What happens if there's no Dept of Ed?

[Anonymous]

M*sk is coming after the Dept of Ed next. All of it is illegal. But so is shutting down USAID and that doesn't seem to be of concern to him. What would happen to our public schools? I'm not looking for a political fight, I legit am asking. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2025...ecutive-order-draft/

[Anonymous]

It's not illegal. Trump is in charge of it and has the authority. What can happen is that the necessary programs like FAFSA, Pell grants, etc. can be sent out to contractors or back to HEW/HHSwhere ED came from (HEW). Unnecessary programs (and there are many) return to the states. I was a high ranking officer there supervisong over 100. They could all be fired tomorrow .. all of them. The waste and bloat was unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

Well your response wasn't actually helpful or factual. Closing the Dept requires an act of Congress and a supermajority at that. It is illegal for the President to impound funds that Congress has appropriated. The employees are civil servants and have protections under the law, so firing them without cause is illegal.

My question is what happens to our public and charter schools in DC? And federal financial aid for college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well your response wasn't actually helpful or factual. Closing the Dept requires an act of Congress and a supermajority at that. It is illegal for the President to impound funds that Congress has appropriated. The employees are civil servants and have protections under the law, so firing them without cause is illegal.

My question is what happens to our public and charter schools in DC? And federal financial aid for college.

Ideally Congress would send the money to other departments to perform the same jobs. However, if they didn't, states and thus schools would lose the funds. The President can't close the agency because it was created by Congress, but what he will do is basically make it non-operational like putting folks on Administrative leave and then suggesting to congress to move the funding.

So write you Congressperson and Senators.

[Anonymous]

They contract out the programs that are deemed necesarry. Or they are sent back to HHS, or sent to the states, which is sensible because the state voters know best what they want for third-party financing and choice issues.

[Anonymous]

Probably civil rights matters go back to DoJ, where they originally were before DoEd.

Most of the rest probably goes back to HHS, which is where they started (HHS was called HEW before Ed was split out).

[Anonymous]

The states will have to run them, including paying for everything, on their own.

[Anonymous]

What about IDEA? It ensures every child receives an appropriate education, and I’m not certain the Dept of Justice or Labor is the best place to ensure students have access to the curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about IDEA? It ensures every child receives an appropriate education, and I’m not certain the Dept of Justice or Labor is the best place to ensure students have access to the curriculum.

This is exactly our worry. Even my teen IEP student has expressed this concern. He said he and his friends were discussing it at school today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not illegal. Trump is in charge of it and has the authority. What can happen is that the necessary programs like FAFSA, Pell grants, etc. can be sent out to contractors or back to HEW/HHSwhere ED came from (HEW). Unnecessary programs (and there are many) return to the states. I was a high ranking officer there supervisong over 100. They could all be fired tomorrow .. all of them. The waste and bloat was unbelievable.

You were supervising them, decided they were awful and didn’t do anything? That makes YOU the problem.

[Anonymous]

Things are so bad and the DofE seems to have been the impetus for the decades-long downturn. What could POSSIBLY be worse than what all these "experts" have done to our once-great school system anyway? I say, get rid of them all and let schools be locally designed and run.

[Anonymous]

The deep South states will remove references to evolution from their science textbooks and we can all sing "give me that old time religion" in our classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The deep South states will remove references to evolution from their science textbooks and we can all sing "give me that old time religion" in our classes.

Yup. The dumb will get dumber and be proud of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not illegal. Trump is in charge of it and has the authority. What can happen is that the necessary programs like FAFSA, Pell grants, etc. can be sent out to contractors or back to HEW/HHSwhere ED came from (HEW). Unnecessary programs (and there are many) return to the states. I was a high ranking officer there supervisong over 100. They could all be fired tomorrow .. all of them. The waste and bloat was unbelievable.

Not true. It is 100% illegal what he has done to USAID. The executive branch does not have the authority to shut down an agency that was created by an act of congress and funded by them. You are the reason our democracy is crumbling. Please move to another country, you obviously don’t live this one or understand how a democratic government works. We used to be a nation of laws. But you believe certain people are above the law. You suck and highly partisan, warped viewpoint is disgusting and unAmerican

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The states will have to run them, including paying for everything, on their own.

So state taxes will go up. Fed taxes will stay around the same.

Hmm. Wonderful. Thanks Trump!