U.S. intel contradicts Trump’s justification for mass deportations

[Anonymous]

MAGA heads are going to explode on this forum with the suggestion that the Venezuelan government is not directing an invasion of the US by Tren de Aragua as claimed by Donald J. Trump. I doubt they will see this information anywhere else.

I hope one of the cases that are winding their way through courts require the federal government to provide actual evidence about the nature of this and other gangs and whether their activities constitute an “invasion.” If you’re going to declare an “alien invasion“ based on an act the dates to the 1700s, designate anyone from that group a “terrorist,” abduct and ship people you claim belong to this terrorist group to a jail in a foreign country without giving them the opportunity to defend themselves, then you better bring receipts.

I’ve gifted the article.
https://wapo.st/4ipRoOd

Some key points:
—The National Intelligence Council, drawing on the acumen of the United States’ 18 intelligence agencies, determined in a secret assessment early this month that the Venezuelan government is not directing an invasion of the United States by the prison gang Tren de Aragua, a judgment that contradicts President Donald Trump’s public statements, according to people familiar with the matter.

— Trump invoked the Enemy Aliens Act act in mid-March, proclaiming without evidence that Tren de Aragua is perpetrating an “invasion” of the United States “at the direction” of the regime of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.

— from an expert: this
“The idea that Maduro is directing Tren de Aragua members and sending criminals to infiltrate the United States is ludicrous. Tren de Aragua has become more like a brand that any group of carjackers from Miami down to Argentina can invoke to further their criminal activity, but there’s really no clear sense of hierarchy,” he said. “And the reality is that Tren de Aragua has not always gotten along with the Maduro government: We saw just a few years ago, the military in 2023, stormed a prison that Tren de Aragua controlled and allegedly carried out extrajudicial executions.”

[Anonymous]

The New York Times first broke the story in March.

Intelligence Assessment Said to Contradict Trump on Venezuelan Gang
To invoke wartime deportation powers, President Trump asserted that Venezuela’s government controls a gang. U.S. intelligence analysts think that is not true.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/20/us/politics/intelligence-trump-venezuelan-gang-alien-enemies.html

[Anonymous]

Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

Did you read the article? The assessment is a compilation of data from multiple intelligence sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

Russia was helping Trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

Russia was helping Trump

Truth. It might not have fit the legal definition of collusion, but Russia pulled out all the stops to help get Trump elected, and Trump welcomed that help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

You’re right, we should hear what Putin has to say before we trust our own intelligence network.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAGA heads are going to explode on this forum with the suggestion that the Venezuelan government is not directing an invasion of the US by Tren de Aragua as claimed by Donald J. Trump. I doubt they will see this information anywhere else.

I hope one of the cases that are winding their way through courts require the federal government to provide actual evidence about the nature of this and other gangs and whether their activities constitute an “invasion.” If you’re going to declare an “alien invasion“ based on an act the dates to the 1700s, designate anyone from that group a “terrorist,” abduct and ship people you claim belong to this terrorist group to a jail in a foreign country without giving them the opportunity to defend themselves, then you better bring receipts.

I’ve gifted the article.
https://wapo.st/4ipRoOd

Some key points:
—The National Intelligence Council, drawing on the acumen of the United States’ 18 intelligence agencies, determined in a secret assessment early this month that the Venezuelan government is not directing an invasion of the United States by the prison gang Tren de Aragua, a judgment that contradicts President Donald Trump’s public statements, according to people familiar with the matter.

— Trump invoked the Enemy Aliens Act act in mid-March, proclaiming without evidence that Tren de Aragua is perpetrating an “invasion” of the United States “at the direction” of the regime of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.

— from an expert: this
“The idea that Maduro is directing Tren de Aragua members and sending criminals to infiltrate the United States is ludicrous. Tren de Aragua has become more like a brand that any group of carjackers from Miami down to Argentina can invoke to further their criminal activity, but there’s really no clear sense of hierarchy,” he said. “And the reality is that Tren de Aragua has not always gotten along with the Maduro government: We saw just a few years ago, the military in 2023, stormed a prison that Tren de Aragua controlled and allegedly carried out extrajudicial executions.”

The Tren de Aragua "invasion" is starting to sound like George Bush's mythical WMDs that were the excuse for the invasion of Iraq.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

Did you read the article? The assessment is a compilation of data from multiple intelligence sources.

They don't want to read it. Then they would have to admit that they and Trump and all their BS "media" sources are W-R-O-N-G. They'll just make up more stuff to convince themselves that Trumps lies are true. It's pathetic and dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

Russia was helping Trump

Truth. It might not have fit the legal definition of collusion, but Russia pulled out all the stops to help get Trump elected, and Trump welcomed that help.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Whatever your agencies say to be saying, it seems that the current powers that be don't want more immigration at the moment. Furthermore, it appears that the majority of the US citizens agree.

Feel free to explore further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

Hi Karoline! Why are you trolling DCUM and not spending Good Friday with your family?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

Curious your stance on why Russia was the one country in the world that Trump left off on his tariffs. Why do they get that special treatment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

So the GOP senate intel report that said the same was fake news too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Translation- anti-Trump resistance is producing fake analysis and leaking to the media.

In fact, we saw this in the first Trump term with an Intelligence Community Assessment that included the Steele Dossier saying Russia was helping Trump, all leaked to the media.

Hi Karoline! Why are you trolling DCUM and not spending Good Friday with your family?

I actually think there is at least one person in the admin that comments on here in their free time.