Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Justin will be fine. We are always more forgiving of men and I think people understand he’s not a sexual predator despite what Ryan Reynolds said and probably just acted weird to an insufferable Blake. Even people reading cursory headlines understand that this is a workplace dispute and even if they believe Blake, he’s gained half a million Instagram followers since the lawsuit. I don’t see Justin being canceled given his role behind the scenes and wayfarer’s ability to pump out good quality work that gets Oscar buzz.

It is insane how delusional some of the posters are about Blake, but I can’t take them seriously and I think they are just posting for giggles. Now that I know more about the background of her lifestyle brand, I realize it was always a grift with her. I don’t think she was ever popular with the public. She landed gossip girl but since then she’s just been sort of forced upon us, either through Ryan Reynolds or through self funding her dumb companies that keep failing.

I thought that back in 2015 when she was still mildly popular , someone saw potential in Blake like they did Gwyneth Paltrow and they were willing to invest in her and surround her with really good people for her lifestyle brand preserve. But the article that was just published about what a mess that company was, it was literally run out of her alcoholic brother’s apartment, he’ sexually harassed and had affairs with a few young girls who were unfortunate enough to work there. There was no business plan, there were no backers, it was just a really slapped together, poorly run company, that ran itself into the ground in a year.

Her drinks line and her hairline is the same. And first sign of trouble people are bailing. Target is out and won’t be restocking her lines. She’s SOL.

I agree with all of this. I also think Blake was and is likely mentally struggling on some level, and that’s part of what fueled this. Other than marrying well and GG, she’s never been successful at anything other than being beautiful, and she runs in circles with people who are incredibly talented. It must make her very insecure as I’m sure she’s aware her beauty is fading. IME beautiful women like her often get crazy when they start to age.

I don't follow her and don't buy brands like this and wouldn't buy hers. But isn't she raising these products in her lawsuit because she is tying the brand failure to the smear campaign? I'm not sure she is really using the money for these products to live on in her daily life. I think they have plenty otherwise through all the Marvel money etc? Didn't she get paid $3M to be in IEWU? I don't think she really needs them to survive, in the same way that I thought Baldoni needed a job going forward. (Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he can just live in Hawaii off his $50M from IEWU and be done with it all.)

Not sure if you guys can hear yourselves when you say stuff like "she's never been successful at anything other than being beautiful" and your digs at her "fading" beauty leading to craziness or talk about her "grift," but those are actually fairly sh!tty things to say about someone. Something she's being fairly successful at right now is weathering through the pain cave of the last several months and now coming out the other end to run Freedman into the ground with this lawsuit, for example. I think she is actually doing that pretty well tbh.

You’re really claiming I’m shi!!y? After posters like are laughing about driving an innocent man into bankruptcy? She started this, lets keep her eye on that.

To ignore how hypocritical you are for a moment, I don’t think anyone said she was desperate for money, but again, she lives around very successful, artistic people. She’s often commented how she wants to be more than just an actress, and I think everyone can admit she’s not considered a great actress. And so far, she’s failed at being more. Her worth has always been about her looks and obviously she knows those are fading and she has constantly expressed insecurity about it

She started this? She had legitimate SH complaints which she raised and he agreed to correct and not retaliate. And then he ran a smear. We just do not see this case the same way.

There is direct evidence to the contrary. Check out JB’s website. Your mind will be blown.

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

Wow. NAG on Reddit going nuts on a lively supporter who she says lies. Honestly the lively person sounds like this poster above

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

Wow. NAG on Reddit going nuts on a lively supporter who she says lies. Honestly the lively person sounds like this poster above

This is from NAG. She is livid!!

I wonder if Lauren lurks here too?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/s/rDfRlEjEvO

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

Wow. NAG on Reddit going nuts on a lively supporter who she says lies. Honestly the lively person sounds like this poster above

This is from NAG. She is livid!!

I wonder if Lauren lurks here too?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/s/rDfRlEjEvO

I don't disagree with NAG's criticism of that poster, but all the swearing and yelling comes off as a meltdown to me. It is not professional. If you are going to hold yourself out as a legal expert who can explain these issues to lay people, which she does, you are sometimes get harsh criticism. I think she needs to grow a thicker skin or get offline because you can't flip out like this every time someone is rude to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

Wow. NAG on Reddit going nuts on a lively supporter who she says lies. Honestly the lively person sounds like this poster above

This is from NAG. She is livid!!

I wonder if Lauren lurks here too?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/s/rDfRlEjEvO

I don't disagree with NAG's criticism of that poster, but all the swearing and yelling comes off as a meltdown to me. It is not professional. If you are going to hold yourself out as a legal expert who can explain these issues to lay people, which she does, you are sometimes get harsh criticism. I think she needs to grow a thicker skin or get offline because you can't flip out like this every time someone is rude to you.

Oh I totally disagree! She’s normally so professional but she is clearly pissed. Did you hear her? It wasn’t one post by ‘Lauren’. She had been doing it for months and LYING!!

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

Wow. NAG on Reddit going nuts on a lively supporter who she says lies. Honestly the lively person sounds like this poster above

It’s probably the same person.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly never expected Justin to get this far. When I first read the allegations, I figured he was totally done because it was truly David and Goliath. I was surprised that he had a billionaire backer.

I’m not a lawyer so won’t weigh in on the legal aspects, if BF did or did not do a horrible job or any of this could have been avoided. I am just really grateful that they were able to within about 10 days put up that website. It was really clear with a compelling narrative, outlined everything in such a way shot through all of her claims which is why we are here now with so many people backing Baldoni and with Blake, despite legal victories, suffering real PR backlash.

(But please BL supporters post some more about how Taylor is really friends with her in private LOL and Gigi too and about all the great movies Blake is going to do in the future and all the celeb friendships she has!)

Break and Ryan had a very specific image that got them as far as they did, it was really light, it wasn’t deep, it was really aspirational on the surface. They have four kids, but you never once heard them talk about the challenges of raising them, it was always we love the chaos! Blake actually said I have to be Disneyland for them all the time. So relatable right? They arent willing to mention they have an army of nannies, they just all figured it out and it was also crazy! Sometimes we get the grandparents to help out! It’s chaos! And marriage is always so fun and lighthearted. They were just not the celebrities that are going to get in trenches and be vulnerable with people and that is fine, but having a big scandal and a big crisis like this just will not help their brand because they don’t know how to deal with it.

They are just showing how fine they are by doing carpet events like always, locking down there, disabling comments on social media, and making jokes on SNL. They don’t know how to pivot. They are desperately trying to hold onto their brand and it’s just not going to work.

I am sure they will be fine financially and I am quite clear in five years from now we will have another Deadpool out with Ryan Reynolds limping through it at age 55. But their brand is absolutely damaged, Blakes more so.

Former PR here and I've said this from the beginning; you can argue their lawyers have been doing a great job, I'll even buy that, but their PR folks have either been totally asleep at the wheel or bullied into submission by their clients. I suspect the latter. I almost fell of my chair seeing that crap they pulled with SNL, it was just so incredibly tone deaf and ill advised. I would argue as celebrities their PR and image is as, if not more, important han any legal matter and its been an unmitigated disaster on that front. Someone is not "getting it" and that's clear by the mist recent "we won" and "we did this for women!" Narrative. People are.not.buying.it. I'm really not sure how they pull back from this on the PR front. PR lady Molly McPherson said at the very beginning, Ryan probably can (a bit) but its going to be nearly impossible for Blake. Ryan can at least come across as kind of funny? But Blake had always seemed like a nasty mean girl who gives a terrible interview and people in Hollywood appear to merely tolerate her, even before this. People dont like to see what looks like injustice and the Big Guy Goliath win so they're going to have to pivot, as you said. Or maybe they can pose on the beach with a sign saying, "suck it Balboner!" Because that seems more their style and humor but...I wouldn't advise that if they want to hold onto any positive image after this.

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Does Ryan own the rights to Deadpool? Otherwise, why would you put a 55 year old Ryan in that roll? His Q score is all-time low right now. He's simply not worth the risk or pay he'd want. This stink from this hoax isn't going away. It's obviously he cooked it up for his idiot wife.

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It’s funny. You are all so passionate about this, and most other folks aren’t even half paying attention. And care even less.

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Freedman to take BL’s depo later this month.

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Anonymous wrote:Does Ryan own the rights to Deadpool? Otherwise, why would you put a 55 year old Ryan in that roll? His Q score is all-time low right now. He's simply not worth the risk or pay he'd want. This stink from this hoax isn't going away. It's obviously he cooked it up for his idiot wife.

"Again, this is why no one likes baldoni people. So angry and weirdly hostile to people you don’t know. You’re constantly ranting about Reynolds. Why? Who cares? And you’re also out of touch. Lively is fighting back against the misogyny and in that she’s done okay given the scope of the problem. Baldoni has spent millions of Sarowitz's money and against women's organizations and has truly tanked his reputation as a male feminist forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Freedman to take BL’s depo later this month.

Can't wait for him to utterly destroy her.

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Anonymous wrote:Freedman to take BL’s depo later this month.

Can't wait for him to utterly destroy her.

He might. I also think this could massively backfire -- the expectation is that Lively is going to fall apart under questioning so if she doesn't... In any case, we won't see it. We'll see the transcript eventually, but if you are hoping to see video of Freedman questioning Lively, you won't.

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

Wow. NAG on Reddit going nuts on a lively supporter who she says lies. Honestly the lively person sounds like this poster above

This is from NAG. She is livid!!

I wonder if Lauren lurks here too?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/s/rDfRlEjEvO

I don't disagree with NAG's criticism of that poster, but all the swearing and yelling comes off as a meltdown to me. It is not professional. If you are going to hold yourself out as a legal expert who can explain these issues to lay people, which she does, you are sometimes get harsh criticism. I think she needs to grow a thicker skin or get offline because you can't flip out like this every time someone is rude to you.

Oh I totally disagree! She’s normally so professional but she is clearly pissed. Did you hear her? It wasn’t one post by ‘Lauren’. She had been doing it for months and LYING!!

I heard her. The cursing and shouting comes off crazy. She's a litigator, right? I would not be enthused to see my lawyer unhinged like this over some nasty, unfair criticism.

It would have been much more impressive if she'd dismantled the nasty poster's flimsy arguments in a calm, controlled way. This makes her look crazy, sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Does Ryan own the rights to Deadpool? Otherwise, why would you put a 55 year old Ryan in that roll? His Q score is all-time low right now. He's simply not worth the risk or pay he'd want. This stink from this hoax isn't going away. It's obviously he cooked it up for his idiot wife.

"Again, this is why no one likes baldoni people. So angry and weirdly hostile to people you don’t know. You’re constantly ranting about Reynolds. Why? Who cares? And you’re also out of touch. Lively is fighting back against the misogyny and in that she’s done okay given the scope of the problem. Baldoni has spent millions of Sarowitz's money and against women's organizations and has truly tanked his reputation as a male feminist forever.

No one cares. Pay attention. The days of throwing around words like misogyny and bullying people into submission so they don’t get canceled are over. No one’s buying that Blake is a victim or a hero for women. It’s sad really.