Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Going on podcasts to spill the sad desolation of your 26 year old marriage with strangers to sell books is next level messy. Hard pass. Pure trash.

[Anonymous]

25 years ago, a week after high school graduation, we watched our 18 year old childhood girlfriend marry our twenty-five year old Methodist Church Youth Minister. 👀😭 It was weird but 100% blessed by their parents.

The couple is still together. She is 100%a traditional, homeschooling wife who loved Ruby Franke. 😬

[Anonymous]

Married at 21. Not “babies”. Twenty eight years later, four kids in tow, all now adults doing well, still together as a couple.
We weren’t victims, Jen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Says she thinks the current youth culture has a healthier sexual ethos than the one she was raised in (...but of course she didn't speak to how the current culture of hook-ups, body counts, etc. is absolutely just as damaging, if not more. She just painted her experience as bad and anything more liberating as good or healthy.

Well now you’re just lying to prove your point.

According to a 2015 study, the average number of lifetime sexual partners for millennials was lower (8.26) than for baby boomers (11.68) when they were the same age. Another analysis showed the number of lifetime partners peaking with Generation X and then declining for millennials.

Reduced casual sex: Casual sex has also decreased among young adults. A Rutgers University study analyzing data from 2007 to 2017 found that the percentage of 18- to 23-year-olds having casual sex in the past month dropped for both men and women.

Do you have any evidence to support your claim of “hook-ups and body counts?” Because I have lots to support that you are wrong. I will acknowledge that may be the behavior of people on your social circles but is not the trend among Americans.

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/why-are-young-adults-having-less-casual-sex#:~:text=The%2520study%252C%2520published%2520in%2520the,of%2520delayed%2520transition%2520into%2520adulthood.%E2%80%9D

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:.
- blamed purity culture for how she hated her body, etc. Says she thinks the current youth culture has a healthier sexual ethos than the one she was raised in (...but of course she didn't speak to how the current culture of hook-ups, body counts, etc. is absolutely just as damaging, if not more. She just painted her experience as bad and anything more liberating as good or healthy.

More evidence you are wrong. https://isr.umich.edu/news-events/news-releases/american-young-adults-report-having-fewer-sexual-partners-higher-rates-of-abstention/#:~:text=American%20young%20adults%20report%20having,abstention%20%7C%20Institute%20for%20Social%20Research

[Anonymous]

All the non-stop complaining about purity culture, misogyny, etc. has just become mindless cliches of the deconstruction, exvangelical, call-it-whatever-you-want movement of people who desperately want to be victims but who have largely lived comfortable, privileged lives. It's both vapid and gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the non-stop complaining about purity culture, misogyny, etc. has just become mindless cliches of the deconstruction, exvangelical, call-it-whatever-you-want movement of people who desperately want to be victims but who have largely lived comfortable, privileged lives. It's both vapid and gross.

Amen. The very same people that were preaching the purity culture not that long ago.

Basically, they will exalt whatever structure is benefiting them. Jen's church community was "so dear" for so many years. Years that she seemed to not notice did not include many people, were being excluded for reasons like being divorced, still being single, having very high need children, being gay, whatever.

Since that time, there have been many memoirs written by people that needed (really) to leave their cult like religious group and deconstruct. The Netlfix series of the Orthodox Jewish woman for example. The ladies that had to break out of the fringe group in the Morman church with multiple ACTUAL child brides, no education, and no choices. People's whose patriarchal religions truly isolated them instead of sending them on speaking engagements around the country and writing best selling self help groups and blogs that reached millions. Anyway, these stories included brainwashing, child brides, oppression, expectation to get married, etc. They had to escape and rebuilt, and these stories - both Netflix and a few paperbacks I've read, sold very well, and garnered sympathy. And so Jen's story is also rewritten, kind of a very weird appropriation.