Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

No, no and no and no. Wrong. He had a permit. Minnesota allows open carry. He was exercising his right to peaceful protest and open carry.

STOP RATIONALIZING COLD BLOODED MURDER BY THUGS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

Then why do folks like Proud Boys bring their guns for protests all the time?

Can you imagine the outcry if the Capital police had mown down all the insurrectionists carrying weapons on J6?

These hypocrites are insufferable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that MN has extremely low levels of ICE activity (as compared with states like CA, AZ, TX, FL) yet so very many issues. Protestors, injuries, incidents etc. Why??

I live in a very blue area (all Democratic gov, US Senators, Mayor, local government etc) that is majority brown, 30min from the Mexican border, see border patrol and/or ICE in town daily and we have absolutely NONE of these issues. No protestors (beyond a few people quietly holding signs), no major news stories, no dramas, property damage, people interfering or getting hurt.

What is the deal with Minnesota????

They are purposely creating a show in Minnesota

What they have done is create a training ground, and it's not for ICE.

It's for regular citizens. Not to shoot at ICE, because that hasn't happened, and not to storm buildings, because that hasn't happen there.

It's showed the rest of the country what hundreds of thousands of people walking in protest looks like.

It's prompted discussions about "what would you do" and spread photos showing the exact parallels with Nazi Germany.

You better bet that moving into Philadelphia with this energy, or Denver, or Boston, or Albuquerque, or even Atlanta is not going to get you a dozen people on a street corner somewhere. They just are digging their own hole deeper and deeper with this.

Thanks, Minnesota. I wish the price wasn't so high, but thanks.

Agree with all of this, just adding that Minnesota owes a lot to Chicago where they developed a lot of these methods, and ICE eventually backed off of the giant show they were pushing there.

With each subsequent invasion, we learn more about how to resist these thugs. They will bully us as individuals, but they can't do anything when we show up in these numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

Then maybe put your glasses on the the next time you watch the video so you can see how wrong you are.

Pretti was immobilized and face down on the ground when ICE shot him 10 times. That’s an extrajudicial execution. It’s unconstitutional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

It is unbelievably nauseating to me how many of our fellow citizens are outing themselves as deplorable, psychos who cheer murder and mayhem as long as it is happening to libs or POC. Just disgusting and horrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

Then why do folks like Proud Boys bring their guns for protests all the time?

Can you imagine the outcry if the Capital police had mown down all the insurrectionists carrying weapons on J6?

These hypocrites are insufferable.

Heck, Trump pardoned the guy who parked his truck full of moltov cocktails and other weapons/ammo not far from the Capitol building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

If he didn't have a gun, they would have found another excuse to kill him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

Then maybe put your glasses on the the next time you watch the video so you can see how wrong you are.

Pretti was immobilized and face down on the ground when ICE shot him 10 times. That’s an extrajudicial execution. It’s unconstitutional.

and lets not forget they pepper sprayed him, so he probably couldn't see or breathe either...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

Then why do folks like Proud Boys bring their guns for protests all the time?

It's funny to watch you get angered by the idea of armed Proud Boys, but contort yourself to insist it was NBD for Pretti to be carrying a Sig and 40 rounds of ammo. You know and I know it.

[Anonymous]

There should be bipartisan agreement that Noem, DHS and the Trump admin in general should not have jumped to conclusions and instead, encouraged waiting for facts.

It is similar to how Trump blamed DEI for the airplane/helicopter crash at Reagan National literally when they were still pulling bodies from the water.

Trump and his cabinet are horrific leaders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

Then why do folks like Proud Boys bring their guns for protests all the time?

It's funny to watch you get angered by the idea of armed Proud Boys, but contort yourself to insist it was NBD for Pretti to be carrying a Sig and 40 rounds of ammo. You know and I know it.

No you fricking dipshit. We lay your hypocrisy BARE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

Then why do folks like Proud Boys bring their guns for protests all the time?

It's funny to watch you get angered by the idea of armed Proud Boys, but contort yourself to insist it was NBD for Pretti to be carrying a Sig and 40 rounds of ammo. You know and I know it.

I am not angered by Proud boys, did I say that? No. They do actually brandish their weapons though. The ICU RN did not even touch his weapon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shot in the back
and you're to blame
You give ICE a bad name

Now that is a great poster and earworm!

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

There isn't actually any proof that the deceased's gun discharged. That is a right wing theory to try to attempt to cover for a truly deplorable action and result.

I'm not subscribing to any right wing theorys, OK? I'm sharing my conclusion from watching the video 50 times. I'm open to being wrong, but the fact remains is he brought a pistol and 40 rounds of ammo to a 'peaceful' protest. It's stupid decision even if he was entitled to do it. If he didn't have that gun on him he'd be alive today. Dont act surprised if you get burnt playing with fire. It's simple, really.

Then why do folks like Proud Boys bring their guns for protests all the time?

It's funny to watch you get angered by the idea of armed Proud Boys, but contort yourself to insist it was NBD for Pretti to be carrying an Sig and 40 rounds of ammo. You know and I know it.

Is there even any evidence that he brought more ammo with him? We only saw them take the gun.