ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"I don't know the birthdays of every kid but from what I have seen at our very big club, there are very few Q4s on any NL team (or at least the two my kids play on). "

I think we are agreeing on this point. There aren't that many Q4s on any of the NL teams. Which is why you can GENERALLY (not absolutely) say at the club level if you are a Q4 NL player you will LIKELY easily have a spot on the younger NL team in 2026. Lets say the older team has 4 players that are moving down, the team below has 3 that are moving down. It's not 1:1 but no one is getting cut because of it. There are roster size changes moving from 7V7, 9V9, 11V11. In 2026 we'll lose 3, gain 4, and because of the increase in roster size, we'll still have spots open. I can gurantee you there is not going to be this crazy mass replacement of NL teams with RL players. At the PRE-ECNL level, I have no doubt that there will be 1-3 Q4 RL players that move to the NL team the age group below, they are the same players that would would make their current age NL team as the roster size expands, and would need to be the Top players on their current RL team. 2nd team players who are talented and skilled always move up to the first team as the roster size increases and sometimes based on talent beating out the bottom level of current team. It's crazy to think that all of the sudden coaches of existing NL teams who are beating the older RL teams will be making any major changes.

Are people thinking the RL player that lacked the skill and IQ to be NL in '25 is all of a sudden going to be Pulisic or Wambach in '26 because of age cutoff shift?

Are people thinking that the Q1 or Q2 MLSN or ECNL player the lacked the skill and IQ but was bigger and faster because of age is all of a sudden going to be not as good relative to the new older kids because of the age cutoff shift? Um, yes. And somebody has to replace them.

Q4 players will have to worry about teams and coaches stuck in player lock though so switching teams could be massive next year.

MLSN is BY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I don't know the birthdays of every kid but from what I have seen at our very big club, there are very few Q4s on any NL team (or at least the two my kids play on). "

I think we are agreeing on this point. There aren't that many Q4s on any of the NL teams. Which is why you can GENERALLY (not absolutely) say at the club level if you are a Q4 NL player you will LIKELY easily have a spot on the younger NL team in 2026. Lets say the older team has 4 players that are moving down, the team below has 3 that are moving down. It's not 1:1 but no one is getting cut because of it. There are roster size changes moving from 7V7, 9V9, 11V11. In 2026 we'll lose 3, gain 4, and because of the increase in roster size, we'll still have spots open. I can gurantee you there is not going to be this crazy mass replacement of NL teams with RL players. At the PRE-ECNL level, I have no doubt that there will be 1-3 Q4 RL players that move to the NL team the age group below, they are the same players that would would make their current age NL team as the roster size expands, and would need to be the Top players on their current RL team. 2nd team players who are talented and skilled always move up to the first team as the roster size increases and sometimes based on talent beating out the bottom level of current team. It's crazy to think that all of the sudden coaches of existing NL teams who are beating the older RL teams will be making any major changes.

Are people thinking the RL player that lacked the skill and IQ to be NL in '25 is all of a sudden going to be Pulisic or Wambach in '26 because of age cutoff shift?

Are people thinking that the Q1 or Q2 MLSN or ECNL player the lacked the skill and IQ but was bigger and faster because of age is all of a sudden going to be not as good relative to the new older kids because of the age cutoff shift? Um, yes. And somebody has to replace them.

Q4 players will have to worry about teams and coaches stuck in player lock though so switching teams could be massive next year.

MLSN is BY

As of now....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now we are between the bartering and acceptance phase, it is happening but won't be a big deal because RAE doesn't exist. Is there anything we can do to help you guys through this process?

lol would the bartering phase look like this ...US Soccer has to make a change this upcoming season and not wait until 2026...clubs need to start to think about reorganizing this year and picking q4 kids... ECNL will come out with an announcement and do their own thing in 2025.

Good luck to your Q4 2nd team kid at tryouts in 2026! They will be the oldest so certainly make the NL team...that's def how it works.

[Anonymous]

That’s a great assessment of what I’ve been reading here as of late. Is “top secret announcement” guy a Q4 RL dad hoping to get on NL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now we are between the bartering and acceptance phase, it is happening but won't be a big deal because RAE doesn't exist. Is there anything we can do to help you guys through this process?

lol would the bartering phase look like this ...US Soccer has to make a change this upcoming season and not wait until 2026...clubs need to start to think about reorganizing this year and picking q4 kids... ECNL will come out with an announcement and do their own thing in 2025.

Good luck to your Q4 2nd team kid at tryouts in 2026! They will be the oldest so certainly make the NL team...that's def how it works.

I love it💯

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now we are between the bartering and acceptance phase, it is happening but won't be a big deal because RAE doesn't exist. Is there anything we can do to help you guys through this process?

lol would the bartering phase look like this ...US Soccer has to make a change this upcoming season and not wait until 2026...clubs need to start to think about reorganizing this year and picking q4 kids... ECNL will come out with an announcement and do their own thing in 2025.

Good luck to your Q4 2nd team kid at tryouts in 2026! They will be the oldest so certainly make the NL team...that's def how it works.

Remember folks this is an anonymous message board! Check out MLSN newest post on Instagram, they will rank their U-13/14's based on quality of play, pretty cool program that every club/league should take part in eventually. Looks like the Q4's who have developed tactically because of their lack of size will be advantaged under this new ranking system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now we are between the bartering and acceptance phase, it is happening but won't be a big deal because RAE doesn't exist. Is there anything we can do to help you guys through this process?

lol would the bartering phase look like this ...US Soccer has to make a change this upcoming season and not wait until 2026...clubs need to start to think about reorganizing this year and picking q4 kids... ECNL will come out with an announcement and do their own thing in 2025.

Good luck to your Q4 2nd team kid at tryouts in 2026! They will be the oldest so certainly make the NL team...that's def how it works.

If oldest equalled better or best, then no one would play up and Q3/Q4 wouldn't see daylight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now we are between the bartering and acceptance phase, it is happening but won't be a big deal because RAE doesn't exist. Is there anything we can do to help you guys through this process?

lol would the bartering phase look like this ...US Soccer has to make a change this upcoming season and not wait until 2026...clubs need to start to think about reorganizing this year and picking q4 kids... ECNL will come out with an announcement and do their own thing in 2025.

Good luck to your Q4 2nd team kid at tryouts in 2026! They will be the oldest so certainly make the NL team...that's def how it works.

Remember folks this is an anonymous message board! Check out MLSN newest post on Instagram, they will rank their U-13/14's based on quality of play, pretty cool program that every club/league should take part in eventually. Looks like the Q4's who have developed tactically because of their lack of size will be advantaged under this new ranking system.

They are running circles around ECNL.... Wo...

Turning AI loose on Ameircan youthh soccer is going to make some Karens big mad... The tape dont lie.

[Anonymous]

The tape don’t lie?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now we are between the bartering and acceptance phase, it is happening but won't be a big deal because RAE doesn't exist. Is there anything we can do to help you guys through this process?

lol would the bartering phase look like this ...US Soccer has to make a change this upcoming season and not wait until 2026...clubs need to start to think about reorganizing this year and picking q4 kids... ECNL will come out with an announcement and do their own thing in 2025.

Good luck to your Q4 2nd team kid at tryouts in 2026! They will be the oldest so certainly make the NL team...that's def how it works.

Remember folks this is an anonymous message board! Check out MLSN newest post on Instagram, they will rank their U-13/14's based on quality of play, pretty cool program that every club/league should take part in eventually. Looks like the Q4's who have developed tactically because of their lack of size will be advantaged under this new ranking system.

They are running circles around ECNL.... Wo...

Turning AI loose on Ameircan youthh soccer is going to make some Karens big mad... The tape dont lie.

Dribbles Lost
Failed Passes
Long Boot Turnover

Would be fun to see

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now we are between the bartering and acceptance phase, it is happening but won't be a big deal because RAE doesn't exist. Is there anything we can do to help you guys through this process?

lol would the bartering phase look like this ...US Soccer has to make a change this upcoming season and not wait until 2026...clubs need to start to think about reorganizing this year and picking q4 kids... ECNL will come out with an announcement and do their own thing in 2025.

Good luck to your Q4 2nd team kid at tryouts in 2026! They will be the oldest so certainly make the NL team...that's def how it works.

Remember folks this is an anonymous message board! Check out MLSN newest post on Instagram, they will rank their U-13/14's based on quality of play, pretty cool program that every club/league should take part in eventually. Looks like the Q4's who have developed tactically because of their lack of size will be advantaged under this new ranking system.

They are running circles around ECNL.... Wo...

Turning AI loose on Ameircan youthh soccer is going to make some Karens big mad... The tape dont lie.

Dribbles Lost
Failed Passes
Long Boot Turnover

Would be fun to see

Karen will hate it. bad decisions will be on blast.

[Anonymous]

we have some kids who dont complete 5% of their passes.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:we have some kids who dont complete 5% of their passes.....

No worries, as long as they pay the coach for side lessons, they will get playing time. Seen it so so often.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part of all these amateur RAE professors is that everyone keeps missing the part that the studies focus on actual elite athletes and top level team selections

Not pay-to-play subpar players and teams

The studies are mainly about very good late developers with potential who get left off rosters of elite teams for good early bloomers with better current physicality performance and maturation.

It's not about every kick and run Mary, Tom and Jane being 1st or 4th quarter BY

RAE is just a theory that helps explain the reality, tho -- all the stats showing top teams tend to skew toward the oldest kids. This very true dynamic -- regardless of cause -- will provide lots of opportunity not typically present during this switch.

Then it will shift the effect from Q1 to Q3 as Q3 will become the new Q1 for that specific league

However, SY Q1 will still be Q3 against BY/Calendar Q1s in the real world

It's not based on quarters, tho. It's Sept-Q4 ... That's why you have all the hand-wringing from the Aug b-day parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we have some kids who dont complete 5% of their passes.....

No worries, as long as they pay the coach for side lessons, they will get playing time. Seen it so so often.

With AI in the mix everyone will know when the fix is in......

Much better players in the long run.