Can someone explain RIF process?

[Anonymous]

If they don't get enough from fork deals, probationary employees, lower performers, etc., then they will move forward with RIFs? how does that work? who decides? what do they look at to decide who stays and leaves? how much time do we have?

[Anonymous]

Normal RIF process is complicated and takes time to implement. Somehow I don’t think this will be a normal RIF when it happens

[Anonymous]

If you’re a loser at your job or your job is a waste of money then

RIIIIIFFFFFFF

YOU’RE GONE!

[Anonymous]

Must be a full moon. Brings out idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Normal RIF process is complicated and takes time to implement. Somehow I don’t think this will be a normal RIF when it happens

agreed. this one feels completely different.

[Anonymous]

This outlines the process:
https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/reductions-in-force/

Fork never made sense to me because 8 months of pay is more generous than what everyone would get under the RIF formula.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Normal RIF process is complicated and takes time to implement. Somehow I don’t think this will be a normal RIF when it happens

They have to follow the law. They'll just keep getting sued until they follow the law.

[Anonymous]

The process is outlined below but they’ll do whatever they want.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/reductions-in-force/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Normal RIF process is complicated and takes time to implement. Somehow I don’t think this will be a normal RIF when it happens

They have to follow the law. They'll just keep getting sued until they follow the law.

True but it’s going to be really annoying for a while until the lawsuits correct things.

[Anonymous]

The RIP regs will give more retention credits for those who've been in federal service longer, so seniority almost always wins in general

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The RIP regs will give more retention credits for those who've been in federal service longer, so seniority almost always wins in general

But will senority matter much if they target specific parts of an agency to cut rather than doing an agency wide cut? Can they just say, hey, let's cut all of the training dept, RIF them all, couldn't they do this to get rid of a lot of people at one time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RIP regs will give more retention credits for those who've been in federal service longer, so seniority almost always wins in general

But will senority matter much if they target specific parts of an agency to cut rather than doing an agency wide cut? Can they just say, hey, let's cut all of the training dept, RIF them all, couldn't they do this to get rid of a lot of people at one time?

Those folks who got cut will have bumping rights in many cases. And that’s where things get complicated

[Anonymous]

then, the possibility is the division will be left with a few older folks, losing younger high performers. is that what the managers want? is government efficiency achieved?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:then, the possibility is the division will be left with a few older folks, losing younger high performers. is that what the managers want? is government efficiency achieved?

We got plenty of young low performers and older high performers. Age alone is not the only factor. And that’s how the process works. If you want older workers out, the Fork offer is as good as it gets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:then, the possibility is the division will be left with a few older folks, losing younger high performers. is that what the managers want? is government efficiency achieved?

We got plenty of young low performers and older high performers. Age alone is not the only factor. And that’s how the process works. If you want older workers out, the Fork offer is as good as it gets.

It’s not though. The older workers get more severance with a RIF due to more time in service and being older.