Whataboutism. We are talking about those illegally present NOW. Both Melania and Elon are citizens. |
Then why is ICE terrorizing and deporting people who are here legally and going through the process legally? Square the circle, please and make it make sense. Hanging out at courthouses and nabbing people who are on their way in to meet with their immigration officers or judges is not what you are describing. And certainly ICE detaining natural born Americans is not even legal. Where is the accountability there? |
They are citizens now but they weren’t always. The point is that the wealthy or influential can get away with breaking visa rules, but it only bothers MAGA when a poor brown person does it. How do you feel about Trump employing undocumented workers for years to build or staff his properties? Do you not see the hypocrisy? |
The people you described have entered illegally or are present illegally. Why in the hell should we reward that behavior? ICE is not detaining Americans. If an American is part of an immigration sweep they are immediately allowed to go about their business once they identify their status. Unless of course they were impeding the arrest of illegal aliens ir harboring an illegal alien. |
Just knock off the race crap. People from all over the damn world entered illegally under Joe Biden. They all need to go. I don’t care about their damn skin color. |
Why are we only seeing videos of brown people being rounded up? You may not care about skin color, but I can assure you that Trump and Miller do. The optics are very important to them. |
Just because you need something to happen doesn't mean that it will. ICE has been instructed to back off enforcement at agriculture, hotels, and restaurants. This is the beginning of TACO policy implementation. |
You are correct. And here is text from the official memo that outlines who ICE agents shouldn’t be targeting. Note that agents have been told to back off arresting noncriminal undocumented migrants. Apparently the Maga on this thread haven’t kept up with the news. They don’t seem to realize that Trump has folded once again.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/us/politics/trump-ice-raids-farms-hotels.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare |
You don’t see this as a problem? You’re going about your daily business, get detained in a sweep, and have to prove your status? What if you get randomly stopped and in order to be allowed to leave have to prove that you don’t have any outstanding warrants, have to pass an illegal drug analysis test, don’t have drugs in your car… |
That’s an example of being detained. |
Nope. Facts matter. If someone presents themselves seeking asylum and are "in the system" they are not illegal, they are awaiting status. You really need to learn what the actual law is before spouting off "they are all illegal" - they aren't. And you didn't address the native born Americans, the green card holders and other visa holders who are here legally, who are also being rolled up. |
But the ones being rolled by ICE happen to be brown. What is your point? |
They also have been told not to raid in red states. Trump has effectively given all illegals permanent legal status! The occupation of Los Angeles by DHS and US marines is to punish and terrorize the US citizens of California and replace every democrat elected official. This is what DHS Noem said as she ordered the arrest of the senior US senator in California. I am very surprised he is still alive. |
Buulsh#t Trump just said it is not. |
PP here - and no. It's a fact that plainclothes officers have snatched people here legally that were not charged, much less convicted, of any crime and have initiated deportation proceedings against them: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/what-we-know-about-the-case-of-the-tufts-university-student-detained-by-ice/3669105/ They have also injured innocent bystanders: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuelan-man-tackled-new-hampshire-courthouse-texas-ice/ |