APS middle school boundary process

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

I refer you to the county’s affordable housing policies. It’s “liberal values” on steroids that led to this mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

I refer you to the county’s affordable housing policies. It’s “liberal values” on steroids that led to this mess.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

Ah, so you can say everyone else should bus around while being very comfortable that you won't have to. Convenient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

Most people in Arlington have different ideals and aren't really interested in your ideals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

Ok, so where should your kids' friends be bused? And who are you trying to trade them with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

Ok, so where should your kids' friends be bused? And who are you trying to trade them with?

No need. It’s a good blend.

[Anonymous]

Is the RG plan available?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

On the surface, yes, except you sound awfully angry about it. If you're living your ideals, why do you want other people's children to be placed on buses so that they can make your school less diverse for your kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

On the surface, yes, except you sound awfully angry about it. If you're living your ideals, why do you want other people's children to be placed on buses so that they can make your school less diverse for your kids?

Nope. Just embarrassed and assumed of our community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

On the surface, yes, except you sound awfully angry about it. If you're living your ideals, why do you want other people's children to be placed on buses so that they can make your school less diverse for your kids?

Nope. Just embarrassed and assumed of our community.

Your indignant self-righteousness is definitely an embarrassment to the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

On the surface, yes, except you sound awfully angry about it. If you're living your ideals, why do you want other people's children to be placed on buses so that they can make your school less diverse for your kids?

Nope. Just embarrassed and assumed of our community.

So let me get this straight. You tout your embracing of diversity; call others racist because they might simply value being close to school, but you're the one who rants and raves about being owed more affluent, white, you name it, people in your children's school to make it less diverse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

On the surface, yes, except you sound awfully angry about it. If you're living your ideals, why do you want other people's children to be placed on buses so that they can make your school less diverse for your kids?

Nope. Just embarrassed and assumed of our community.

So let me get this straight. You tout your embracing of diversity; call others racist because they might simply value being close to school, but you're the one who rants and raves about being owed more affluent, white, you name it, people in your children's school to make it less diverse?

Nope. My child’s school is pretty perfect as it is, thanks.
But walking to school is a nice to have.
Balanced demographics is a need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But there's a lot of data to support the idea that if your kid is smart enough to do well on the standardized tests, they'd likely do so at any of the schools in Arlington. If they've grown up in a stable household and started reading at any early age, the school itself wouldn't dramatically shift the arc of their scores.

Some folks say "Yorktown & Wakefield" as if Yorktown is the equivalent of TJ or Walt Whitman, and Wakefield is some violent inner-city school where half the senior class is flunking out. A lot of extremes on both sides, and I agree with a previous poster: this discussion doesn't really reflect the Arlington I live every day.

But there is research that says once the FARMS rate hits a certain point (something like 65 -70%), all children in the school are effected.

For anecdotal evidence, you could look at TC Williams in Alexandria. The SAT scores for white students are lower then for students at Wakefield, a school with a similar demographic. The kids from TC have likely gone through years of public school in Alexandria in schools with high FARMS rates.

It’s worse than that.
The data says above 45%

So any time we are having a school in this county that is over that thresh hold, especially when the overall county rate is in the 30’s, is a failure of the school board, the county board, and we as Arlingtonians.
We have all failed. This boundary process was a failure. This process made very clear to me what the real priorities of the county are. They are not inclusive, and they are not liberal.

So where do your kids currently go, and where do you think they should be bused to achieve this?

Hoffman Boston. We live our ideals.

You are such a white savior. You can't balance the schools just by busing affluent white kids into underperforming schools, you also need to bus some low income minority students to fill the seats those white kids left empty. Those minority families, the ones you think you're helping? They don't want your kind of help. They don't want their kids bused further away, in no small part because it will make their lives that much harder. But oh, you know better, you're so enlightened with your decision to buy "under" you to lift up the poor brown and black kids by virtue of your mere presence in the school. Their parents just aren't smart enough to know what's best for their own children, thank god they have you in the community to show them the way.

Do you even hear how awful you sound?