APS middle school boundary process

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Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

On the surface, yes, except you sound awfully angry about it. If you're living your ideals, why do you want other people's children to be placed on buses so that they can make your school less diverse for your kids?

Nope. Just embarrassed and assumed of our community.

So let me get this straight. You tout your embracing of diversity; call others racist because they might simply value being close to school, but you're the one who rants and raves about being owed more affluent, white, you name it, people in your children's school to make it less diverse?

Nope. My child’s school is pretty perfect as it is, thanks.
But walking to school is a nice to have.
Balanced demographics is a need.

You are so full of it. Hoffman Boston is well over your critical 45% FARMS rate, so it's far from perfect by your own admission. Don't be disingenuous, you're not good at hiding it.

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Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

You are such a white savior. You can't balance the schools just by busing affluent white kids into underperforming schools, you also need to bus some low income minority students to fill the seats those white kids left empty. Those minority families, the ones you think you're helping? They don't want your kind of help. They don't want their kids bused further away, in no small part because it will make their lives that much harder. But oh, you know better, you're so enlightened with your decision to buy "under" you to lift up the poor brown and black kids by virtue of your mere presence in the school. Their parents just aren't smart enough to know what's best for their own children, thank god they have you in the community to show them the way.

Do you even hear how awful you sound?

Someone sounds awful here, but it isn’t me.
I’m very sad for you and your children. I wish you peace.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

On the surface, yes, except you sound awfully angry about it. If you're living your ideals, why do you want other people's children to be placed on buses so that they can make your school less diverse for your kids?

Nope. Just embarrassed and assumed of our community.

So let me get this straight. You tout your embracing of diversity; call others racist because they might simply value being close to school, but you're the one who rants and raves about being owed more affluent, white, you name it, people in your children's school to make it less diverse?

Nope. My child’s school is pretty perfect as it is, thanks.
But walking to school is a nice to have.
Balanced demographics is a need.

You are so full of it. Hoffman Boston is well over your critical 45% FARMS rate, so it's far from perfect by your own admission. Don't be disingenuous, you're not good at hiding it.

Isn’t it wonderful. We could aim for 45 and still only land somewhere in the 50’s and still see better student performance.

[Anonymous]

Hoffman Boston is an excellent school 8 or 9 on Great schools. I feel like there is one crazy Swanson poster about to lose her mind that can’t understand some people are actually happy in S Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hoffman Boston is an excellent school 8 or 9 on Great schools. I feel like there is one crazy Swanson poster about to lose her mind that can’t understand some people are actually happy in S Arlington.

I'm not the person you're referring to, we're not a Swanson family. I have no issue with people liking South Arlington, nor do I judge it as lacking. But it's a special kind of racist to choose to move into a diverse neighborhood and then want to bus some of the minority kids out of the local schools to "improve" them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

You are such a white savior. You can't balance the schools just by busing affluent white kids into underperforming schools, you also need to bus some low income minority students to fill the seats those white kids left empty. Those minority families, the ones you think you're helping? They don't want your kind of help. They don't want their kids bused further away, in no small part because it will make their lives that much harder. But oh, you know better, you're so enlightened with your decision to buy "under" you to lift up the poor brown and black kids by virtue of your mere presence in the school. Their parents just aren't smart enough to know what's best for their own children, thank god they have you in the community to show them the way.

Do you even hear how awful you sound?

Someone sounds awful here, but it isn’t me.
I’m very sad for you and your children. I wish you peace.

My brown kids don't need your pity. You are gross.

[Anonymous]

What needs to happen in Arlington is all the future apartments be built in the north. Plain and simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What needs to happen in Arlington is all the future apartments be built in the north. Plain and simple.

Good luck finding the land.

[Anonymous]

I never realized until this thread that Arlington has more in common with Bosnia in the 1990s than Bethesda in 2017.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I never realized until this thread that Arlington has more in common with Bosnia in the 1990s than Bethesda in 2017.

You must have done really poorly in history at school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never realized until this thread that Arlington has more in common with Bosnia in the 1990s than Bethesda in 2017.

You must have done really poorly in history at school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War

And North Arlington is the Serbs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hoffman Boston is an excellent school 8 or 9 on Great schools. I feel like there is one crazy Swanson poster about to lose her mind that can’t understand some people are actually happy in S Arlington.

I'm not the person you're referring to, we're not a Swanson family. I have no issue with people liking South Arlington, nor do I judge it as lacking. But it's a special kind of racist to choose to move into a diverse neighborhood and then want to bus some of the minority kids out of the local schools to "improve" them.

Not at all. I would be saddened to see any children zoned away from our most successful, and well blended schools. I am concerned about schools like Barcrioft and would have no issue being zoned to those schools if it helped shift those demographics in a meaningful way.
Walking is wonderful, but there are numerous studies telling us not to concentrate poverty, and that it harms all students.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone else feel that this thread gets particularly insane in the evening after everyone starts draining cheap boxes of wine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else feel that this thread gets particularly insane in the evening after everyone starts draining cheap boxes of wine?

NP -- I've really enjoyed reading this "enlightening" thread

--new APS parent, future Swanson parent of a "walker"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else feel that this thread gets particularly insane in the evening after everyone starts draining cheap boxes of wine?

NP -- I've really enjoyed reading this "enlightening" thread

--new APS parent, future Swanson parent of a "walker"

Walking is racist.