Trump - “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

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....we don't want poor brown/black people.. we want white people. That's essentially what he's saying. It's racist to say the least, and you just can't admit it.''



''What exactly is wrong with wanting white people?''


The silence of liberals is deafening

? What do you want liberals to say? That they don't want white people? They would never say that because that's not what they are saying. But Trump is saying that he wants white people more than poor black/brown people.

Oh, yes, sure. Trying to bash white Slovenia so hard and embracing black African immigrants speaks for itself. Liberals hate white people.

so when conservatives bash poor black/brown countries then it's just keeping it real and not about keeping those people out, but when liberals bash a poor white country, then it's "liberals don't want white people"?

Given the choice, would you prefer all your neighbors to be from Haiti or Norway?

If you say Norwegians you are a racist. If you say Haitians you are a liar. Which is it?

Haitians have far better cuisine and music. Definitely not lying about that. And they'd do anything to help you. So I don't understand your question.

The PP does not know any Haitians. Probably not any Norwegians either, although they appear to idolize them.

As somebody who has both Haitian and Norwegian friends, I can confirm the PP who asked this question about “all your neighbors” is an ass. I’m quite sure I’d prefer all the Haitians and all the Norwegians over PP. PP Ian just trying to stoke the flames of racism. It’s sad, really, but here is where Trump has led us.

So what would your preference be?

Haitians straight off the boat, or Norwegians straight off the boat?

With whom would you rather your children go to school with?

I think we all know which schools would have the higher great schools number...

Both the Haitians and Norwegians would have to attend private schools. They would be too advanced for schools ranked 10 on GS.

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'' Anonymous wrote:
....we don't want poor brown/black people.. we want white people. That's essentially what he's saying. It's racist to say the least, and you just can't admit it.''



''What exactly is wrong with wanting white people?''


The silence of liberals is deafening

? What do you want liberals to say? That they don't want white people? They would never say that because that's not what they are saying. But Trump is saying that he wants white people more than poor black/brown people.

Oh, yes, sure. Trying to bash white Slovenia so hard and embracing black African immigrants speaks for itself. Liberals hate white people.

so when conservatives bash poor black/brown countries then it's just keeping it real and not about keeping those people out, but when liberals bash a poor white country, then it's "liberals don't want white people"?

Given the choice, would you prefer all your neighbors to be from Haiti or Norway?

If you say Norwegians you are a racist. If you say Haitians you are a liar. Which is it?

Haitians have far better cuisine and music. Definitely not lying about that. And they'd do anything to help you. So I don't understand your question.

NP. Let's change this up a bit.

You can have Haitian immigrants only if each one is sponsored by a liberal - meaning they become your personal dependents until they are self-sufficient. You personally house them, clothe them, feed them, educate them, etc. Willing to adopt a Haitian/family?

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I would personally love to see this happen. Wouldn't it be interesting to see liberals actually put their money where their mouths are - literally.

I am a conservative and we have funded a series of people from Eritrea, Ethiopia, Haiti, Nepal, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and now Syria. It is a serious financial commitment and we are far from wealthy. Other friends and family help those in the US with drug addiction, literacy, and life training. We decided to help refugees, but urge everyone to help as you can

This is great PP. Our church is sponsoring a family this year and we are looking into how we can help. I’m actually surprised how anti-refugee some conservatives have become because so many churches have been on the forefront of helping refugees. It’s the Christian thing to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm more concerned about the fact that some loser in a private meeting ran to the press because someone said a bad word.

And now we have to listen to these eimps on CNN talk about this non news for the next week!

Is that your takeaway from the president’s unhelpful comments? Blame the messenger?

It's unhelpful to call something what it is? Some of the reason these countries are sh*tholes to begin with is due to corrupt, ineffective leadership. Otherwise, there would be no reason to bring in the refugees liberals want.

I'm sure all the Jews who perished in the Holocaust would agree with you.

That nice liberal Franklin Roosevelt refused the admittance of many Jews to the US before and during the holocaust.

And it’s a major black mark on his legacy. I challenge you to find any liberal who thought that was the right thing to do.

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'' Anonymous wrote:
....we don't want poor brown/black people.. we want white people. That's essentially what he's saying. It's racist to say the least, and you just can't admit it.''



''What exactly is wrong with wanting white people?''


The silence of liberals is deafening

? What do you want liberals to say? That they don't want white people? They would never say that because that's not what they are saying. But Trump is saying that he wants white people more than poor black/brown people.

Oh, yes, sure. Trying to bash white Slovenia so hard and embracing black African immigrants speaks for itself. Liberals hate white people.

so when conservatives bash poor black/brown countries then it's just keeping it real and not about keeping those people out, but when liberals bash a poor white country, then it's "liberals don't want white people"?

Given the choice, would you prefer all your neighbors to be from Haiti or Norway?

If you say Norwegians you are a racist. If you say Haitians you are a liar. Which is it?

Haitians have far better cuisine and music. Definitely not lying about that. And they'd do anything to help you. So I don't understand your question.

NP. Let's change this up a bit.

You can have Haitian immigrants only if each one is sponsored by a liberal - meaning they become your personal dependents until they are self-sufficient. You personally house them, clothe them, feed them, educate them, etc. Willing to adopt a Haitian/family?

+1
I would personally love to see this happen. Wouldn't it be interesting to see liberals actually put their money where their mouths are - literally.

I am a conservative and we have funded a series of people from Eritrea, Ethiopia, Haiti, Nepal, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and now Syria. It is a serious financial commitment and we are far from wealthy. Other friends and family help those in the US with drug addiction, literacy, and life training. We decided to help refugees, but urge everyone to help as you can

This is great PP. Our church is sponsoring a family this year and we are looking into how we can help. I’m actually surprised how anti-refugee some conservatives have become because so many churches have been on the forefront of helping refugees. It’s the Christian thing to do.

It stems from the early days of Christianity where anyone could take refuge in a church. Places of worship for many religions are helping refugees as well as those in need in the US. Secular liberals are less likely to be involved because they fear the religious aspect of helping others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm more concerned about the fact that some loser in a private meeting ran to the press because someone said a bad word.

And now we have to listen to these eimps on CNN talk about this non news for the next week!

Is that your takeaway from the president’s unhelpful comments? Blame the messenger?

It's unhelpful to call something what it is? Some of the reason these countries are sh*tholes to begin with is due to corrupt, ineffective leadership. Otherwise, there would be no reason to bring in the refugees liberals want.

I'm sure all the Jews who perished in the Holocaust would agree with you.

That nice liberal Franklin Roosevelt refused the admittance of many Jews to the US before and during the holocaust.

And it’s a major black mark on his legacy. I challenge you to find any liberal who thought that was the right thing to do.

Hindsight is lovely.

Of course, FDR's treatment of European Jews is one black mark, but his executive order to intern Americans of Japanese descent affected more of his countrymen. And then there was the treatment of Eleanor. Altogether, a pretty horrid fellow.

[Anonymous]

So it's OK to call those countries "shitholes" because their leadership is corrupt?

Well then it seems we have a problem, because OUR leadership, with Donald Trump is corrupt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
'' Anonymous wrote:
....we don't want poor brown/black people.. we want white people. That's essentially what he's saying. It's racist to say the least, and you just can't admit it.''



''What exactly is wrong with wanting white people?''


The silence of liberals is deafening

? What do you want liberals to say? That they don't want white people? They would never say that because that's not what they are saying. But Trump is saying that he wants white people more than poor black/brown people.

Oh, yes, sure. Trying to bash white Slovenia so hard and embracing black African immigrants speaks for itself. Liberals hate white people.

so when conservatives bash poor black/brown countries then it's just keeping it real and not about keeping those people out, but when liberals bash a poor white country, then it's "liberals don't want white people"?

Given the choice, would you prefer all your neighbors to be from Haiti or Norway?

If you say Norwegians you are a racist. If you say Haitians you are a liar. Which is it?

Haitians have far better cuisine and music. Definitely not lying about that. And they'd do anything to help you. So I don't understand your question.

NP. Let's change this up a bit.

You can have Haitian immigrants only if each one is sponsored by a liberal - meaning they become your personal dependents until they are self-sufficient. You personally house them, clothe them, feed them, educate them, etc. Willing to adopt a Haitian/family?

+1
I would personally love to see this happen. Wouldn't it be interesting to see liberals actually put their money where their mouths are - literally.

I am a conservative and we have funded a series of people from Eritrea, Ethiopia, Haiti, Nepal, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and now Syria. It is a serious financial commitment and we are far from wealthy. Other friends and family help those in the US with drug addiction, literacy, and life training. We decided to help refugees, but urge everyone to help as you can

This is great PP. Our church is sponsoring a family this year and we are looking into how we can help. I’m actually surprised how anti-refugee some conservatives have become because so many churches have been on the forefront of helping refugees. It’s the Christian thing to do.

+1 Refugees have come in all colors/creeds throughout history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm more concerned about the fact that some loser in a private meeting ran to the press because someone said a bad word.

And now we have to listen to these eimps on CNN talk about this non news for the next week!

Is that your takeaway from the president’s unhelpful comments? Blame the messenger?

It's unhelpful to call something what it is? Some of the reason these countries are sh*tholes to begin with is due to corrupt, ineffective leadership. Otherwise, there would be no reason to bring in the refugees liberals want.

I'm sure all the Jews who perished in the Holocaust would agree with you.

That nice liberal Franklin Roosevelt refused the admittance of many Jews to the US before and during the holocaust.

And it’s a major black mark on his legacy. I challenge you to find any liberal who thought that was the right thing to do.

Hindsight is lovely.

Of course, FDR's treatment of European Jews is one black mark, but his executive order to intern Americans of Japanese descent affected more of his countrymen. And then there was the treatment of Eleanor. Altogether, a pretty horrid fellow.

And the Republicans stepped up in opposition, right? Oh wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it's OK to call those countries "shitholes" because their leadership is corrupt?

Well then it seems we have a problem, because OUR leadership, with Donald Trump is corrupt.

Trust me...some in Norway think the US is a sh1thole with our gun violence and lack of affordable healthcare.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/norway-trump-s-comments-immigration-rejected-backhanded-praise-n837451

Norwegian satirist Eirik Bergesen posted:

Sorry, @realDonaldTrump, we Norwegians don’t want to emigrate to countries run like shitholes. https://t.co/avzn1Kfw8q
— Eirik Bergesen (@eirikbergesen) January 11, 2018

“Before we struck oil,” Velo said, “we were a country that Trump would describe as a shithole. We were a poor country.”

Nda Naa Kuorhor, 28, came to Norway from Ghana in 2015 to study the works of playwright Henrik Ibsen at the University of Oslo on a full scholarship. Working part-time as a server at a downtown hotel café, she said: “It’s cool living here.”... “I prefer Norway because it’s peaceful,” she said. “I hear things about the United States, like it’s not safe.

Sebastian Reed, an amiable 33-year old graphic designer, agreed with the sentiment. “I definitely don’t want to go to the U.S.," “I would never live in a country with him as a president, pretty much.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it's OK to call those countries "shitholes" because their leadership is corrupt?

Well then it seems we have a problem, because OUR leadership, with Donald Trump is corrupt.

Our country is starting the be regarded as a shithole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
'' Anonymous wrote:
....we don't want poor brown/black people.. we want white people. That's essentially what he's saying. It's racist to say the least, and you just can't admit it.''



''What exactly is wrong with wanting white people?''


The silence of liberals is deafening

? What do you want liberals to say? That they don't want white people? They would never say that because that's not what they are saying. But Trump is saying that he wants white people more than poor black/brown people.

Oh, yes, sure. Trying to bash white Slovenia so hard and embracing black African immigrants speaks for itself. Liberals hate white people.

so when conservatives bash poor black/brown countries then it's just keeping it real and not about keeping those people out, but when liberals bash a poor white country, then it's "liberals don't want white people"?

Given the choice, would you prefer all your neighbors to be from Haiti or Norway?

If you say Norwegians you are a racist. If you say Haitians you are a liar. Which is it?

Haitians have far better cuisine and music. Definitely not lying about that. And they'd do anything to help you. So I don't understand your question.

NP. Let's change this up a bit.

You can have Haitian immigrants only if each one is sponsored by a liberal - meaning they become your personal dependents until they are self-sufficient. You personally house them, clothe them, feed them, educate them, etc. Willing to adopt a Haitian/family?

+1
I would personally love to see this happen. Wouldn't it be interesting to see liberals actually put their money where their mouths are - literally.

I am a conservative and we have funded a series of people from Eritrea, Ethiopia, Haiti, Nepal, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and now Syria. It is a serious financial commitment and we are far from wealthy. Other friends and family help those in the US with drug addiction, literacy, and life training. We decided to help refugees, but urge everyone to help as you can

This is great PP. Our church is sponsoring a family this year and we are looking into how we can help. I’m actually surprised how anti-refugee some conservatives have become because so many churches have been on the forefront of helping refugees. It’s the Christian thing to do.

It stems from the early days of Christianity where anyone could take refuge in a church. Places of worship for many religions are helping refugees as well as those in need in the US. Secular liberals are less likely to be involved because they fear the religious aspect of helping others.

Yet, it's the liberals who are more open to allowing in more refugees than the conservatives, so-called "party of Christian values".

Liberals' actions in helping the lost, poor and down trodden seem to be more in line with Christ's teachings than conservative "all talk no action" policies.

--signed a Christian and former R

[Anonymous]

North Korea: Sh!thole
South Korea: Not a Sh!thole

Same people.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
'' Anonymous wrote:
....we don't want poor brown/black people.. we want white people. That's essentially what he's saying. It's racist to say the least, and you just can't admit it.''



''What exactly is wrong with wanting white people?''


The silence of liberals is deafening

? What do you want liberals to say? That they don't want white people? They would never say that because that's not what they are saying. But Trump is saying that he wants white people more than poor black/brown people.

Oh, yes, sure. Trying to bash white Slovenia so hard and embracing black African immigrants speaks for itself. Liberals hate white people.

so when conservatives bash poor black/brown countries then it's just keeping it real and not about keeping those people out, but when liberals bash a poor white country, then it's "liberals don't want white people"?

Given the choice, would you prefer all your neighbors to be from Haiti or Norway?

If you say Norwegians you are a racist. If you say Haitians you are a liar. Which is it?

Haitians have far better cuisine and music. Definitely not lying about that. And they'd do anything to help you. So I don't understand your question.

NP. Let's change this up a bit.

You can have Haitian immigrants only if each one is sponsored by a liberal - meaning they become your personal dependents until they are self-sufficient. You personally house them, clothe them, feed them, educate them, etc. Willing to adopt a Haitian/family?

+1
I would personally love to see this happen. Wouldn't it be interesting to see liberals actually put their money where their mouths are - literally.

I am a conservative and we have funded a series of people from Eritrea, Ethiopia, Haiti, Nepal, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and now Syria. It is a serious financial commitment and we are far from wealthy. Other friends and family help those in the US with drug addiction, literacy, and life training. We decided to help refugees, but urge everyone to help as you can

You are a good human being and I respect what you have done for others. Thank you from the bottom of my liberal heart.

[Anonymous]

I'm a little confused about how people claim we can't help refugees in this country because we have enough poor people here.

First off, when the US was accepting refugees from war torn Europe, the US wasn't exactly doing well economically then either.
Secondly, Trumpsters keep saying our economy is great thanks to Trump - low unemployment, rising stock market, etc... but still we are not rich enough to help refugees.
Third, if we wait till we are "rich" enough, and there are no poor Americans, then we would *never* accept any refugees because we are not a socialist country, and therefore, we will *always* have poor people. And then we wouldn't have people like one of the founders of Google (who came here as a refugee) and other great people in the US who came as refugees.

I'm willing to bet that some of these same people who criticize these *sh1tholes* are descendants of people who came here as refugees from other sh1thole countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused about how people claim we can't help refugees in this country because we have enough poor people here.

First off, when the US was accepting refugees from war torn Europe, the US wasn't exactly doing well economically then either.
Secondly, Trumpsters keep saying our economy is great thanks to Trump - low unemployment, rising stock market, etc... but still we are not rich enough to help refugees.
Third, if we wait till we are "rich" enough, and there are no poor Americans, then we would *never* accept any refugees because we are not a socialist country, and therefore, we will *always* have poor people. And then we wouldn't have people like one of the founders of Google (who came here as a refugee) and other great people in the US who came as refugees.

I'm willing to bet that some of these same people who criticize these *sh1tholes* are descendants of people who came here as refugees from other sh1thole countries.

Most of them within the last three generations, yes.

That's the part I get the least. Is it that the desperate are too practical for empathy? If all you've experienced has been the stick, do you try to keep all of the carrots in a bag for yourself?

You know what middle America needs? Manifest destiny: it needs people to move back into these dying towns and be doctors and teachers and bus drivers and shopkeepers. It needs goods and services and consumers. Hellhole, WV and Yellow Cake, OH aren't going to magically improve if we kick immigrants out. They might, if people seeking the American dream moved there because they could afford to buy a house and sink roots into the community.