even more difficult?

I personally think many people are overestimating this as a problem so extreme that it requires alignment with lower clubs. MLSN will likely prioritize with higher clubs - academy level, international academies, USNT, etc (international alignment was the main reason MLSN was in favor of the change to BY in 2016, and are still against changing to SY now).

MLSN likely won't care what "system" they're recruiting from. They're recruiting players based on skill, physical talents, decision making, and development potential, and already can base that off the quality of MLSN competition. They can invite the kid to ID sessions or to practice with the team. A Q4 kid could be dominating at the RCL level but still not be good enough for MLSN. Again, the actual birth date of a kid doesn't change and MLSN will know whether he/she is good enough, whether he/she is older or younger for his/her rec team. MLSN can recruit a standout from a church league if that kid is actually good. And kids who are good enough to play MLS Next basically have to play good enough to play a year or two up already.

These are logistical challenges and valid questions, but I don't personally believe MLSN's hand will be forced by this. They still no how to scout talent and recruit. And they likely would've announced already.

I could be wrong. And I won't be surprised if they do or do not change to SY. But the logistical challenges or evaluation concerns from the change won't be the reason.

You mistook p2p MLSN for MLSN Academy.

MLSN Academy will remain in BY. No one argues it.

p2p MLSN will be the same cutoff as MLS2, which should be SY to address to reduce trap player issues and better college recruiting. If they stay in BY, both MLSN and MLS2 will lose a lot of SepQ4 players, which means less revenue to club owners.

BY crowds are from p2p MLSN and worry about losing their status quo after p2p MLSN switches to SY. They won the mental gymnastics for the next two months.

Academies and “Next” are the same league genius.

Exactly MLS Academies and MLSN P2P play the SAME league = MLSN Next league !!

So how could MLS Academies be BY and P2P be SY???

It doesn't make sense.

It doesn’t make sense for academy team beats my mlsn team 7:0 and 12:0 to another mlsn team. Players who join academy team already play up in their original teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm telling you all ... They will announce SY but staying BY via BYo-banding ... MLSN/GA will dominate over ECNL forevermore because their teams will have 18 month age ranges!

My Dec. kid is currently competing with a 20 months older kid.

SEE IT'S ALREADY SECRETLY HAPPENING!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

It's a legitimate question; how will they fuse the two registrations together?

Do they really need to "fuse" the organizations together? They're not actually "together" now by just having the same age registration.

It's still the same overall pool of players under the organization. The birth dates of kids doesn't change.

But they will be recruiting from a SY system, which if history is an indicator will lean more heavily towards Q4 kids in a few years. How will they be able to scout for a BY system at that point, they will have to have an actual feeder league, or the discontinuity wouldn't be worth it. They just put out a release saying their scouting has been off, hence the change to quality of play, why would they make that aspect even more difficult?

I personally think many people are overestimating this as a problem so extreme that it requires alignment with lower clubs. MLSN will likely prioritize with higher clubs - academy level, international academies, USNT, etc (international alignment was the main reason MLSN was in favor of the change to BY in 2016, and are still against changing to SY now).

MLSN likely won't care what "system" they're recruiting from. They're recruiting players based on skill, physical talents, decision making, and development potential, and already can base that off the quality of MLSN competition. They can invite the kid to ID sessions or to practice with the team. A Q4 kid could be dominating at the RCL level but still not be good enough for MLSN. Again, the actual birth date of a kid doesn't change and MLSN will know whether he/she is good enough, whether he/she is older or younger for his/her rec team. MLSN can recruit a standout from a church league if that kid is actually good. And kids who are good enough to play MLS Next basically have to play good enough to play a year or two up already.

These are logistical challenges and valid questions, but I don't personally believe MLSN's hand will be forced by this. They still no how to scout talent and recruit. And they likely would've announced already.

I could be wrong. And I won't be surprised if they do or do not change to SY. But the logistical challenges or evaluation concerns from the change won't be the reason.

You mistook p2p MLSN for MLSN Academy.

MLSN Academy will remain in BY. No one argues it.

p2p MLSN will be the same cutoff as MLS2, which should be SY to address to reduce trap player issues and better college recruiting. If they stay in BY, both MLSN and MLS2 will lose a lot of SepQ4 players, which means less revenue to club owners.

BY crowds are from p2p MLSN and worry about losing their status quo after p2p MLSN switches to SY. They won the mental gymnastics for the next two months.

Academies and “Next” are the same league genius.

Exactly MLS Academies and MLSN P2P play the SAME league = MLSN Next league !!

So how could MLS Academies be BY and P2P be SY???

It doesn't make sense.

I thought the academies play up?

No, that’s not true, our local MLS Academy plays strict BY at this moment.