New forum recommendation

Anonymous
We should establish a new forum for people to solicit advice and brainstorm ideas about leaving the country. I feel like there is a lot of good info out there but it is difficult to get concrete guidance.
Anonymous
What would this forum be called?
Anonymous
Why wouldn’t this be in Travel?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t this be in Travel?


Moving permanently, getting work visas, etc. not temporary vacationing.
Anonymous
There is one on Reddit called AmeriExit or something stupid.
Anonymous
Why does this need its own topic? Everything that doesn't fit into a different forum comes here, to off topic. It's like me asking "why isn't there a forum for talking about Fourth of July celebrations?"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is one on Reddit called AmeriExit or something stupid.


Thank you!!!
Anonymous
You really want to do this? OK.

Travel. Don't stay in hotels. Don't eat in restaurants. Visit the schools your kids might go to.

Once you find one place, figure out how you will work there. nomad visas are good for a year or two. Not really practical. Working for a company located in another country isn't easy. See if the company you work for has overseas postings. If you are wealthy enough, buy your way to residency. Lots and lots of countries, including the US, give out residency for a certain level of investment.

Look at your life here. Are you going to be able to adapt to a life that is more difficult? Can you live without convenience foods? Are your kids going to complain because they don't have peanut butter, marshmallow fluff or Kraft mac and cheese? Can you adapt to an entirely new and differently frustrating bureaucracy? This are the things that caus epeople to hate living overseas.

Can you deal without your family for long-stretches of time? Will you be able to come back once a year and tell friends and family you are not traveling to see them this year?

It ain't easy. For the majority of those who fantasize about it, it will remain a fantasy. For the rest, the majority will move back to the US within a year or two.

Have fun
Anonymous
I've moved overseas multiple times. Being away from extended family for years at a time was one of the top 3 highlights.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've moved overseas multiple times. Being away from extended family for years at a time was one of the top 3 highlights.


That’s great for you. I grew up doing this and it wasn’t that fun, and I also lived in another country for two years in my early 20s. I want to live in the United States forever, despite the current political climate.

A whole forum dedicated to this topic (being a expat) seems a little bit like overkill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You really want to do this? OK.

Travel. Don't stay in hotels. Don't eat in restaurants. Visit the schools your kids might go to.

Once you find one place, figure out how you will work there. nomad visas are good for a year or two. Not really practical. Working for a company located in another country isn't easy. See if the company you work for has overseas postings. If you are wealthy enough, buy your way to residency. Lots and lots of countries, including the US, give out residency for a certain level of investment.

Look at your life here. Are you going to be able to adapt to a life that is more difficult? Can you live without convenience foods? Are your kids going to complain because they don't have peanut butter, marshmallow fluff or Kraft mac and cheese? Can you adapt to an entirely new and differently frustrating bureaucracy? This are the things that caus epeople to hate living overseas.

Can you deal without your family for long-stretches of time? Will you be able to come back once a year and tell friends and family you are not traveling to see them this year?

It ain't easy. For the majority of those who fantasize about it, it will remain a fantasy. For the rest, the majority will move back to the US within a year or two.

Have fun


This. Even with the political dumpster fire we have on our hands at the moment, people who leave the US often find they have jumped from the frying pan into the fire and can't wait to get back here -- no matter what issues pushed them (a good friend who is a POC's experience living in Norway comes to mind, although they are still there). Or even if they haven't jumped frying pan to fire, life proves just too hard to navigate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've moved overseas multiple times. Being away from extended family for years at a time was one of the top 3 highlights.


lol and sadly it's true
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why does this need its own topic? Everything that doesn't fit into a different forum comes here, to off topic. It's like me asking "why isn't there a forum for talking about Fourth of July celebrations?"


This is it, the Seinfeld forum of this website. Any grievances, advice, info you care to share.
Anonymous
Dear Lord. How many times do we need to tell you that "leaving the country" isn't happening for 99.99% of the bozos who wonder about it on DCUM?

I'm from a European country, living in the US on a series of visas and now green card. I've been through my fair share of immigration lawyers and I've had to deal with USCIS for years. It has cost more money than I ever thought possible.

The processes by which you can acquire a visa, or request citizenship through parentage or other means, are specific to each country and THEY ARE ALL VERY COMPLEX. Don't think the USA is an outlier for this. Every first world country, and even others, are very picky about who they let in. It stands to reason.

This is not something you brainstorm on a message board. This is something to request of an immigration lawyer. You can first contact the embassy of the country you're interested in, to get pointers, but ultimately for most cases, unless it's a tourist waiver or tourist visa, you will need specialized legal help.


Anonymous
Yeah, I have documents enabling to live/work in USA and Europe. I got my kids dual citizenships while preparing for this election, but I am not that eager to uproot our family. At the moment living in a blue state is pretty good, but if orange regime escalates I am glad to have a backup option. I would recommend first to move to a decent blue state like MA and only then looking further to Europe or what not. Canada might be an option soon, sadly, lol
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